RIP - B

[jarvitronics]

The prolific poster known as B (formerly Letter B and fourthousandholes) passed away on Feb 6th at his home in Wilkes-Barre, PA.

www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/citizensvoice/name/robert-shortz-obituary?id=42710159

We'll miss you, Bob.

-j

[JoJo]

Hey Jarv, thanks for starting this thread!

Bob (I guess his real name being identified doesn't matter anymore) sent me this message on February 3, 3 days before his passing:

Hi JoJo, My health is deteriorating. I could "go" at any time, though I am hanging on as best I can. Just wanted to let you know. Also having vision issues. If I disappear at NIR-PWR, it may be due to death or blindness. I'll keep you posted (I hope!)

I replied with a note that when I was on death's door, I visited the other side (true!) and it was more of a social gathering for lack of a better description. I of course said I will talk to you soon.. Ah well it was not meant to be.

I first met Bob when he came to visit his brother who lived in Portsmouth, NH which is just a 15 minute drive away from me or so, and he said hey want to meet? I said sure and so we and his brother met at a restaurant there. What probably many don't know is that Bob and his brother were identical twins. As often happens as time passes, identical twins don't look so "identical" anymore and yes it was the case with Bob and his brother. But you could see they had a close bond and also that way of annoying each other that only brothers can do, LOL.

I really enjoyed when Bob came to visit and was hoping for another one. Last time was I believe in 2018, we went out to a seafood place across the state line in Maine and Bob paid the tab, very generous! Bob was a highly intelligent guy, definitely on the right side of the curve. He also marched to the beat of his own drummer, and for me that is a big plus, those are my people. :-)

Anyway, I know Bob is now with his brother and is enjoying becoming acquainted with his new digs.

Miss you Buddy!

[ekauqodielak]

This makes me really sad.

I'm glad to know the twist that he had a twin brother, though.

Bye, B…

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Feb 13, 2023 21:01:26 GMT -5 JoJo said:

Hey Jarv, thanks for starting this thread!

Bob (I guess his real name being identified doesn't matter anymore) sent me this message on January 3, 3 days before his passing:

Hi JoJo, My health is deteriorating. I could "go" at any time, though I am hanging on as best I can. Just wanted to let you know. Also having vision issues. If I disappear at NIR-PWR, it may be due to death or blindness. I'll keep you posted (I hope!)

I replied with a note that when I was on death's door, I visited the other side (true!) and it was more of a social gathering for lack of a better description. I of course said I will talk to you soon.. Ah well it was not meant to be.

I first met Bob when he came to visit his brother who lived in Portsmouth, NH which is just a 15 minute drive away from me or so, and he said hey want to meet? I said sure and so we and his brother met at a restaurant there. What probably many don't know is that Bob and his brother were identical twins. As often happens as time passes, identical twins don't look so "identical" anymore and yes it was the case with Bob and his brother. But you could see they had a close bond and also that way of annoying each other that only brothers can do, LOL.

I really enjoyed when Bob came to visit and was hoping for another one. Last time was I believe in 2018, we went out to a seafood place across the state line in Maine and Bob paid the tab, very generous! Bob was a highly intelligent guy, definitely on the right side of the curve. He also marched to the beat of his own drummer, and for me that is a big plus, those are my people. :-)

Anyway, I know Bob is now with his brother and is enjoying becoming acquainted with his new digs.

Miss you Buddy!

I was worried about him. He hadn't responded to a FB message for over a week, and I feared the worst.

Bob was a good guy. His heart was in the right place.

Let it be, Letter B.

[ramone]

Wow, so sorry to hear.
I sent him a pm just recently - noticed he hadn't signed in as of late.
and now this news.
Very sad.
We'll miss you B!

[kvo]

I last heard from him in a DM on February 2.  He told me he was very sick, and essentially said goodbye.  I didn't wanna believe it, but by February 8, I knew in my gut it was true.  I stopped posting anything and held my breath.  

Only having been here a little over a year, but looking back over our posts and DMs, this particular part of this particular song seems appropriate.

And when our year has ended
And I have gone away
You'll often speak about me
And this is what you'll say
We sang in the sunshine
We laughed everyday
We sang in the sunshine
Then B went on his way

Had to leave you with a song, B.  You loved songs, after all. 

[joseph]

Aw man. I've been looking on the members online list to see if he was on. Sad to see such a great contributor won't be around to talk to anymore. It only seems like a couple of weeks since we last spoke.

I'll never get to know what he had to say about my Muhammad Ali revelation the other day. One of the last things I remember B doing was reposting my reply to the next page about my mother dying and I spoke about her meeting Ali in the 70s. B passes away then out of nowhere - absolutely nowhere - it comes to me that Ali, Frazier and Foreman got replaced and I solved it dead quickly.

B's passing is a real loss for me. He was someone I could bounce ideas off. He's also the first person I think about telling whenever I'm experiencing finding out someone was replaced. My condolences to everyone who knew him personally.

[Red Lion]

Sad to hear ….Bob was great guy…

[mystick]

[forgottenone]

Surprising nobody spoke the truth about B not being the real B and being replaced a long time ago. Not sure how nobody could tell. It was so obvious.

Poor B. They replaced the old one with this douchebag one. Ranting about absolutely nothing all the way up to the end. Poor bastard. What a miserable life if he was real. Personally, I am glad the replacement will have nothing to say anymore. He was a cruel son of a bitch.

[JoJo]

I hope the below is satire..

Jun 7, 2023 5:30:57 GMT -5 forgottenone said:

Surprising nobody spoke the truth about B not being the real B and being replaced a long time ago. Not sure how nobody could tell. It was so obvious.

Poor B. They replaced the old one with this douchebag one. Ranting about absolutely nothing all the way up to the end. Poor bastard. What a miserable life if he was real. Personally, I am glad the replacement will have nothing to say anymore. He was a cruel son of a bitch.

[ramone]

Jun 7, 2023 5:30:57 GMT -5 forgottenone said:

Surprising nobody spoke the truth about B not being the real B and being replaced a long time ago. Not sure how nobody could tell. It was so obvious.

Poor B. They replaced the old one with this douchebag one. Ranting about absolutely nothing all the way up to the end. Poor bastard. What a miserable life if he was real. Personally, I am glad the replacement will have nothing to say anymore. He was a cruel son of a bitch.

All I can say is - huh?

[forgottenone]

Jun 7, 2023 18:21:08 GMT -5 JoJo said:

I hope the below is satire..

Satire is a genre of the visual, literary, and performing arts, usually in the form of fiction and less frequently non-fiction, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, often with the intent of exposing or shaming the perceived flaws of individuals, corporations, government, or society itself into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be humorous, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit to draw attention to both particular and wider issues in society.

A feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm —"in satire, irony is militant", according to literary critic Northrop Frye—[2] but parody, burlesque, exaggeration,[3] juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing. This "militant" irony or sarcasm often professes to approve of (or at least accept as natural) the very things the satirist wishes to question.

Satire is found in many artistic forms of expression, including internet memes, literature, plays, commentary, music, film and television shows, and media such as lyrics.

I am not much of a satire kind of guy. Figured you would already know that about me by now JoJo...if that's what you want me to call you for now.

What do you think it was like for B when he stood in front of God after his delusional exit??

Do you think he shat his pants not being saved and all that, getting into the esoteric so much, and not treating others the way he would of like to have been treated?

Must have been some scary shit. Do you think he is begging Father Abraham for a cool drink of water from the tip of his finger right now at this moment, begging to come back and tell the rest of you socks about how wrong he was??

Hopefully he found some friends in hell. Poor bastard.

I tried telling him about Jesus...but he laughed and mocked at me about it. I get that. Seems to happen a lot. He wasn't a very nice man from the ten plus years that I knew him.

Hopefully he isn't screaming too loud right now in hell but maybe Timmy could chime in and share what is happening to him right now since he loves talking about God while dabbling with the esoteric so much also... 

Or maybe Lucy can share with us what is happening to him right now since that is really her realm of expertise and she has seem to go quiet for so long...but you know you certainly can't expect Lucy to be honest about anything, so maybe she can give you some false hope about what is happening to him instead. 

Bla, Bla, Bla...

Carry on...

[jarvitronics]

Jun 8, 2023 7:33:38 GMT -5 forgottenone said:

Satire is a genre of the visual, literary, and performing arts, usually in the form of fiction and less frequently non-fiction, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, often with the intent of exposing or shaming the perceived flaws of individuals, corporations, government, or society itself into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be humorous, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit to draw attention to both particular and wider issues in society.

A feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm —"in satire, irony is militant", according to literary critic Northrop Frye—[2] but parody, burlesque, exaggeration,[3] juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing. This "militant" irony or sarcasm often professes to approve of (or at least accept as natural) the very things the satirist wishes to question.

Satire is found in many artistic forms of expression, including internet memes, literature, plays, commentary, music, film and television shows, and media such as lyrics.

I am not much of a satire kind of guy. Figured you would already know that about me by now JoJo...if that's what you want me to call you for now.

What do you think it was like for B when he stood in front of God after his delusional exit??

Do you think he shat his pants not being saved and all that, getting into the esoteric so much, and not treating others the way he would of like to have been treated?

Must have been some scary shit. Do you think he is begging Father Abraham for a cool drink of water from the tip of his finger right now at this moment, begging to come back and tell the rest of you socks about how wrong he was??

Hopefully he found some friends in hell. Poor bastard.

I tried telling him about Jesus...but he laughed and mocked at me about it. I get that. Seems to happen a lot. He wasn't a very nice man from the ten plus years that I knew him.

Hopefully he isn't screaming too loud right now in hell but maybe Timmy could chime in and share what is happening to him right now since he loves talking about God while dabbling with the esoteric so much also... 

Or maybe Lucy can share with us what is happening to him right now since that is really her realm of expertise and she has seem to go quiet for so long...but you know you certainly can't expect Lucy to be honest about anything, so maybe she can give you some false hope about what is happening to him instead. 

Bla, Bla, Bla...

Carry on...

What an ugly thing to say.

-j

[superman]

Jun 8, 2023 7:33:38 GMT -5 forgottenone said:

Jun 7, 2023 18:21:08 GMT -5 JoJo said:

I hope the below is satire..

Satire is a genre of the visual, literary, and performing arts, usually in the form of fiction and less frequently non-fiction, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, often with the intent of exposing or shaming the perceived flaws of individuals, corporations, government, or society itself into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be humorous, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit to draw attention to both particular and wider issues in society.

A feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm —"in satire, irony is militant", according to literary critic Northrop Frye—[2] but parody, burlesque, exaggeration,[3] juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing. This "militant" irony or sarcasm often professes to approve of (or at least accept as natural) the very things the satirist wishes to question.

Satire is found in many artistic forms of expression, including internet memes, literature, plays, commentary, music, film and television shows, and media such as lyrics.

I am not much of a satire kind of guy. Figured you would already know that about me by now JoJo...if that's what you want me to call you for now.

What do you think it was like for B when he stood in front of God after his delusional exit??

Do you think he shat his pants not being saved and all that, getting into the esoteric so much, and not treating others the way he would of like to have been treated?

Must have been some scary shit. Do you think he is begging Father Abraham for a cool drink of water from the tip of his finger right now at this moment, begging to come back and tell the rest of you socks about how wrong he was??

Hopefully he found some friends in hell. Poor bastard.

I tried telling him about Jesus...but he laughed and mocked at me about it. I get that. Seems to happen a lot. He wasn't a very nice man from the ten plus years that I knew him.

Hopefully he isn't screaming too loud right now in hell but maybe Timmy could chime in and share what is happening to him right now since he loves talking about God while dabbling with the esoteric so much also... 

Or maybe Lucy can share with us what is happening to him right now since that is really her realm of expertise and she has seem to go quiet for so long...but you know you certainly can't expect Lucy to be honest about anything, so maybe she can give you some false hope about what is happening to him instead. 

Bla, Bla, Bla...

Carry on...

In Matt. 7:14 says few find that narrow path that leads to life, yet in Revelation 7 it states that there was a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and wearing the pure robes of salvation.

So at the end of a narrow road of salvation that only “a few” find, we see a “multitude” of saved people. So many saved people that no one could number them…
A contradiction? I don’t think so … I believe that just because someone didn’t find the road to life in THIS life… Well, it doesn’t mean that they just took the fast-track to “hell”.
Isaiah 52:1 speaks of the millennium age of teaching where the lost are finally shown the truth in a straightforward way… not the confused way that modern man has been teaching (or not teaching, as the case may be). Only AFTER this millennium will non-believers enter into the peaceful habitation. Only after every person has been taught (and are able to UNDERSTAND/FULLY COMPREHEND) about the Messiah. Those who have been taught after this period have no excuse when they are tested again upon the coming of satan’s season (Rev. 20:7). So I can see why there is a multitude of saved people (a number so great they cant be counted, remember) at the end of that narrow road.

And it’s not like these lost people are being given a second chance. It’s simply the fact that we live in a world so corrupt and confused that the lost NEVER HAD A REAL 1st CHANCE.

You know who probably isn’t in that multitude of saved people? People who rejoice at the thought of people they dislike going to hell. You’re better than that. You’ve got your armor on, but don’t let it harden your heart or leave you unable to muster some compassion for those who don’t get it. I’m not suggesting that you be a punk or pushover to people who mock and deride you, but be aware that you have the high ground and have a little benevolence for lost people … before you shake the dust off your feet and condemn those who live in this world where there is a direct pipeline between modern living and spiritual disbelief.

[JoJo]

I wish I had time to make a long convoluted post with multiple colors but I ya know.. have real world concerns in the real world I live in, so no time for that.

I miss having B here to moderate for sure. He was a real person who was not replaced by a clone or whatever nutty theory is promulgated here.

Forgottenone, whoever you are, please find another hobby, thanks.

I have a feeling I will be banning you soon.

[superman]

Jun 8, 2023 17:48:11 GMT -5 JoJo said:

I wish I had time to make a long convoluted post with multiple colors but I ya know.. have real world concerns in the real world I live in, so no time for that.

I miss having B here to moderate for sure. He was a real person who was not replaced by a clone or whatever nutty theory is promulgated here.

Forgottenone, whoever you are, please find another hobby, thanks.

I have a feeling I will be banning you soon.

Are YOU doing all right? Last time I hung around here for any prolonged length of time, you were having some pretty scary health issues.

[JoJo]

Jun 8, 2023 18:31:04 GMT -5 superman said:

Jun 8, 2023 17:48:11 GMT -5 JoJo said:

I wish I had time to make a long convoluted post with multiple colors but I ya know.. have real world concerns in the real world I live in, so no time for that.

I miss having B here to moderate for sure. He was a real person who was not replaced by a clone or whatever nutty theory is promulgated here.

Forgottenone, whoever you are, please find another hobby, thanks.

I have a feeling I will be banning you soon.

Are YOU doing all right? Last time I hung around here for any prolonged length of time, you were having some pretty scary health issues.

Yeah well Klaatu had a song with the lyrics "the only man who went to hell and came back alive"..

Maybe a bit of exaggeration, but it felt like that. If you haven't done "hard time" in a hospital, you have no idea what that's like. A few days rest after an operation? Nah that's a cake walk. I was in ICU for 1 and a half months, plus another two weeks. Had tubes literally coming out of every orifice. Try feeling like you can't breathe and they act like it's in your mind.. That was my life for two months.

I am doing well after two years, all things considered. I am fully part of the medical system now, something I have endeavored to avoid for almost 60 years. Oh well, thems the breaks.

I truly wish there was a hell, as the people who forced the "safe and effective" you know what on me and others should burn there for all eternity.

There is a life review, but if you think you did nothing wrong or were justified, then you will learn nothing. No one can force you to learn. The good news is there is karma...

[superman]

Two months?? I can't even imagine. And it's disheartening, for I too wish to avoid becoming part of the medical system.

[ramone]

Jun 8, 2023 17:48:11 GMT -5 JoJo said:

I wish I had time to make a long convoluted post with multiple colors but I ya know.. have real world concerns in the real world I live in, so no time for that.

I miss having B here to moderate for sure. He was a real person who was not replaced by a clone or whatever nutty theory is promulgated here.

Forgottenone, whoever you are, please find another hobby, thanks.

I have a feeling I will be banning you soon.

 I guess F one really doesn't like B.

Not exactly a classy way to express that tho IMO.

When asking a person about something like this - ya either get something concrete as to why they feel that way
or 'word salad' for a response.
Which will it be?

Who knows, maybe just dead air.

(the BWR - (B was replaced ) theory? wow)

[beatles1966]

I'm so sorry that B is gone. I feel awful about it. I don't know what else to say. This breaks my heart. He was always posting on here. I'm genuinely so sad over this.

[beatles1966]

Also, sorry to double post, but go fuck yourself, forgottenone . I miss when this forum was full of intelligent, clever people discussing PID, and not loons like you picking at the bones. B was one of those clever people.

Just ban this guy, has no post history save for posting in here about his holy roller bullshit.

[jarvitronics]

Jun 8, 2023 20:48:08 GMT -5 JoJo said:

Jun 8, 2023 18:31:04 GMT -5 superman said:

Are YOU doing all right? Last time I hung around here for any prolonged length of time, you were having some pretty scary health issues.

Yeah well Klaatu had a song with the lyrics "the only man who went to hell and came back alive"..

Maybe a bit of exaggeration, but it felt like that. If you haven't done "hard time" in a hospital, you have no idea what that's like. A few days rest after an operation? Nah that's a cake walk. I was in ICU for 1 and a half months, plus another two weeks. Had tubes literally coming out of every orifice. Try feeling like you can't breathe and they act like it's in your mind.. That was my life for two months.

I am doing well after two years, all things considered. I am fully part of the medical system now, something I have endeavored to avoid for almost 60 years. Oh well, thems the breaks.

I truly wish there was a hell, as the people who forced the "safe and effective" you know what on me and others should burn there for all eternity.

There is a life review, but if you think you did nothing wrong or were justified, then you will learn nothing. No one can force you to learn. The good news is there is karma...

Sorry to hear you went through that and are now stuck in the medweb. You deserve better.

-j

[JoJo]

Thanks Jarv, I really appreciate that.

I will say this, the many people that wrote cards and letters to me really did help my spirits. So, if someone you know is in the hospital, believe me they really appreciate every word!

The sort of amusing part was that my workplace did sorta know what I did in the organization, but they had no idea how much until I was gone. (one way to be appreciated, hah!) I found out how supportive my co-workers were, so there's that as a bit of a silver lining.

[forgottenone]

Jun 8, 2023 16:08:10 GMT -5 superman said:

Jun 8, 2023 7:33:38 GMT -5 forgottenone said:

In Matt. 7:14 says few find that narrow path that leads to life, yet in Revelation 7 it states that there was a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and wearing the pure robes of salvation.

So at the end of a narrow road of salvation that only “a few” find, we see a “multitude” of saved people. So many saved people that no one could number them…
A contradiction? I don’t think so … I believe that just because someone didn’t find the road to life in THIS life… Well, it doesn’t mean that they just took the fast-track to “hell”.
Isaiah 52:1 speaks of the millennium age of teaching where the lost are finally shown the truth in a straightforward way… not the confused way that modern man has been teaching (or not teaching, as the case may be). Only AFTER this millennium will non-believers enter into the peaceful habitation. Only after every person has been taught (and are able to UNDERSTAND/FULLY COMPREHEND) about the Messiah. Those who have been taught after this period have no excuse when they are tested again upon the coming of satan’s season (Rev. 20:7). So I can see why there is a multitude of saved people (a number so great they cant be counted, remember) at the end of that narrow road.

And it’s not like these lost people are being given a second chance. It’s simply the fact that we live in a world so corrupt and confused that the lost NEVER HAD A REAL 1st CHANCE.

You know who probably isn’t in that multitude of saved people? People who rejoice at the thought of people they dislike going to hell. You’re better than that. You’ve got your armor on, but don’t let it harden your heart or leave you unable to muster some compassion for those who don’t get it. I’m not suggesting that you be a punk or pushover to people who mock and deride you, but be aware that you have the high ground and have a little benevolence for lost people … before you shake the dust off your feet and condemn those who live in this world where there is a direct pipeline between modern living and spiritual disbelief.

"So at the end of a narrow road of salvation that only “a few” find, we see a “multitude” of saved people. So many saved people that no one could number them…"


What like Jason?? Go blow your smoke up someone else's ass. I don't listen to or take advice from hypocrites.


And it’s not like these lost people are being given a second chance. It’s simply the fact that we live in a world so corrupt and confused that the lost NEVER HAD A REAL 1st CHANCE.

It's a fake, staged, bullshit reality. Nothing more.

You’ve got your armor on, but don’t let it harden your heart or leave you unable to muster some compassion for those who don’t get it.

Fuck off you lying terrorist.

I don't have a fucking ounce of compassion for that lying scumbag terrorist sock called B.

Don't try to talk like your my friend, a voice of reason, or like you know a fucking thing about working with orphans and widows in distress hanging out on this scumbag terrorist site. You are no different from the rest of these fucking muppet socks.

Go fuck yourself with the rest of your bullshit rant hypocrite.

B was nothing more than a fucking full of shit terrorist just like the rest of you.

There wasn't a god damn thing real about him, just like the rest of the nonsense on this site.

Make sure you clean up the thread Lucy I mean JoJo to carry on with your illusion.

LMAO @ banning me.

I just came to piss on his grave in the event if he was real for being a terrorist to me and the C-PTSD as a result of what he did to me, or to really call a spade for a spade with the fact that he was never real to begin with which is the only truth there is.

So fuck off.