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Post by ipuffin on Apr 11, 2011 15:17:24 GMT -5
(After much consideration I have decided to post this here before publishing it widely.) The Beatles played a lovely prank. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is a brilliant parody of Lewis Carroll's Through The Looking Glass and Edgar Allan Poe's Gold Bug, complete with a treasure map and a hidden treasure. "X" marks the spot. Paul's heart is where the treasure is located. This is where you dig. -j ?
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 11, 2011 13:20:59 GMT -5
It's well-established that good old Philco was in AHDN, Jarv. Here's the source for that particular photo. Best, P(D) Heh. Just goes to show how little I know. Thanks for enlightening me, P(D). -j A pity HE wasn't enlightened. Genesis made the exact opposite journey to the Beatles. From high-art, sophisticated original and intelligent songs to going: "she seems to have an invisible touch YEAH - YEAH" to a stadium full of legacy-rapers. seems he finally realized it though :
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 11, 2011 12:35:48 GMT -5
thank you so much for that....that's so beautiful! ... how did I miss this guy? Not sure what the connection is, though, aside from this interesting story: In an incident that has never been fully recounted or explained, Moss was arrested]], tried, and convicted for the shooting murder of his wife and sentenced to a long prison term. (The above photograph was taken of Moss at the prison where he was incarcerated.) With the death of Blind Boy Fuller in 1941, his manager, J.B. Long, made efforts to secure Moss's release as a Fuller replacement, all to no avail until 1941, when a combination of Moss' own good behavior as a prisoner, the bribery of two parole boards, coupled with the entreaties of two outside sponsors (Long and Columbia Records) willing to assure his compliance with parole helped get him out of jail. J.B. Long finally effected his release to his custody with the understanding that Moss stay out of the State of Georgia for a decade.
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 11, 2011 12:00:03 GMT -5
No, You will find Royal Apples. That's the way we roll AM I VERY CLEAR? you mean THIS useless piece of junk? Dobrou chut'!
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 10, 2011 16:25:02 GMT -5
regarding my Barry Sadler side-point in the original post: found the video. at about 4:18 you can see this
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 10, 2011 15:50:00 GMT -5
" TK: Yes, I recall meeting McCartney very well. We first met in Detroit and shared a brief hello. Later, he called me to England, Apple bought me a plane ticket, he invited me to sing. We had lunch in London with Linda and Twiggy, Roger Moore and Peter Sellers - and then I went to the studio where Yoko and Ringo and everyone else was assembled. It was the session where it was over [Ringo walked out during White Album sessions]. I went back to New York empty-handed and wrote the song "Saint Paul" on the flight. later, of course, he will learn how to Live and let Die - - i.e. how to step into another man's character and make it his own. What does it matter to ya? when you've got a job to do, you gotta do it well You gotta give the other fellow Hell!
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 10, 2011 13:30:30 GMT -5
Meanwhile Back In Ireland There's A Man Who Looks Like Me
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 10, 2011 11:03:03 GMT -5
who else can you find in that class photo? see quite a few old classmates and teachers Well, THERE IS A NURSE Now, I went down to the beanery at half past twelve A-lookin’ around just to see myself I spotted a horse and a donkey, too I looked for a cow and I saw me a few They said, “Don’t ya tell Henry Don’t ya tell Henry Don’t ya tell Henry Apple’s got your fly”
Now, I went down to the pumphouse the other night A-lookin’ around, it was outa sight I looked high and low for that big ol’ tree I did go upstairs but I didn’t see nobody but me I said, “Don’t ya tell Henry Don’t ya tell Henry Don’t ya tell Henry Apple’s got your fly” ::)now, what kind of bi ol' tree is this? Under that apple suckling tree Oh yeah! Under that apple suckling tree Oh yeah! Underneath that tree There’s just gonna be you and me Underneath that apple suckling tree Oh yeah!
Now, who’s on the table, who’s to tell me? Oh yeah! Who’s on the table, who’s to tell me? Oh yeah! Who should I tell, oh, who should I tell? The forty-nine of you like bats out of hell Oh underneath that old apple suckling tree
Now, I've never seen an apple-sucking tree before but I would imagine it to looks kinda like this And that one could find quite a lot of rotten apples under it.
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 9, 2011 12:33:11 GMT -5
...right. in the meantime, anyone wishing to make this a Patrick McGoohan thread is welcome
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 9, 2011 11:48:29 GMT -5
Man and Dark Horse, Sergeanttarius Piper, aka Sgt Piper Nigrum. ...so is this piper taking us out to the sunlight...or into the cave? yes there are two paths you can go by but in the long run there's still time to change the road you're on...at least until 2012... ....by the way, I don' suppose it'll do us much good checking out how many of the authors on the Pepper cover were published by this particular piper... would it?
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 9, 2011 11:35:38 GMT -5
I always heard "so alone" but, golly me, bobdylan.com confirms yours! Well, I’m hittin’ it too hard My stones won’t take I get up in the mornin’ But it’s too early to wake First it’s hello, goodbye Then push and then crash But we’re all gonna make it At that million dollar bash Ooh, baby, ooh-ee Ooh, baby, ooh-ee It’s that million dollar bashI got my money, let's spend it UP! Right, let's head down to Bourbon Street! Bourbon Street lordy-town You better keep it sweet Put all your loving apples on your feet
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 9, 2011 0:32:20 GMT -5
Thats all well and good, but it's "Tug of War" that REALLY gives me the creeps.
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 9, 2011 0:04:31 GMT -5
E7 Am Tears of rage, tears of grief F C Why must I always be the thief? E7 Am Come to me now, you know we're so low F C7 Fmaj7 C And life is brief I always heard "so alone" but, golly me, bobdylan.com confirms yours! Well, I’m hittin’ it too hard My stones won’t take I get up in the mornin’ But it’s too early to wake First it’s hello, goodbye Then push and then crash But we’re all gonna make it At that million dollar bash Ooh, baby, ooh-ee Ooh, baby, ooh-ee It’s that million dollar bash
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 8, 2011 23:13:45 GMT -5
hmmm....lately James Corden seems to keep the company of characters who change their Actor and "regenerate" Allowing that Mike Love isn't there to spoil a masterpiece with his birthday! That was kind of a lame episode in an otherwise brilliant season. Now why was it lame? Why....was...it ......lame? ....there's something I'm missing here..... ...missing..... ! Karen Gillan.
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 8, 2011 20:03:50 GMT -5
Yeah, that picture of the Beatles with "crew cuts" was a big hit when it came out in the mid 1960s. It appeared when they were new on the scene (in the U.S.) and people wondered what they would look like without "all that hair". Somebody created that picture, and it was picked up in all the newspapers. hmm...I find it interesting that the "mop-topped" version has an autograph by George and the other one by Paul. Paul lost his hair? This is a really creepy image, they all look like something from "This is England" or "The Wall", especially Paul.
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 8, 2011 19:52:25 GMT -5
no need to apologize, You say you got a real solution Well, you know We'd all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We're doing what we can rather it's MY apology for not checking it thoroughly before posting! and time....sure, 2012 is at the door anyway so why bother? We've waited more than that for an interview.... ;D
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 8, 2011 16:37:11 GMT -5
Just noticed it's not really the full text online... will try and find a link...if not, some scans. I see an old TV version with Patrick McGoohan (later of "The prisoner" which he did with Lew Grade, the man who took over Northern Songs) somewhere but can't find a free one. R2, WE NEED YOU!
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 8, 2011 15:54:43 GMT -5
at 0:32 , the hair cuts They seem to have LOST THEIR HAIR
sauce?
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 8, 2011 15:39:50 GMT -5
If I may revive an old thread, I think the actual movie is irrelevant. The Original Basement Tapes cover from 1975 was a clear reference to Sgt Pepper. Also, the comparison between The Basement Tapes and the bigger Sgt Pepper (IE with Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields) is inevitable: both convey a feeling that can be best described as Psychedelic Nostalgia - in contrast to Hendrix-style futuristic psychedelia or Dylan's earlier "thin mercury sound". And, to anyone weak in Dylanology, what he basically did in the basement of Big Pink was...teach The Band to play! Before that, they were The Hawks, a no-nonsense rock n roll band who hardly heard of him, and for whom folk was kind of sissy. After the basement....History. The first Americana band. Now granted, Sgt Pepper is NOT the first "Brit-pop" album. The Kinks got there first. But it was certainly the EPITOME of it.
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 3, 2011 8:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 3, 2011 7:29:27 GMT -5
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 3, 2011 5:04:05 GMT -5
Also, If I may digress a bit from our hunt (which is done here a lot ANYWAY) I want to say something, which I may have hinted at in my post:
I know "It's none of my bloody business" But I still think that the Mona/Pete Best is the shadiest, dirtiest part about the Beatles History. I mean, forget Crowley. This is some fucked up shit. If it would happen to one of your friends, you would fucking RAGE.
And yet, the issue was never addressed in none of the lyrics or imagery. It is MISSING from the narrative.
Taken at face value, I am forced to deduct that the Beatles and their associates were all basically jerks I would want absolutely nothing to do with, certainly not before they were introduced to pot by Dylan. Interviews with Lennon seem to confirm this.
But in 1967, the WHOLE bunch of them had already taken LSD, their "cosmic consciousness" was open. What about conscious? Could they all really still not care? I find it hard to believe
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 2, 2011 10:56:45 GMT -5
BTW Guy in the middle is Darth Vader! Attachments:
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Post by ipuffin on Apr 2, 2011 10:29:22 GMT -5
I've been kind of waiting for it to surface somewhere but now I'm tired, irritated, and want to get it off my mind so I can focus on my own music: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serjeant_Musgrave%27s_DanceThe story just seems to co-relate with the Beatles' so much, that it's uncanny - not just with PID/PWR narratives, but also with the shady parts of the Beatles "canonized" history - for example, the whole Pete/Mona Best thing. The fact that there was ALREADY a "ghost" between them (the much-loved Sutcliffe). There are other, closer parallels, for example the Bargee character, and his relationship with the troops, reminds me very much of Beatles/Dylan. He even plays harmonica, for god's sake! But all that shrivels next the fact that IN THEIR GREAT SHOW they INTRODUCE BILLY WHO IS ACTUALLY DEAD. it almost puts credit to that dodgy "Vaseline-Skull" clue. also, as a bonus, we got the possible inspiration for the whole Ephgrave Thingy. Now, to clarify: I don't know what it actually MEANS, I don't know if it means Paul died. I think it could be something he saw on TV while on Acid and it went to the back of his mind. Maybe we are all missing the point and it all has more to do with the involvements of the "powers that be" in the Beatles lives and music by that point. And Speaking of powers that be: You probably noticed that the title is spelled here with a "J". I've found this in one forum: Concerning our spelling of Sergeant: "Serjeant" spelt with a "J" is peculiar to the British and New Zealand armies and is used in connection with those services only. The British army did not change its spelling to "Sergeant" with a "G" until November 1953. So, "20 years ago today" would be 1947. Why is it spelled with a G? Because I think that the album was also their reaction to a hit album at the time, one that some (wiki?) sources credit as being one of the first "concept albums". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ballad_of_the_Green_Berets.jpg (I'm 98% sure you can even see this album in a record store interview with some teenagers, in one of the post-Jesus-remark footage from the US). TO CONCLUDE I never SAW the play but I've read it, as well as some other works by this guy, and it is a very recommended reading beside being a possible clue. I haven't dug up any connection between Arden and the Beatles, but There are people here that are much better than me at this. If I'm right, I know you guys will find the links/pics. over and out
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