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Post by CoconutFudge on Mar 11, 2008 22:10:45 GMT -5
Tonight was Beatle night on American Idol. Few were good, the rest butchered some of my favorite songs. Usually, on the results show, they have a performance by those whose songs were featured. Do you think Ringo and Faul may be making an appearance tomorrow night at 9:00 ET?? I hope so. I won't be able to watch it until Thursday or Friday, but the TiVo at home is set just in case!
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Post by ramone on Mar 11, 2008 23:33:14 GMT -5
Tonight was Beatle night on American Idol. Few were good, the rest butchered some of my favorite songs. Usually, on the results show, they have a performance by those whose songs were featured. Do you think Ringo and Faul may be making an appearance tomorrow night at 9:00 ET?? I hope so. I won't be able to watch it until Thursday or Friday, but the TiVo at home is set just in case! I don't really watch American Midol. But I heard they were doing beatle songs so I listened to a few. I was thinking the same thing CF-some I liked, and some I thought were butchered. I actually said that word to myself when watching. (but maybe it was a bit too strong a criticism) Anyone else trying to do the beatles, other than the beatles is risky business. Well, at least in that setting. Even talents like Elton John have tried with varying success. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 12, 2008 20:18:18 GMT -5
Elton John actually didn't do too badly with LISWD...but he also was very close to John, so he wouldn't kill it. However, nominally talented people, esp on reality shows...attempting the music of Lennon/Mc Cartney...just seems like musical suicide...musical torture....for those who are Beatle fans... Then you have commercially wrought murder and butchering of Beatle songs like in the Luvs and Target TV ads, and in films like Sgt. Pepper movie...I can't say for Across Universe, as I didn't see it. But improper interpretation of a song can be as brutal as a poorly sung version of their songs. My sis is playing the results show as I'm typing and Ryan made the announcement, there will be more Lennon/Mc Cartney songs tormented.... Maybe Next week they will celebrate Sgt Pepper or Across the Universe....maybe PID/PWR clues... Something somewhere showing the world the revelation... Yeah right, on American Idol, what am I thinking?  Maybe the music of Bill... I liked a couple of the songs, but most of them were brutally hacked. |
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Post by jarvitronics on Mar 12, 2008 21:04:53 GMT -5
Elton John actually didn't do too badly with LISWD...but he also was very close to John, so he wouldn't kill it. However, nominally talented people, esp on reality shows...attempting the music of Lennon/Mc Cartney...just seems like musical suicide...musical torture....for those who are Beatle fans... Then you have commercially wrought murder and butchering of Beatle songs like in the Luvs and Target TV ads, and in films like Sgt. Pepper movie...I can't say for Across Universe, as I didn't see it. But improper interpretation of a song can be as brutal as a poorly sung version of their songs. My sis is playing the results show as I'm typing and Ryan made the announcement, there will be more Lennon/Mc Cartney songs tormented.... Maybe Next week they will celebrate Sgt Pepper or Across the Universe....maybe PID/PWR clues... Something somewhere showing the world the revelation... Yeah right, on American Idol, what am I thinking? Maybe the music of Bill... I liked a couple of the songs, but most of them were brutally hacked. How ironic, that these were all "butchered covers" heh. -j |
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Post by B on Mar 12, 2008 21:54:05 GMT -5
(groan) That was great!  |
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Post by CoconutFudge on Mar 12, 2008 22:08:38 GMT -5
I liked your pun, Jarv! ;D
No Faul or Ringo tonight. Shame.
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Post by MikeNL on Mar 12, 2008 22:37:13 GMT -5
you can watch 30 second clips of every performer on iTunes, if you don't live in US, go to the homepage of ithe Tunes store and scroll down, untill you can see; Change Store.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Mar 13, 2008 2:22:37 GMT -5
Ah, Beatle night... Well, it sure must've seemed like a good idea to the producers, but I'm afraid it turned out more like a Toot And A Snore!  You know, American Idol was created by Simon Cowell for the express purpose to help him find and sign the best new, upcoming talent. It would seem an ingenious way to make a ton money for himself... Of course, that's why votefortheworst is so important! ;D |
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Post by Girl on Mar 13, 2008 8:16:09 GMT -5
heheh...
And if you're feeling juvenile, you can always peruse the forums at americanidol.com...
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Post by CoconutFudge on Mar 13, 2008 10:27:29 GMT -5
I looove American Idol, I think it's a cool way for talented people who wait tables or change oil for a living to be able to have an opportunity that they probably otherwise wouldn't get. Things now are all about power families--it's so hard to go from a nothing to a something. I like to think that this is KIND OF a way of sticking it to the man.
That said, I don't looove the most brilliant songs being raped!
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Post by Girl on Mar 13, 2008 10:53:55 GMT -5
I hear that... I confess I was much more addicted before... Best part for me is the auditions. But the debates on the forums over there get pretty heated... especially in the finals. People get very emotional over their faves. Yes, of course I'm a member... more of a lurker, actually. |
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Post by ramone on Mar 13, 2008 17:53:12 GMT -5
I looove American Idol, I think it's a cool way for talented people who wait tables or change oil for a living to be able to have an opportunity that they probably otherwise wouldn't get. Things now are all about power families--it's so hard to go from a nothing to a something. I like to think that this is KIND OF a way of sticking it to the man. That said, I don't looove the most brilliant songs being raped! I appreciate those thoughts, and I think almost anyone would rather be making good money making some music. But, just the whole concept is weird. And the thought of 'it's hard to go from a nothing to a something' is telling. Shows how ingrained this is. This is a prevailing thought in this society. If you're not famous or don't have $ than how much can you be worth? The fact that they have tons of idol wannabees-no shortage- reveals how many might feel they need this idol status to be 'something'. If someone offered me alot of cash to record some songs, it'd be hard to turn down for sure. Most could use it. But it's the fervor with this stuff and general tide of thinking in society that shows what matters to people. A person can have symptoms that are really just revealing what's happening inside. A society (like ours) has symptoms that show it's 'health'. And it's not good. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 13, 2008 18:58:35 GMT -5
I looove American Idol, I think it's a cool way for talented people who wait tables or change oil for a living to be able to have an opportunity that they probably otherwise wouldn't get. Things now are all about power families--it's so hard to go from a nothing to a something. I like to think that this is KIND OF a way of sticking it to the man. That said, I don't looove the most brilliant songs being raped! I appreciate those thoughts, and I think almost anyone would rather be making good money making some music. But, just the whole concept is weird. And the thought of 'it's hard to go from a nothing to a something' is telling. Shows how ingrained this is. This is a prevailing thought in this society. If you're not famous or don't have $ than how much can you be worth? The fact that they have tons of idol wannabees-no shortage- reveals how many might feel they need this idol status to be 'something'. If someone offered me alot of cash to record some songs, it'd be hard to turn down for sure. Most could use it. But it's the fervor with this stuff and general tide of thinking in society that shows what matters to people. A person can have symptoms that are really just revealing what's happening inside. A society (like ours) has symptoms that show it's 'health'. And it's not good. Some very good points....who watches this show the most? Young people...and if they get the impression that the only way to make it in this world is to become a famous singer...and makes lots of money...And if you don't get picked as an "American Idol" contestant...you're no good, untalented and return to life as a farmer, a waitress, a mechanic, and nurse...what not... How many thousands of young people think that they can become famous? They make fools of themselves on tv trying out and what becomes of it? Some may make success, like William Hung...But who wants to go through life as an Idol Reject? Even if they make some money from it and get 15 minutes in the spotlight, is this what our culture values? That a person makes a fool of themselves for a brief moment of fame and possibly some money? Is this what life is meant to be? To become an "American Idol"? To be some singing sensation for 15 minutes. Think about all the thousands of people who spent hard earned money, borrowed, begged to get money to travel to these cities over the past how many seasons this show has been on the air? How many have lost their jobs taking the time off to travel to these tryouts only to be sent home? How many people have put all their heart and soul into this and be humiliated and devastated? How many just make fools of themselves? For what? How many of the past winners do we remember? How many have made it BIG. I do mean big on the broad scale? How many still have record deals? How many actually sell that many records? Fill concert halls? Jennifer Hudson was a fluke to be at the right place at the right time to be in Dreamgirls and end up with an Academy award. How many will that happen to again? This country places value on fame and fortune and having to perform to be considered a "success". How many people who reached the pinnacle of success are truly happy or healthy? How many? We see an image...an icon...for many an 'idol" that we have created in our minds or the media has created that we adopt into our little worlds. How much happiness can you have when you're dragged from radio station appearances to some other appearance and then to rehearsals, to video shoots, which requires alot of time spent in waiting for filming to take place. Being on a bus, in a plane, in a hotel room, away from people who really care and being shoved here and there by a system where producers are making the money...on these people... Yeah, the American dream for many people is this "idol". How many people go to the AI site to defend their favorites on blogs and forums? How many people spend ridiculous amounts of money voting for these strangers? How many people spend too much time talking about these people? Just seems like a big money making conglomerate for the likes of Cowell, Nigel Lithgoe and the other "Simon" Fuller. As someone once said or wrote "Much ado about nothing".... |
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Post by ramone on Mar 13, 2008 23:31:59 GMT -5
I hear that... I confess I was much more addicted before... Best part for me is the auditions. But the debates on the forums over there get pretty heated... especially in the finals. People get very emotional over their faves. Yes, of course I'm a member... more of a lurker, actually. (Ringirl says) I'm a murker |
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Post by CoconutFudge on Mar 13, 2008 23:47:54 GMT -5
Well, I like it. I think it's fun to watch and critique. Everything on TV is on TV to make money. LR, I think your argument could be applied to anything on TV, on the radio, in magazines, in books... so many things. I'm not going to stop watching things that I enjoy watching just because there are unpleasant means of motivation behind it. I'd be staring at a wall all day.
And success is different for every person, so maybe for some people, yeah, being a performer and making money doing it and then using the money to help provide a comfortable life for their families makes them happy. My dad overcame a lot of obstacles to get where he is today. He was dirt poor growing up, was a florist until my sister was eight and I was two, and then went to law school to provide a better life for his family. He is one of the most well-respected lawyers of this area. Maybe I'm cynical, maybe I'm idealistic, or maybe I've just been lucky, but I see nothing wrong with wanting to advance in life, be it through a television show that gives you your only shot or going to several extra years of school to get a career that makes you happy.
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Post by ramone on Mar 14, 2008 0:44:47 GMT -5
Well, I like it. I think it's fun to watch and critique. Everything on TV is on TV to make money. LR, I think your argument could be applied to anything on TV, on the radio, in magazines, in books... so many things. I'm not going to stop watching things that I enjoy watching just because there are unpleasant means of motivation behind it. I'd be staring at a wall all day. And success is different for every person, so maybe for some people, yeah, being a performer and making money doing it and then using the money to help provide a comfortable life for their families makes them happy. My dad overcame a lot of obstacles to get where he is today. He was dirt poor growing up, was a florist until my sister was eight and I was two, and then went to law school to provide a better life for his family. He is one of the most well-respected lawyers of this area. Maybe I'm cynical, maybe I'm idealistic, or maybe I've just been lucky, but I see nothing wrong with wanting to advance in life, be it through a television show that gives you your only shot or going to several extra years of school to get a career that makes you happy. Well, some of those songs were done in a way that made me cringe. Some others were good. I liked the guy that did 'she's a woman.' Alot of energy there. I think the problem with the idol thing is, as you mentioned- 'a nothing to a something'. I was a non-entity, NOW I'm an important entity (after recognition or winning Am. Idol) ''but I see nothing wrong with wanting to advance in life'' Different people have different definitions about what advance in life means. What success is. Many equate it only with money or fame. Other cultures might look at the us and see that's a prevailing attitude. Whereas their idea of advancing in life is very different. Your dad seems like a really great guy and hard worker. But, his goal, it seems, was to provide for his family, not gain fame and fortune. On idol, the goal IS fame and fortune. I understand that money is important in life. I could use a little more. But there are hordes of people trying to get on idol. It seems a sad thing in some respects-that maybe many just are that empty. People are not settled within themselves. And the symptoms manifest. Not to say that any of us are all set in that way. But, as time goes by, it seems the cavity inside gets bigger with many. And I guess this is one way more and more people try to fill it. get on idol, or ... Does this mean I'll never look at idol? I might tune in just to see what's happening. But it would probably be more about curiosity. The show makes me uncomfortable for different reasons. So I just don't gravitate towards it like maybe some other show. Does anybody else feel that way? |
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Post by Doc on Mar 14, 2008 4:30:23 GMT -5
I was a bit disappointed in "We Can Work It Out", the version was not on target, and he, who is normally good, was off the mark/
I was in a restaurant and couldn't hear the audio most of the time.
I may pull it up on itunes or something. It seemed like, from reading the titles on the closed caption in the restaurant, that most of the songs picked were pre 66.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 14, 2008 20:45:45 GMT -5
I think there were only three that did post 66, the Irish girl sang Come Together, one guy sang Across the Universe and the blonde played piano to Let It Be.
There's nothing wrong with bettering oneself, but what I was referring to, are the kids and teens who think that life is being an American Idol and not doing well in school to obsess over Idol....Many people are deluded with it and thinking that this will make them the overnight success. Not everything is in money and fame.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Mar 19, 2008 1:48:12 GMT -5
Well, evidently they thought the first Beatle night was such a smash, they had to do it again--and don't ask me why? In case you missed it, it was just more of the same... Gee, I can't wait for the Whitewash Album to come out! ;D
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 19, 2008 9:13:14 GMT -5
Well, evidently they thought the first Beatle night was such a smash, they had to do it again--and don't ask me why? In case you missed it, it was just more of the same... Gee, I can't wait for the Whitewash Album to come out! ;D I caught a bit of it and the Australian Dude attempted to sing A Day In the Life to a condensed 1:30 version....it went something like this: I read the News today oh boy The English Army had just won the war A crowd of people stood and stared They'd seen his face before I love to turn you on Woke up fell out of bed Dragged a comb across my head somebody spoke and I went into a dream Aaaaa I read the news today oh boy about a lucky man who made the grade and though the holes were rather small They had to count them all I love to turn you on.... Simon Cowel: That was hideous. The song was ghastly! Oh yeah, I can see the new Reality spin off of American Idol American Idol Replacements.... People who have replaced: Simon Cowell Paula Abdul Clay Aiken Fantasia Burrino William Hung All of this seasons' idiots who think they are the "NEXT BIG THING". |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Apr 6, 2010 22:12:09 GMT -5
OMG, as if it wasn't bad enough the first second time, they're doing it again!  |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Apr 16, 2010 18:40:17 GMT -5
I had the misfortune of channel surfing as I refuse to go through an entire season of this rubbish.
Much to my discomfort, of that which I did actually see, most of them attempted to sing "Featle" songs that is, what I call the latter day music during the Faul era.
OF the couple of songs from the "Beatlemania era"...ecchhhh.
It's a strange thing the songs from the latter days are more of an influence on the younger generation...as opposed to the era of the true Beatles when Paul was there.
Either way, this was not one of the finer seasons for "Idol" talent...what happened to the girls? In seasons past we had strong voices....and the girl who attempted "Across the Universe"....sounded more like Public Access of High School Musical Production than a real talent show.
Who are they going to kill next? The Stones?
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