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Post by JoJo on Jun 11, 2007 20:51:18 GMT -5
Anyone here besides myself that watches it? There was much talk and speculation about the outcome of the final broadcast, and once it aired, disagreement as to the meaning of the abrupt black screen as they sat there getting ready to order in the diner. (as Don't Stop Believing played on the jukebox)
Maybe this sounds odd, but I saw a parallel with the Beatle Mystery, and while The Sopranos is a fictional story, David Chase said something very familiar.. It's "all there", you don't have to wonder about the meaning of the final scene if you have been paying attention. (e.g. there's nothing you can see that isn't shown)
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Post by revolver on Jun 11, 2007 21:38:36 GMT -5
I've been watching it delayed on DVD, since I don't get HBO. From what I've read, it sounds like he was killed. The last camera shot was from Tony's perspective. It went black, meaning he was shot and that's the last thing he saw. I think its poetic that the last "hit" of the series would be from the victim's perspective and that the victim would be Tony.
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Post by mommybird on Jun 12, 2007 14:22:53 GMT -5
I don't get HBO either. I was very disappointed that I couldn't watch the last episode. What do you mean watching it on DVD ?
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Post by revolver on Jun 12, 2007 22:25:03 GMT -5
I just wait until the previous season comes out on DVD and then rent it. I'm doing the same with Lost. I'd rather watch the episodes in order and in high definition.
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Post by mommybird on Jun 13, 2007 14:55:08 GMT -5
That's not a bad idea. I should do the same thing !
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Post by revolver on Jun 16, 2007 19:34:13 GMT -5
Here's a pretty insightful analysis of the ending that supports the "he was whacked" theory. www.bobharris.com/content/view/1406/1/Interesting metaphor he uses around the middle: "This might veer into The Walrus Was Paul territory..."
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Post by JoJo on Jun 16, 2007 21:24:36 GMT -5
Wow, that was amazing, show us how it's done! Well, David Chase in the way he put together a collection of clues for those paying attention, but especially the blogger Bob Harris for his observations.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 17, 2007 0:26:07 GMT -5
Here's a pretty insightful analysis of the ending that supports the "he was whacked" theory. www.bobharris.com/content/view/1406/1/Interesting metaphor he uses around the middle: "This might veer into The Walrus Was Paul territory..." Very important the-media-is-rigged-including-us "clue" from this Mighty Wurlitzer show.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 17, 2007 10:07:28 GMT -5
Hah, we aren't the first ones to see the Beatle parallels, although this was written a bit in jest, and the writer has only a superficial understanding of the PID story.. LINKIt has to be a cosmic coincidence that the Sopranos ended at the same time that Paul McCartney issued his latest record. That's because, as everyone knows, it's Paul who's dead.
David Chase's last great flipped bird to his audience has everyone talking. What about the past conversations with Bobby about how you won't hear the last bullet coming? What about the guy going to the men's room? Was he going to get himself a gun a la Michael Corleone in the Godfather? What about all of the other people in the ice cream shop who wanted Tony dead?
We've been through this before, and it was just a much fun and as equally annoying.
It was 1969 when the Beatles issued their majestic "Abbey Road" album. The cover art showed the band walking across the street. To the uninitiated, it looked as if the band was walking across the street. To those who started figuring out the puzzle, however, there were deeper meanings to be discerned. Paul McCartney was dead. For weeks, the country was entranced as each new clue came forward. Each new bit produced some new revelation as the albums were combed through, played forward and backward (you could do that on a record player. Don't try it at home on a CD. Forget it with an iPod.) Each lyric was parsed to the nth degree. The conclusion was inescapable. How could we have missed it? The most popular Beatle, the cutest Beatle, was gone, and the band was sending us messages. That was a Paul look-alike substituting for the real Paul. Oh, the horror.
Student papers were written on the subject. It monopolized radio for weeks. Just imagine what it would be like today. Try to imagine CNN, Fox, MSNBC and the rest in the post-O.J. era going through the "evidence" with as thorough an analysis.
That last cut to black to finish the Sopranos and that last scene were nothing. Let's tote up a small portion of the "evidence" that Sir Paul is no longer with us and indeed was killed in a "car crash" following a recording session in 1966 (or 1964 - the legends vary). There are more than 300 "exhibits" in this case, so this is a small sampling to give you the idea.
On the cover of Abbey Road, the lads walking across the street are representing a funeral procession. Paul is barefoot, representing the corpse. (The without-shoes meme shows up again in the material accompanying "Magical Mystery Tour.) The license plate on the car read "28IF," meaning Paul would have been 28 if he had lived.
Sgt. Pepper is the mother lode of clues. There's the O.P.D. patch Paul is wearing - translated to "Officially Pronounced Dead." The name of the band and what looks like a bass guitar, Paul's instrument, are arranged flowers on top of what looks like a freshly dug grave. There are references to the Paul substitute, "Billy Shears," the time of the supposed accident, and many interpretations of the ways the boys are standing and facing. The lyrics of songs refer to a car accident.
On "The Beatles" (aka the White album), " Revolution #9" and "I'm So Tired" played backwards have words sounding like "Turn me on, dead man," and "Paul is dead." And on it goes through each of their later records and materials.
Contrasted with that, all Chase has given us are a) a throw-away line and b) an ice-cream store full of past characters. Unless...
Let's get real now. There are 86 hours of Sopranos shows, broken up across eight years. Is it possible that there are only two clues to Tony's fate? That's just not possible. It's time for everyone to start spinning those DVDs -- forwards, backwards, even slo-mo to look for hidden images.
I expect to see some student scholarship on this, with our astute young minds finding all the clues that Chase dropped over the years. I can't wait for the web sits devoted to it, finding the "truth" about Tony.
Then the cable nets can pick it up and have a field day. It might even go to #1 on Keith Olbermann's countdown. Let's listen closely to the new album supposedly put out by Sir Paul. Might be some clues there, too.
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Post by mommybird on Jun 19, 2007 9:02:35 GMT -5
The analogies comparing The Sopranos to PID are totally mind boggling ! I'm so sorry that I haven't been able to watch the last season of the show !
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Post by JoJo on Jun 19, 2007 18:36:03 GMT -5
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Post by CoconutFudge on Jun 21, 2007 22:56:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that! Ridiculous. I was watching the Daily Show last night and Jon Stewart made an interesting comment about the crime family parallel. Such a great guy.
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