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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 6, 2006 17:34:53 GMT -5
What, musically, do any or all of these songs have in common?
Love Me Do
Please Please Me
I Want to Hold Your Hand
She Loves You
From Me to You
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 6, 2006 19:35:59 GMT -5
John sang lead?
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Post by helterskelter on Jan 6, 2006 20:04:55 GMT -5
Didn't Paul sing lead on Love Me Do?
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Post by JoJo on Jan 6, 2006 21:34:12 GMT -5
I guess this is a "paging Doctor Robert" post. Paul sang lead on Love Me Do, yes. I can't help but notice that three of them were covered by the Pepperpots: PPM, IWTHYH, and SLY. Edit: In that vein, and released on the date of Oct 17, 1966, is an album as stated here: three songs are the Beatles backing Tony Sheridan (shown with †), the rest are by a group called the Swallows.Four of the five songs on your list were done by "The Swallows", whoever they are.. Blackbirds, Bluebirds, Wrens, Swallows...Getting to be like an aviary. |
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2006 3:22:01 GMT -5
I guess this is a "paging Doctor Robert" post. Paul sang lead on Love Me Do, yes. I can't help but notice that three of them were covered by the Pepperpots: PPM, IWTHYH, and SLY. Edit: In that vein, and released on the date of Oct 17, 1966, is an album as stated here: three songs are the Beatles backing Tony Sheridan (shown with †), the rest are by a group called the Swallows.Four of the five songs on your list were done by "The Swallows", whoever they are.. Blackbirds, Bluebirds, Wrens, Swallows...Getting to be like an aviary. Well, I've done my share of pidgeon-holing I guess. Birds sing. They can also figure into communications and courier uses. And they fly. Most of 'em. Cuz they got wings. They like to parade their feathers. They cooperate well iin large numbers, divisions, flocks, like armies. And they sing in birdy code to one another. Graceful, lovely creatures. Until you come to the chicken and the ostrich. And.....the turkey. |
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2006 3:28:35 GMT -5
What, musically, do any or all of these songs have in common? Love Me Do Please Please Me I Want to Hold Your Hand She Loves You From Me to You Hmm. It seems like they are all in G major............ |
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2006 3:43:01 GMT -5
What, musically, do any or all of these songs have in common? Love Me Do Please Please Me I Want to Hold Your Hand She Loves You From Me to You Hmm. It seems like they are all in G major............ No. Wrong. Please Please Me is in E major. "From Me to You" must be in C major, but I can't quite get it to "play in my head" at the moment. Were they all on the charts at the same time in 1964? |
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 7, 2006 8:37:32 GMT -5
Please Please Me is in E major. Definitely. How about something to do with cover versions like JoJo kinda mentioned? They're also the first five released and issued as singles by Parlaphone... Musically, i don't know. |
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 7, 2006 8:56:04 GMT -5
John and JPM sing together pretty much all the way through those songs.
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2006 10:50:28 GMT -5
Were they the first 5 tunes that JPM and Lennon co-published?
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 7, 2006 14:43:33 GMT -5
What about the beat?
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 7, 2006 14:46:54 GMT -5
Skiffle?
Or are you saying perhaps it's not Ringo?
Thumpy bass is a major feature too!
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 7, 2006 16:36:24 GMT -5
What about the cadence?
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 7, 2006 17:00:37 GMT -5
I guess you are eluding to a hypnotic-like rhythm. Correct?
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 7, 2006 17:10:26 GMT -5
Ok.
Care to fill in the blanks TI?
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Post by mysteryboy on Mar 9, 2006 19:55:29 GMT -5
They share the same time/metronome pattern.
Think of the hand claps in I want to hold your hand. You can apply that pattern to all of those songs. (4/4)
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 9, 2006 22:37:21 GMT -5
Good answer.
Which other early Bealtes hits are in 4/4 ? Are they as consistent in execution?
What about the Stones' "I Wanna Be Your Man"?
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 10, 2006 11:39:29 GMT -5
I'd really like to hear more from the musically inclined about the timekeeping on the 62-64 4/4 hits.
Here's a discussion Ifound on USENET about the mono and steroe versions of Can't Buy Me Love. Apparently George Martin recorded a session drummer for the stereo version of CBML whereas Ringo is on the mono mix:
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there is most definitely a noticeable difference in the quality
of the drumming between the mono and stereo mix of CBML. Check it out for
yourself. And guess which version is clearly superior? Bingo!! The stereo
version, of course. A simple A/B comparison of the two versions discloses
that the "timekeeping" on the stereo version is much more consistent than on
the mono version
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The difference is noticeable from the first "I'll buy you a diamond
ring, my friend..." onward. Compare the basic time keeping from that
point on. You'll notice it is unsteady, uneven, and poorly measured on
the mono version. On the stereo version, it is like clockwork...as
precise as a Swiss watch.
Even better than an A/B comparison is to listen to the mono version 5
or 6 times in a row non-stop so that your ears become accustomed to
the "beat" on that version....then play the stereo version just once.
The difference will be immediately noticeable.
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Post by beatlies on Mar 10, 2006 15:20:07 GMT -5
The first commercial on the February 1964 Ed Sulivan Show debut of The Beatles in the USA and Canada featured a close shot of a metal flashing pocket watch swinging back and forth hypnotically while the deep voiced announcer said in monotone regular meter to the hypno-disc pendulum "PAIN TORMENT ANXIETY PAIN ....." repeating those words in hypno-voice throughout the commerical, that was for the Germanic-Swiss drug company BAYER aspirin .....
The music and Beatles and their haircuts were giving North American parents profitiable headaches, the Swiss Banks and US/British/West German governments were about to unleash a flood of drugs upon their children, also courtesy of the Beatles shills and "former" Hitlerite Nazi-linked corporations like Bayer.
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 10, 2006 15:42:06 GMT -5
That is just wild. I'd love to see that and maybe post it here for the musicologists to analyze. Has anyone seriously looked into the possibility of a drum track or other fakery having been used in the Sullivan shows? The first commercial on the February 1964 Ed Sulivan Show debut of The Beatles in the USA and Canada featured a close shot of a metal flashing pocket watch swinging back and forth hypnotically while the deep voiced announcer said in monotone regular meter to the hypno-disc pendulum "PAIN TORMENT ANXIETY PAIN ....." repeating those words in hypno-voice throughout the commerical, that was for the German drug company BAYER aspirin ....." |
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Post by beatlies on Mar 10, 2006 15:48:32 GMT -5
About fakery --I saw the complete show with commericals in a theater and I noticed the cameras and stage set-up seemed aranged to hide the lower part of JPM's legs and his feet, maybe because of his short stature. Also, there were noticeably few shots of John Lennon, a lot of JPM who sang lead, or sit it looked and sounded, on every song. There were far fewer shots of John than of JPM, Ringo and George, as if they were avoiding him. Clearly, it would seem to the viewers that JPM was the standout and leader of The Beatles.
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 20, 2006 21:29:49 GMT -5
What about the tempo? Are the sheet music for these songs avilable online?
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