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Post by JoJo on Apr 14, 2005 20:24:01 GMT -5
A few stills from "Even Better Than the Real Thing". Perhaps a minority opinion, but anyway, what were they trying to say here exactly?? (thanks Valis for pointing this out..)
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Post by revolver on Apr 14, 2005 21:28:36 GMT -5
Can't quite make out the middle still. I see a cross-fade between someone's face and some letters - SI5? The last one of "Paul" looks like he's a from a wax museum. I haven't seen the video so I don't know the context.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 14, 2005 21:58:56 GMT -5
There really isn't any context in the sense that it belongs there, Bono sings the title of the song, and then these frames pop up. Better than the real thing implies what we are seeing is not, (the real thing) wouldn't it seem?
Looks like a wax face, but also like some care was taken to get the year old "Faux Paul" look down just right.
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Post by Doc on Apr 14, 2005 22:48:38 GMT -5
And, it looks like to me that Bono plus a little make-up there and you've got John Lennon. I presume that's the whole band done up as Beatles? That's their drummer coincidentally as Ringo, I guess? I am not clear on how the other two look.........
In the name of all you need is love......
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Post by -Wings- on Apr 15, 2005 1:05:33 GMT -5
Is the Paul/Faul stand-in the only one they do the close-up of?
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Post by Doc on Apr 15, 2005 3:15:57 GMT -5
www.u2arg.com/home/img/u2yiac.jpgAnd, I read somehere that there is ANOTHER version of this video (same tune) where the German look-alike group, the Dopplegangers (!), appear as U2.
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Post by xpt626 on Apr 15, 2005 3:23:31 GMT -5
www.u2arg.com/home/img/u2yiac.jpgAnd, I read somehere that there is ANOTHER version of this video (same tune) where the German look-alike group, the Dopplegangers (!), appear as U2. imitations of imitations of imitations....
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Post by JoJo on Apr 15, 2005 5:06:26 GMT -5
Is the Paul/Faul stand-in the only one they do the close-up of? Sorry I kinda missed pointing that out, that's part of the impact actually, just the Pepper group, the Bill lookalike, then the group again. No Pepper in the rest of the video, and this all takes place in a a very few frames.
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Post by revolver on Apr 15, 2005 10:34:11 GMT -5
This seems like a definite message to me. First the song title. Then the only closeup is of the Paul character and it's not a closeup of the guy in the top photo, but a wax dummy! They couldn't be more clear about it.
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Post by Doc on Apr 15, 2005 13:58:28 GMT -5
imitations of imitations of imitations.... Yep, roger, I copy.
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Post by JoJo on Jan 1, 2006 12:36:37 GMT -5
Some more from the video: (by request) Bono has a series of masks over his face, frame by frame, here are some examples: Oswald: At the end of the series, he slides off a Manson mask: And the start:
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Post by beatlies on Jan 1, 2006 17:46:57 GMT -5
The Salvador Dali mask is an important clue. Dali was literally a fascist in his politics and was heavily involved with the Mia Farrow/ Fia Pharrow replacement crime, and that is related to the Manson false flag operations and the Beatles.
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Post by JoJo on Jan 1, 2006 18:14:57 GMT -5
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 1, 2006 18:26:33 GMT -5
Who are nos. 2 and 3? I see Jesus, James Dean, & Charlemagne for 1, 4, and 5.
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Post by Valis on Jan 1, 2006 18:42:48 GMT -5
2, 3 and 4 are the other U2 members The Edge, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr. Interesting that number 5 is Charlemagne, I hadn't figured that out yet.
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Post by JoJo on Jan 1, 2006 20:52:54 GMT -5
Watch the video if you wish.
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 2, 2006 4:39:24 GMT -5
You're sure no. 3 is a U2 member? It brings to mind vintage WWII photos, I'm thinking Eichmann or something.
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Post by Doc on Jan 2, 2006 6:10:55 GMT -5
One of them kinda looks like The Burger King.
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Post by Valis on Jan 2, 2006 7:18:23 GMT -5
It is absolutely Adam..and Larry is absolutley a good James Dean lookalike. In this mask scene you also have all 4 members in womens make up taken from the "One" video. Some other great things in this clip are the use of lookalikes for a.o. Prince, Sting, George Michael,Michael Jackson and Jimi Hendrix. The last 2 wearing their Sgt. uniforms. I'll have to find my notes again..I once watched the video frame by frame and it's loaded with subliminals. All Love Jan
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Post by Doc on Jan 2, 2006 16:51:22 GMT -5
It is absolutely Adam..and Larry is absolutley a good James Dean lookalike. In this mask scene you also have all 4 members in womens make up taken from the "One" video. Some other great things in this clip are the use of lookalikes for a.o. Prince, Sting, George Michael,Michael Jackson and Jimi Hendrix. The last 2 wearing their Sgt. uniforms. I'll have to find my notes again..I once watched the video frame by frame and it's loaded with subliminals. All Love Jan I wonder if Sir Paul might have been maybe an outside artistic advisor for this video? Oops, or is that, "inside artistic advisor"?
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Post by Doc on Jan 2, 2006 16:59:56 GMT -5
It's the bangs.
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Post by lili on Jan 3, 2006 10:23:46 GMT -5
Is this supposed to be Howard Hughes ? On TKIN, it was being discussed as to whether he also had been replaced ! I watched most of the video. There's someone wearing an Omega symbol ring in the very beginning. At one point, there are a bunch of words flashed in the background. Does anyone know what they say ? Later on, as they're showing scenes from what look like commercials, they show a man wearing a Beatle haircut & sunglasses. Any idea who that is ? That video is super weird !
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 3, 2006 13:55:17 GMT -5
That looks like Lee Harvey Oswald. And what does he have to do with U2 or Sgt Peppers or Charlemagne, Burger King and if that's supposed to be an image of Jesus, it's the worst one they could find...it looks more like Ray Stevens...
The wax figure of Faul is rather odd, giving him a round face and goofy looking eyes. Certainly doesn't look like the Faul on the back cover of Sgt. Pepper, or better known as the Red Pepper pic.
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Post by lili on Jan 3, 2006 14:11:50 GMT -5
You're right Rita. It is Lee Harvey Oswald. Hmmmm... I honestly wish I knew those answers too.
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Post by beatlies on Jan 3, 2006 17:42:59 GMT -5
"U2" is the name of the infamous American spy plane (shot down over Russia in the Frances Gary Powers incident that sabotaged an upcoming USA-Soviet Union pro-peace summit). The Anglo-Irish group U2, true to their smirking spy stealthy name, was probably formed as another brainwash-the-public rock band, which is exactly the role "Bono" has been playing for over a decade, helping make the IMF, World Bank, Wall Street, G-8, British government, and the illegitimate Bush government look concerned and caring.
LEE HARVEY OSWALD --okay, do some google research on this spy. Joined the US Marines at age 17. Highly talented and intelligent, and worked in the top-secret U2 PLANE-information-feeding radar bubble at the Pentagon base in Atsugi, Japan, top secret security clearance. Spoke Japanese and Russian. CIA sent him to live in the Soviet Union, supposedly as a tourist and communist sympathizer. Married Marina the daughter of a KGB colonel. Moved back to he USA with his Soviet wife, no problem, moved to of all places, Dallas, Texas where he became friends with the close friend of George Bush Sr., George De Morenschildt, a White Russian exile aristocrat and anti-communist (Nazi war criminal connections?), and worked at a military intelligence-contracts map- creating company. Lee Harvey Oswald also is proven to have had DOUBLES, several of them apparently, very active in the time frame leading up to the JFK assassination in Dallas.
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