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Post by Paul Bearer on Jan 16, 2008 20:17:39 GMT -5
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Post by B on Jan 16, 2008 20:23:18 GMT -5
Oh fer shore.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jan 16, 2008 20:28:45 GMT -5
Well I see Maacc is a long-standing member, having been around since 2005 and has a count of close to 90 posts. Odd thing for him to do this now.
Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 89 Location: continuing the ruse
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Post by B on Jan 16, 2008 20:50:51 GMT -5
Maybe he was desperate to liven things up over there. ;D
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Jude
Hard Day's Night
Acting Naturally
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Post by Jude on Jan 17, 2008 0:09:52 GMT -5
I used to wonder if Maacc was really Sir Paul. He was always dropping hints that he was....but now I know better. Anyone who has read a fair amount of interviews with Paul knows what his speech mannerisms are like, and his writing style is no different. Here are two examples of McCartney's writing: Life Magazine, 1971 / On the subject of the Beatles break up: "We were talking in the Apple offices. Ringo was there-- he agreed-- and maybe George wasn't there. So then John says, 'Anyway, I'm leaving the group.' He said, 'I want a divorce.' He literally said, 'I want a divorce.' And for the first time ever, he meant it. So that just hit everyone. All of us realized that this great thing that we'd been part of was no longer to be. This was the chop. That hits anyone, no matter what it is. It's like leaving school, and you love it then it hits like a chop. Or whatever your thing is. Our thing was the Beatles."
"The Beatle way of life was like a young kid entering the big world, entering it with friends and conquering it totally. And that was fantastic. An incredible experience. So when that idea really came that we should break up, I don't think any of us wanted to accept it. It was the end of the legend, even in our own minds. Marilyn Monroe gets to believe eventually that she's Marilyn Monroe. Now I feel that's how the Beatles got to be-- I'm just speaking for me. You were very much a Beatle in your own eyes, and to an extent we all still are. Thinking back, I think it was great what John said. And he told us, 'Look everything sort of comes together right.' And now I agree. We'd just made this album and it was to be called 'Get Back' and on the cover was a photograph showing us in exactly the same position as in the first album we'd made-- the whole lettering and the background was exactly reproduced. So John said, 'It's a perfect circle, you know.' I think what John did was tremendous from the point of view of 'Okay, so we are actually going to go our own ways.' You just can't be as tied together as we were for so long a period of time, unless you all live in the same house. From then onward it was to be a question of living your own life, which was the first real turn-on for me in a long time-- and this coincided with my meeting Linda. So early in 1970 I phoned John and told him I was leaving the Beatles too. He said, 'Good! That makes two of us who have accepted it mentally.'"
"I do think if it were just up to the four of us, if we were totally unencumbered, we would have had a dissolution-- I hate these heavy terms-- the day after John said he was leaving. We would have picked up our bags-- these are my shoes, that's my ball, that's your ball-- and gone. And I still maintain that's the only way, to actually go and do that, no matter what things are involved on a business level. But of course we aren't four fellows. We are part of a big business machine. Even though the Beatles have really stopped, the Beatle thing goes on-- repackaging the albums, putting tracks together in different forms, and the video coming in. So that's why I've had to sue in the courts to dissolve the Beatles, to do on a business level what we should have done on a four-fellows level. I feel it just has to come. We used to get asked at press conferences, 'What are you going to do when the bubble bursts?' When I talked to John just the other day, he said something about, 'Well, the bubble's going to burst.' And I said, 'It has burst. That's the point. That's why I've had to do this, why l had to apply to the court. You don't think I really enjoy doing that kind of stuff. I had to do it because the bubble has burst-- everywhere but on paper.' That's the only place we're tied now."
"You see, there was a partnership contract put together years ago to hold us together as a group for 10 years. Anything anybody wanted to do-- put out a record, anything-- he had to get the others' permission. Because of what we were then, none of us ever looked at it when we signed it. We signed it in '67 and discovered it last year. We discovered this contract that bound us for 10 years. So it's 'Oh gosh, Oh golly, Oh heck,' you know. 'Now, boys, can we tear it up, please?' But the trouble is, the other three have been advised not to tear it up. They've been advised that if they tear it up, there will be serious, bad consequences for them. The point, though, to me was that it began to look like a three-to-one vote, which is what in fact happened at a couple of business meetings. It was three to one. That's how Allen Klein got to be the manager of Apple, which I didn't want. But they didn't need my approval."Excerpt from Paul McCartney: Many Years From Now"The awkward thing about it all is you have to talk about drugs. If you don't you're being wildly dishonest. The good thing was that it was the first period of people taking drugs, and the first bloom is always the best really. So it was at a time when, having been to America, we started to expand our horizons. We'd met people like Dylan and we got into pot, like a lot of people from our generation. And I suppose in our way we thought this was a little more grown-up than perhaps the Scotch and Coke we'd been into before then. What makes people smoke cigarettes when they're fourteen? It's peer pressure. It makes them feel older, it makes them feel a bit groovier and that's quite valuable, at that age, to feel a bit groovier. And I suppose it was the same kind of thing in our case. So once pot was established as part of the curriculum you started to get a bit more surreal material coming from us, a bit more abstract stuff. It was just the first time I'd been exposed to all these new influences and had the time and inclination to bother with them all. I always have to give marijuana credit for that. It was Bob Dylan that turned us all on to pot in America and it opened a different kind of sensibility really; more like jazz musicians. The nearest we'd ever heard of this was like the old joke about the cleaner in the Hammersmith Odeon saying, 'That Ray Charles, he's a tight bastard. You know, he must pay his musicians nothing. There were two of them sharing a cigarette in the toilet last night.' It was somehow plugging into that sensibility. There was a sort of naughtiness about it and yet I knew I'd have to keep my shit very well together because I knew there was a very naughty end to it. Devastation and heroin and the real serious stuff was around the corner. But this was the mild end of it and for quite a number of years there, everyone was at the mild end of it. Instead of Scotch and Coke and ciggies it became pot and wine. In today's climate I hate to talk about drugs because it's just not the same. You have someone jumping on your head the minute you say anything, so I've taken to not trying to give my point of view unless someone really very much asks for it. Because I think the 'Just say no' mentality is so crazed. I saw a thing in a women's magazine the other day. 'He smokes cannabis, what am I to do? He laughs it off when I try to tell him, he says it's not really harmful...' Of course you're half hoping the advice will be, 'Well, you know it's not that harmful; if you love him, if you talk to him about it, tell him maybe he should keep it in the garden shed or something,' you know, a reasonable point of view. But of course it was, 'No, no, all drugs are bad. Librium's good, Valium's good. But cannabis, ooooh!' I hate that unreasoned attitude. I really can't believe it's thirty years since the sixties. I find it staggering. It's like the future to me, it's like it hasn't happened. I feel the sixties are about to arrive. And we're in some sort of time warp and it's still going to happen."Compare it to Maacc's: "I'd forgotten about you lot because I've been really busy for a while now. When I remembered this morning, I also remembered that I meant to let you in on my "secret" ages ago. You see, I toyed with you when I realised you were serious about this; serious despite the fact that a blind man can see what none of you are prepared to believe.
The bottom line (and I know you'll find this so hard to believe because I know what it's like to invest time in something you believe in and then have it taken away) is that I am, like it or not, Paul McCartney. I tried to give clues as I went along, but hardly anyone noticed, even though I made it clear who I was in my profile. I think someone once "wondered aloud" if there was a connection between Maacc and Macca...
What you all choose to do now is entirely up to you. I'm not going to sue, hassle or threaten you. Feel free to carry on posting clues, changing the back story to match the latest whims of sunking or whoever and you can discard everything I've said. As I said, it's up to you. Nothing changes the fact that I'm (still) alive, and have most definitely always been the same person. To quote myself (Ever Present Past) and the dig I had at the whole Paul is Dead thing on Memory Almost Full:
The things I think I did I do, I think I did The things I think I did When I was a kid...
Bye now.
PS Buy Memory Almost Full."Love how he used "you lot" in a sentence...as if that's all one need to sound British. Hey Maacc, next time throw in a few "cheeky gets", "governors" and "cheerios" for better effect, why don'cha?
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Post by fireman on Jan 17, 2008 0:58:02 GMT -5
Bollocks.
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Also, Jude, glad you pointed out the "you lot" sentence...
IMO, and taking it a little further, grammatically speaking that particular sentence just doesn't work. Should have been more like "the lot of you." I find it hard to believe that Sir Paul would write like that.
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And the plug for Memory is amusing...why would Sir Paul wait until now to hype it up when he could much more logically have done so at or near it's original release date?
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Post by iameye on Jan 17, 2008 6:19:33 GMT -5
He does call us the (you) lot, yes Main Entry: lot Pronunciation: \ˈlät\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hlot; akin to Old High German hlōz Date: before 12th century 1: an object used as a counter in determining a question by chance 2 a: the use of lots as a means of deciding something b: the resulting choice 3 a: something that comes to one upon whom a lot has fallen : share b: one's way of life or worldly fate : fortune 4 a: a portion of land b: a measured parcel of land having fixed boundaries and designated on a plot or survey c: a motion-picture studio and its adjoining property d: an establishment for the storage or sale of motor vehicles <a used car lot> 5 a: a number of units of an article, a single article, or a parcel of articles offered as one item (as in an auction sale) b: all the members of a present group, kind, or quantity —usually used with the<sampled the whole lot of desserts> 6 a: a number of associated persons : set <fell in with a rough lot> b: kind sort 7: a considerable quantity or extent <a lot of money> <lots of friends> synonyms see fate — all over the lot : covering a wide or varied range <received bids all over the lot> — a lot 1: to a considerable degree or extent <this is a lot nicer> 2: often frequently <runs a lot every day> 3: lots bunch, lot, caboodle any collection in its entirety; "she bought the whole caboodle" set, circle, band, lot an unofficial association of people or groups; "the smart set goes there"; group; grouping social group set, circle, band, lotparty; company jet sethorsy set; horsey set clique; coterie; ingroup; inner circle; pack; camp car pool (BZZZ) (Old Testament) nephew of Abraham; God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah but chose to spare Lot and his family who were told to flee without looking back at the destruction batch, deal, flock, good deal, great deal, hatful, heap, lot, mass, mess, mickle, mint, muckle, peck, pile, plenty, pot, quite a little, raft, sight, slew, spate, stack, tidy sum, wad, whole lot, whole slew [/color] (often followed by `of') a large number or amount or extent; "a batch of letters"; "a deal of trouble"; "a lot of money"; "he made a mint on the stock market"; "it must have cost plenty" measure; quantity; amountindefinite quantity large indefinite quantity; large indefinite amount batch, deal, flock, good deal, great deal, hatful, heap, lot, mass, mess, mickle, mint, muckle, peck, pile, plenty, pot, quite a little, raft, sight, slew, spate, stack, tidy sum, wad, whole lot, whole slew flood; inundation; deluge; torrent 7 fortune, destiny, fate, luck, lot, circumstances, portion your overall circumstances or condition in life (including everything that happens to you); "whatever my fortune may be"; "deserved a better fate"; "has a happy lot"; "the luck of the Irish"; "a victim of circumstances"; "success that was her portion"state condition fortune, destiny, fate, luck, lot, circumstances, portion failure misfortune; bad luck; tough luck; ill luck providence good fortune; good luck
B verb distribute, administer, mete out, deal, parcel out, lot, dispense, shell out, deal out, dish out, allot, dole out administer or bestow, as in small portions; "administer critical remarks to everyone present"; "dole out some money"; "shell out pocket money for the children"; "deal a blow to someone"
transfer give distribute, administer, mete out, deal, parcel out, lot, dispense, shell out, deal out, dish out, allot, dole out give; apply deal reallot assign; allot; portion lot divide into lots, as of land, for example change change integrity divide; split; split up; separate; dissever; carve up
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Post by B on Jan 17, 2008 10:49:56 GMT -5
Aye, but it's not Faul who has outed himself here; it's Paul. She maintains he was Paul all along. So this is someone from the MFH, me thinks.
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Jude
Hard Day's Night
Acting Naturally
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Post by Jude on Jan 17, 2008 14:21:27 GMT -5
Aye, but it's not Faul who has outed himself here; it's Paul. She maintains he was Paul all along. So this is someone from the MFH, me thinks. She? Who exactly do you suspect Maacc is, LetterB?
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Post by B on Jan 17, 2008 15:07:43 GMT -5
I don't know. I was just being naughty.
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Post by Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) on Jan 18, 2008 8:52:22 GMT -5
Aye, but it's not Faul who has outed himself here; it's Paul. She maintains he was Paul all along. So this is someone from the MFH, me thinks. To be totally honest, Letter B, I doubt it's anybody from the Macca Funhouse forum. Most of us don't post about that forum much anymore. Just the odd time when Sunking comes up with a new theory. And since he posts here now as GN, there's not as much reason to go to TKIN and see what's going on. I'm pretty much in the loop at MFH. I think somebody would've confided in me if they were posting as Macca. But few if any of us even have accounts there. In fact, the only people I know of who do have a TKIN account no longer post on these forums. So I doubt it's them. Just because somebody claimed to be the real Paul McCartney doesn't mean it's a PIAer from MFH. I understand your logic that if they claimed to be real real Paul it must be a PIAer, but none of us would go to those lengths to make our point. I think that poster was just playing games with the TKIN crowd and wasn't actually serious. But I am positive it wasn't one of the MFH members. Now... if you want an example of a REAL revelation on these forums... here it is! As I mentioned on MFH in a post I made. I have been slowly, but gradually outing myself as the Lead Representative of the ET Teenage Mimickers from Planet Mimicka. It's all good fun. No Extraterrestrial would visit Earth and live among Humans and post on message boards, right? But if, just if it were true. It would probably make the PID investigation look pretty minor in comparison... as it stands though, it remains only a fun possibility. Just I, Miss Vaggie having fun and spamming up the Off Topic boards with my quirky posts. Nothing more, nothing less. Or.................................................
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Post by austinmartindb7 on Jan 18, 2008 10:12:04 GMT -5
Hello. Ok, now i'll have to add the Beatles to my conspiracy list:
Beatles 9/11 Gulf of Tonkin Holocaust Pearl Harbor The Maine Hemp SS luisitannia SS suffox WMD's April Glasspie Kuwait General Patton JFK and Bobby MLK OK City did I forget any? the methodology is the same! Sylvie OBL
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Post by B on Jan 18, 2008 10:20:28 GMT -5
Interesting list, austinmartindb7. Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) wrote: "But if, just if it were true. It would probably make the PID investigation look pretty minor in comparison."Perhaps, but it seems to me that the PID investigation has everything to do with Extra-terrestrials living among humans and posting on message boards. (Haven't you noticed that about half the posts look as if they were posted by aliens?) As a matter of fact, I'm fairly certain that I heard Apollo's voice on a TV show about the Bermuda Triangle long before there ever were message boards.* They've been in our midst for a Long Long Long time. *No Christmas message from him this past year.
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Post by jerriwillmore on Jan 18, 2008 20:53:43 GMT -5
Hey Paul if you are reading this... You probably are the same guy, but why do you look so different? Why do your eyes look closer together? Why is your nose less round? Why do you appear taller, and what about Dr Truby's findings (remember him?) I like you by the way, comments?
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 18, 2008 22:12:40 GMT -5
OH nooooo!!!!
PIR - Paul is Reptilian!
Anyways I'm yet to see a photo of him or see/hear him use my name in a press statement...
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Post by Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) on Jan 19, 2008 8:46:02 GMT -5
Interesting list, austinmartindb7. Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) wrote: "But if, just if it were true. It would probably make the PID investigation look pretty minor in comparison."Perhaps, but it seems to me that the PID investigation has everything to do with Extra-terrestrials living among humans and posting on message boards. (Haven't you noticed that about half the posts look as if they were posted by aliens?) As a matter of fact, I'm fairly certain that I heard Apollo's voice on a TV show about the Bermuda Triangle long before there ever were message boards.* They've been in our midst for a Long Long Long time. *No Christmas message from him this past year. I see your point. A few members here could qualify as ET's. And I mean that in the nicest sense possible, of course. Personally, I would say anybody who exhibits intelligence, humor and a quirky sense of irony would qualify. Oh, and a knack for writing song parodies... but that's a given.
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Post by mommybird on Jan 21, 2008 16:15:35 GMT -5
I really doubt that it's Macca. I think that it's just someone having us on.
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Post by iameye on Jan 21, 2008 16:18:04 GMT -5
but such an old friend? weird reaction.
Weird. Fate?
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Post by mommybird on Jan 25, 2008 10:58:49 GMT -5
Who knows ?
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