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Post by jerriwillmore on Sept 2, 2005 14:56:09 GMT -5
That ought to clear things up.....
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Post by JoJo on Sept 2, 2005 15:09:50 GMT -5
That ought to clear things up..... Uhhh.. I think that was one of the first things we thought of.. To recap: Bill Shepherd wrote the majority of the songs. Was he just a songwriter or one of the performers? Your guess is as good as mine. Finding a list of the members has proven impossible Jerri, what does that tell you? And yes, emails have been sent to old time Mersey experts, won't mention any names, but trust me, the bases have been covered. None of them have heard of Billy and the Pepperpots, nada. And yet they put out some records in England, with reissues in the US. (but without the Pepperpots name, and sans any mention of Mr. Sheppherd or any other writers. If you want to try your luck, feel free.. |
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Post by Red Lion on Sept 3, 2005 5:13:02 GMT -5
Ahem .... not having been satisfied with their last response I decided to email the Pepperpots yet again in a last ditch effort to uncover the original bandmembers. Here is what I got back. Having received your eight hundred and fourth email, we have decided to comply with your request as we feel we have no other option.
As pictured above in no particular order Michael Bolton, William Shepherd, Liberace and Cher. Please do not send us any further emails as they will be disregarded. Thank you and good day.Hope this helps. PS- I think Cher is the good looking one  |
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 3, 2005 6:14:51 GMT -5
Having received your eight hundred and fourth email, we have decided to comply with your request as we feel we have no other option. Hah! Mr. Praline: (turning to camera) If you want to get anything done in this country you've got to complain 'til you're blue in the mouth. |
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 3, 2005 6:19:05 GMT -5
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Post by beatlies on Sept 3, 2005 18:28:32 GMT -5
We have Lennon: The Musical so why not "Buggs: The Musical" or "Billy and the Pepperpots the Musical" ?
Let's start a production of Billy and the Pepperpots: The Musical based on the philosophy and works of Bill Shepherd and Jimmy Fraser and then wait to hear from them.
Certainly we would get no lawsuit from Michael Jackson or EMI over being too close to "Sgt. Pepper" and "Billy Shears" would we do ya think?
This is limitless --we could also create a Pepperpots tribute band --Geoffrey and the Leperspots ........
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Post by JoJo on Sept 3, 2005 22:06:25 GMT -5
Funny, but it is an interesting question: If someone started a band called Billy and the Pepperpots, does someone file suit? And if so, who comes out and claims the original rights?
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Post by beatlies on Sept 10, 2005 0:44:38 GMT -5
My point is exactly that, JoJo --- the Pepperpots could be flushed out in the open by other indivduals using their music and personas. Where are Billy Shepherd and Jimmy Fraser today? Who are the other members? Who was their manager? They had two albums released in the UK and USA: so many bands only dream of such success. Billy "Pepper pre-Sgt. Pepper" Shepherd is apparently also a journalist and author (common front of MI5 and MI6) who wrote about the Beatles. So where is this guy? Can people just vanish without any historical traces?
Only in an Orwellian society where the state controls the media and academia while fooling the common people into believing it doesn't.
Which is apparently what we have. Thank Billy Shepherd and Jimmy Fraser for involuntarily exposing that.
What are the links between the Pepperpots and the Bonzo Dog Band? Are they both the same MI6 imposters cadre, groomed to replace the Beatles and other celebrity musicians for the drug promoting, culture-defining British "rock" establishment's orders?
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Post by pennylane on Sept 10, 2005 1:16:23 GMT -5
maybe.. they are hiding out in an MI6/MI5 secret underground lair on planet neptune with Paul, Doris, Sylvie, Larry King, Vivian Stanshill, Marianne Faithfull, Courtney Cox, and all the other VERY IMPORTANT celebrities they felt deemed to replace, cause I mean c'mon.. where would the world be today without the likes of Sylvie, Courtney or Doris  |
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Post by beatlies on Sept 10, 2005 1:30:30 GMT -5
A lot of people would say the same thing about James Paul McCartney, PennyLane, that he's nothing compared to a real musician like Dizzy Gillespie, or an Ella Fitzgerald or a Stephen Sondheim. Doris Day was maybe the number one Hollywood celebrity of the 1950s; a true talent in jazz, musicals and film. Sylvie Vartan was a Cold War trophy. How many of the culture definers were replaced? I'm beginning to think we've only gimpsed the tip of the iceberg and that's quite scary.
Why are there three or four Shirley Temples on the Sgt. Pepper cover? Did you know that in 1943 there were reports, that set off celebrations in the streets of Imperial Japan, that the American icon Shirley Temple had died? She made one or two movies every year from age six except for 1943, when there are none listed. There were kidnapping threats made against her. She was also the number one actor in Hollywood, like Doris Day, arguably maybe the world. This needs more investigating.
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Post by beatlies on Sept 10, 2005 1:50:01 GMT -5
Another question about the Pepperpots:
Did they do any live performances? Did they ever do a concert or were they thrown together supposedly just for studio work on Beatles imitation records?
"The Buggs" connotes "beetles" to trick people into buying a record thinking they were obtaining a Beatles album, but the band name of "Pepperpots" is weird and indicates they may have had goals other than the embarassing role of robotic Beatles imitation deceivers.
I wonder if a Monkee would speak any evil if questioned about Billy and the Pepperpots.
I also think there is some overlap between the Pepperpots and the Bonzo Dogs.
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Post by pennylane on Sept 10, 2005 3:24:59 GMT -5
To be perfectly blunt.. I don't give two hoots about Doris Day, Sylvie Vartan or Shirley Temple, they could've been replaced 1000 times over and I still wouldn't care, cause it has no bearing on what we are discussing here. This board is about Paul McCartney and the Beatles. All this other crap just clouds the issue. If you wanna talk shit like that, I know of a board you could go to. I'm sorry if I'm out of line, but I'm getting sick of this shit! And I don't know if it is even worth it anymore.
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Post by beatlies on Sept 10, 2005 4:26:51 GMT -5
You're the one who brought them up.
I think we should concentrate on locating the Pepperpots and their manager. With two albums they may have even had some fans.
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Post by pennylane on Sept 10, 2005 4:38:53 GMT -5
sorry I don't mean to take my aggression out on you. I had an unexpected visitor today, and it's totally turned my world inside out.
So I'm sorry.
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Post by beatlies on Sept 10, 2005 5:09:21 GMT -5
No problem, PennyLane, hope it works out for you. What's that Billy Shepherd song with all the visitors at the door where he says to "let 'em in"? Thinking more about this, I would now say that the Pepperpots mystery is a fantastic contradiction that could collapse so much of the facade that's been going on for 60 years ---how can anybody, scientist, historian, legal expert, explain the erasing of a group of people without any traces? The Beatles signature song should be the Twilight Zone theme ... |
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 10, 2005 8:35:15 GMT -5
A lot of people would say the same thing about James Paul McCartney, PennyLane, that he's nothing compared to a real musician like Dizzy Gillespie . Dizzy G. wasn't the leader of the world's most popular band & the top money-maker for an entire nation. There has never been anything even close to The Beatles 64-66 phenomenon. Not Elvis, Not Dizzy, Not Doris. That makes a big difference. |
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Post by lah' mah on Sept 10, 2005 18:50:04 GMT -5
 Found this Russion site selling Billy and the Pepperpots. MERSEYMANIABilly Pepper And The Pepperpots, 1964 They have a sample download from the album at the site. Source- monstr66.narod.ru/beatlesnovelty.htm |
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Post by jerriwillmore on Dec 31, 2005 17:03:45 GMT -5
Lets keep looking for the Pepperpots...
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 1, 2006 0:41:15 GMT -5
Ahem .... not having been satisfied with their last response I decided to email the Pepperpots yet again in a last ditch effort to uncover the original bandmembers. Here is what I got back. Having received your eight hundred and fourth email, we have decided to comply with your request as we feel we have no other option.
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As pictured above in no particular order Michael Bolton, William Shepherd, Liberace and Cher. Please do not send us any further emails as they will be disregarded. Thank you and good day.Hope this helps. PS- I think Cher is the good looking one THe names of the members of the Pepperpots are: left to right: Johnny Crawford, Mickey Dolenz, Moe Howard and William Shepherd (sitting) ;D |
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Post by eyesbleed on Jan 1, 2006 8:25:30 GMT -5
Found this Russion site selling Billy and the Pepperpots. MERSEYMANIABilly Pepper And The Pepperpots, 1964 They have a sample download from the album at the site. Source- monstr66.narod.ru/beatlesnovelty.htmThe cd I bought is from Estonia. It's a pretty good copy... doesn't sound like it was ripped from a record or anything like that. |
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Post by lili on Jan 3, 2006 10:57:47 GMT -5
RedLion, don't you just hate it when people are smug like that  |
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Post by mysteryboy on Jan 27, 2006 7:52:39 GMT -5
My point is exactly that, JoJo --- the Pepperpots could be flushed out in the open by other indivduals using their music and personas. Where are Billy Shepherd and Jimmy Fraser today? Who are the other members? Who was their manager? They had two albums released in the UK and USA: so many bands only dream of such success. Billy "Pepper pre-Sgt. Pepper" Shepherd is apparently also a journalist and author (common front of MI5 and MI6) who wrote about the Beatles. So where is this guy? Can people just vanish without any historical traces? Only in an Orwellian society where the state controls the media and academia while fooling the common people into believing it doesn't. Which is apparently what we have. Thank Billy Shepherd and Jimmy Fraser for involuntarily exposing that. What are the links between the Pepperpots and the Bonzo Dog Band? Are they both the same MI6 imposters cadre, groomed to replace the Beatles and other celebrity musicians for the drug promoting, culture-defining British "rock" establishment's orders? I could probably do this in short order. I don't care if they try to sue me. Pm me if anyone thinks it should be pursued. |
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Post by jerriwillmore on Jan 31, 2006 20:58:59 GMT -5
Please track them down thank you!
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