Looking for 2 Pete Townshend interviews...

[Mellow Yellow]

I am not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I was wondering if anyone could find the the interview where Townshend calls the beatles "flippin' lousy" and the interview where Townshend says he doesnt know McCartney even after all these years....

Oh and, does anyone know if (based upon the above comments) Townshend hated or didn't like the beatles?

Lets not forget he did right the song "Substitute"!

[lili]

Mello, I was thinking of that song the other day. Weird that you should bring it up. In the version that I have, it sounds like Roger Daltry is the singer. I didn't know that Townsend wrote it.

Substitute:
You think we look pretty good together
You think my shoes are made of leather

But I'm a substitute for another guy
I look pretty tall but my heels are high
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated, yeah

Substitute your lies for fact
I can see right through your plastic mac
I look all white, but my dad was black
My fine looking suit is really made out of sack

I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth
The north side of my town faced east, and the east was facing south
And now you dare to look me in the eye
Those crocodile tears are what you cry
It's a genuine problem, you won't try
To work it out at all you just pass it by, pass it by

Substitute me for him
Substitute my coke for gin
Substitute you for my mum
At least I'll get my washing done

From the wikipedia -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaty_Beaty_Big_and_Bouncy

Substitute: "'Substitute' was written as a spoof of '19th Nervous Breakdown'," wrote Townshend. "On the demo I sang with an affected Jagger-like accent which Kit obviously liked, as he suggested the song as a follow-up to 'Generation.' The stock, down-beat riff used in the verses I pinched from a record played to me in 'Blind Date,' a feature in Melody Maker (the song was 'Where Is My Girl' by Robb Storme and the Whispers). It was by a group who later wrote to thank me for saying nice things about their record in the feature. The article is set up so that pop stars hear other people's records without knowing who they are by. They say terrible things about their best mates' latest and it all makes the pop scene even snottier and more competitive. Great. The record I said nice things about wasn't a hit, despite an electrifying riff. I pinched it, we did it, you bought it." Released as Reaction 591001 on March 4, 1966, "Substitute" was soon withdrawn when producer Shel Talmy threatened an injunction; Talmy had produced the b-side "Circles" and did not want it released by The Who. The single was reissued a week later with the b-side retitled as "Instant Party" as a tribute to the same-named 1962 album by The Everly Brothers. However, Talmy's injunction still held, so this new pressing was also withdrawn. "Substitute" was eventually re-issued with the b-side "Waltz For A Pig," which was actually recorded by another artist.

'Substitute' eventually peaked at #5 in the UK while in the U.S. it was issued as Atco 45-6409 on April 2, 1966 in an edited version, one that replaced the line, "I look all white but my dad was black" with "I try going forward but my feet walk back." (This alternate was also issued by Polydor in South Africa.) The single did not chart in the U.S., nor did it chart when it was re-released by Atco as 45-6509 in August of 1967. Years later, it was re-released in the UK on October 7, 1976 where, a decade after its original release, it went to #7.

[Mellow Yellow]

Just to set the record straight.... I just finished reading all 9 pages of the "Faked?" topic and I noticed that KHAN told a fib... He said that I personally contacted him to thank him for opening my eyes to this "ridiculous hoax".... Truth is I don't even know how TO contact him, and I never even made an account of Maccafunhouse...... So unless there are 2 of me..... All I can say is...




KHAAAAAAAAN!!!!!

[JoJo]

Sounds familiar, but I don't know where it could be found at the moment.

Substitute was a little early to be about PWR.

Pete and Bill worked together on "Rockestra", so there was no ill will probably.

[fourthousandholes]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockestra

Rockestra is a form of rock with elements of stringed instruments included, such as violins. Some examples are "Overcome" by Live and "Collide" by Skillet.

It was also the name given to an assemblage of famous rock stars that were brought together by Paul McCartney for the recording of the last Wings album 1979's Back to the Egg. The supergroup which consisted of McCartney and his band, Wings plus John Paul Jones, David Gilmour, Ronnie Lane, John Bonham, Kenney Jones, Hank Marvin and Pete Townshend recorded the instrumental "Rockestra Theme" and a McCartney composition, "So Glad to See You Here". Paul McCartney revealed on a TV interview with VH1 in 2001 that Keith Moon was supposed to take part in Rockestra but died one month before the sessions took place.

Then, McCartney and Kurt Waldheim re-assembled Rockestra for a series of benefit concerts for the people of Cambodia, suffering from the reign of Pol Pot. This time, Rockestra comprised of McCartney and his band, Wings, plus John Paul Jones, Rockpile, John Bonham, Robert Plant, James Honeyman Scott and Pete Townshend. Hank Marvin was not available and David Gilmour had to decline in participating as he was with the rest of Pink Floyd in Los Angeles, California as they just finished recording The Wall and were in the midst of rehearsing for the upcoming concerts in support of The Wall to take place in February of 1980. They performed "Let It Be", "Lucille", and the instrumental "Rockestra Theme".


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockestra_Theme

One of Paul McCartney's harder-rocking songs, ths track was recorded on October 3rd, 1978, at Abbey Road Studios. Musicians who performed on this song (and 'So Glad To See You Here', an album track from Back To The Egg): Denny Laine, Laurence Juber, David Gilmour, Hank Marvin, Pete Townshend (guitars), Steve Holly, John Bonham, Kenney Jones (drums), Paul McCartney, John Paul Jones, Ronnie Lane, Bruce Thomas (bass guitars), Paul McCartney, Gary Brooker, John Paul Jones (pianos), Linda McCartney, Tony Ashton (keyboards), Speedy Acquaye, Tony Carr, Ray Cooper, Morris Pert (percussion), Howie Casey, Tony Dorsey, Steve Howard, Thaddeus Richard (horns).

Paul had asked Keith Moon to appear on the track and be part of Rockestra, but Moon died before the song was recorded. Kenney Jones, who replaced Moon on drums within The Who, appeared on the track in his stead.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockestra_Theme"

Names above a "Who's Who" of who's who in this Enterprise.
"Rockestra" = "Rocket Star"(s) - (And yes; it's corny.) See lyrics next post.

[fourthousandholes]

'So Glad To See You Here' (As opposed to: "Wish You Were Here")
(Faul)

Someone's got a home tonight.
Someone's got a road tonight.
Someone's got a wad, action will be red,
You you wanna worry?
Oo, you're gonna knock 'em dead.
Someone's got a show tonight.
Someone's gotta go tonight.
Someone's doing rhyme, someone turn your mind.
Someone to lift your eyes up
Leanin' toward the light.

So glad to see you here, so glad you could come. (Yeah!)
So glad to see you here. Carry on. Carry on.

Yeah, yeah!
Oh, we're going up tonight.
Well in time to make a flight.
The airplane's standing on the runway
Engine nervously waiting for something to bite.

Got to roll tonight.
You got to roll tonight.
Some have got it bad, some have got to do it,
You got it better, and there's nothing to it. No no no no.

So glad to see you here, so glad you could come. Yeah!
So glad to see you here. Carry on. Carry on!

* repeat first verse, then say: "Ya, oh no no no no, yeah." Repeat until end:


I'm not sure what all the significance of this song is, but you can be sure there's more to it than meets the eye.[/color]

[fourthousandholes]

I know how you all just love these outerspace connections. ;D
Has anyone noticed that at the end of "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" the guitars do this wuhwuhwuhwuh spaceship type noise?
Check out these ELO album titles. (And " 'ello" yourself, aliens.)

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000025DV/002-0621355-1168044?redirect=true&v=glance&n=5174

Out of the Blue[/b] ~ E.L.O.
Face the Music[/b] ~ E.L.O.
Time ~ E.L.O.
Discovery[/color] ~ E.L.O.
On the Third Day[/b] ~ E.L.O.
Eldorado ~ E.L.O.
Secret Messages ~ E.L.O.
Balance of Power ~ E.L.O.
Electric Light Orchestra (ELO) - Zoom Tour Live DVD ~ Electric Light Orchestra

[fourthousandholes]

Mello Yello:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Townshend

"By early 1966 he had become the band's spokesman, interviewed separate from the band
for the BBC television series A Whole Scene Going admitting that the band
used drugs and that he considered The Beatles' backing tracks "flippin' lousy."

us.imdb.com/title/tt0079400/

"And when you actually hear the backing tracks of The Beatles without their voices, it's pretty lousy."

[Doc]

fourthousandholes said:

Mello Yello:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Townshend

"By early 1966 he had become the band's spokesman, interviewed separate from the band
for the BBC television series A Whole Scene Going admitting that the band
used drugs and that he considered The Beatles' backing tracks "flippin' lousy."

us.imdb.com/title/tt0079400/

"And when you actually hear the backing tracks of The Beatles without their voices, it's pretty lousy."

A quote from the same page, only lower down:

One comes away from this movie with a genuine appreciation for the combination of creativity and humility that really made the Who unique among "superstar" rock bands. Can you imagine Led Zeppelin referring to their own work as crap in the middle of "The Song Remains The Same"? The Beatles created their own career-spanning retrospective 15 years later with "The Beatles Anthology", but that film, made 25 years after the band broke up, seems much more concerned with defining and cementing the band's place in history (especially the McCartney interview segments) than with presenting the band "warts and all".

[lili]

but that film, made 25 years after the band broke up, seems much more concerned with defining and cementing the band's place in history (especially the McCartney interview segments) than with presenting the band "warts and all

As Paul would say, " REALLY ? "

[Doc]

lili said:

but that film, made 25 years after the band broke up, seems much more concerned with defining and cementing the band's place in history (especially the McCartney interview segments) than with presenting the band "warts and all

As Paul would say, " REALLY ? "

And I wanted to say to the author of the article:

And, just what exactly is wrong with cementing the Beatle's place in history? Hello?


I think they've let some warts be seen. Good gosh, look at parts of the Let It Be movie-----now, there's a wart or two in there, wart's a plenty to go all -round.

No more warts needed.

I think the Anthology, etc., are great retrospectives.