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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 12:49:11 GMT -5
We like having you here FP. Even though you may not realize it you are a terrific advocate of PID. Your fades consistently make our points for us. Thanks RL. You're becoming another one of the PIDers I like. I don't see how my fades make points for you. If you see two different people, fine. But those two different people match up pretty darn well. You have to admit that. I haven't seen ONE fade matched up by the eyes, at the same angle, where the features don't line up. PennyLane, I'm REALLY sorry for derailing this thread.
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 30, 2004 12:57:10 GMT -5
PennyLane, I'm REALLY sorry for derailing this thread. That's right! Blame it all on FP! I would NEVER derail a thread
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 30, 2004 13:06:13 GMT -5
I haven't seen ONE fade matched up by the eyes, at the same angle, where the features don't line up. Since you dont see the differences in the face and head, try to get a feeling of the eyes looking back at you. Whose are they ,what is the tone? I've heard this helps some people make the distinction.
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 13:13:30 GMT -5
Since you dont see the differences in the face and head, try to get a feeling of the eyes looking back at you. Whose are they ,what is the tone? I've heard this helps some people make the distinction. Well, I see "Faul's" eyes having a "colder" feel... But it's the same face. It all matches up.
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 30, 2004 13:20:07 GMT -5
Well, I see "Faul's" eyes having a "colder" feel... But it's the same face. It all matches up. You're starting to get it. You will hear this especially from females, who are far more intuitive than the average male, about how the eyes looking back arent quite right after late 66. So who is looking back at you in all those pictures? Why does it feel colder with Faul? Keep plugging away FP its gonna click. You will view this in a different mind.
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 13:24:46 GMT -5
You're starting to get it. You will hear this especially from females, who are far more intuitive than the average male, about how the eyes looking back arent quite right after late 66. So who is looking back at you in all those pictures? Why does it feel colder with Faul? Keep plugging away FP its gonna click. You will view this in a different mind. Okay. I'm gonna keep making PIA fades. And they're gonna keep matching up. But seeing the "coldness" was probably just my brain telling me that I see what you're telling me to see...
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Post by DarkHorse on Dec 30, 2004 13:36:05 GMT -5
But seeing the "coldness" was probably just my brain telling me that I see what you're telling me to see... We tell you to see things all the time and you always see Faul and Paul as the same. Trust your instincts. You are right about the coldness in the eyes.
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 13:40:05 GMT -5
No. How can I detect "coldness" in the eyes? I'm looking at pixels on a screen! Not his true eyes. The pixels match up, and that's PIA.
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 30, 2004 13:51:53 GMT -5
But seeing the "coldness" was probably just my brain telling me that I see what you're telling me to see... Hmmm. What about all the times others have told you the head and face didnt match up? That didnt make you see any differences in Pauls/Fauls appearance. You would go and make another fade endeavoring to prove your point. And the "coldness", I didnt mention that, but that is what you felt when Faul was looking back at you. Why is there a cooler feeling with Faul? What does it mean to you if Paul was indeed replaced? Are there any consequences? Does it mean you cant like the Beatles or the current Paul anymore? Are you angered by being deceived? Certainly no one likes that. Is it better to continue the illusion or wake up from it? Ask yourself these questions FP. I think they are directly tied to yo your current point of observation. If you truly realize that you cant lose anything with this I think the facial features will loosen up a bit and you'll see the difference. We are all pulling for you FP.
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 14:48:59 GMT -5
Hmmm. What about all the times others have told you the head and face didn't match up? Uh, each time one of you said that, you never said how. And the neck doesn't have to match up, I've shown that. You want me to look close. Very close. Closer. Then all of a sudden, I shout out in a preacher's voice: "I can see the light!!" Then you want me to go to M4E, point at all of them and say: "You are all dirty sinners!!! Each one of you!! But don't worry, I shall show you all a the light!" *shows them a fade* "If you do not see a difference, you shall all burn in the fa-lames!!!" PID really is a religion.
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Post by DarkHorse on Dec 30, 2004 14:51:30 GMT -5
Uh, each time one of you said that, you never said how. And the neck doesn't have to match up, I've shown that. You want me to look close. Very close. Closer. Then all of a sudden, I shout out in a preacher's voice: "I can see the light!!" Then you want me to go to M4E, point at all of them and say: "You are all dirty sinners!!! Each one of you!! But don't worry, I shall show you all a the light!" *shows them a fade* "If you do not see a difference, you shall all burn in the fa-lames!!!" PID really is a religion. We are not you you think we are. Or how M4E perceives us.
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Post by jonna on Dec 30, 2004 14:56:31 GMT -5
PID really is a religion. you ever heard of excommunication?
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 30, 2004 15:12:28 GMT -5
PID really is a religion. If that were true, I wouldn't be here. You REALLY don't want to get me stated on "religion". I'm here coz this is the only place where I can investigate the REAL TRUE Beatles history, not the fake history that everybody else thinks they know. I've been run off from more than one Beatles forum. But that's fine.
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 15:21:52 GMT -5
We are not you you think we are. Uh... yes you are. That was only a joke, the way you're trying to "convert me", trying to get me to "see the light". And I know who you are, I'm here! I'm in the middle of all of this! I read every post here, I post, I get replies, I reply to my reply, I've been here for a quite a while, so I know you guys.
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Post by Girl on Dec 30, 2004 16:06:02 GMT -5
But seriously, FP... can you please explain how you do not see a difference in these two men? I'm asking nicely.
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 16:13:25 GMT -5
Why do you guys like that comparison so much? How do you know that the "Faul" pic wasn't doctored up to look more like Paul?
And Matchbox even made a fade where that pic matched up with one of EB's vintage pics.
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Post by Girl on Dec 30, 2004 16:19:32 GMT -5
You heard it here, folks...
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 16:24:18 GMT -5
You heard it here, folks... I'm trying to make a point. You think certian pics are doctored because they DO look like him, but when they don't that much, they're reliable.
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 30, 2004 16:26:35 GMT -5
And Matchbox even made a fade where that pic matched up with one of EB's vintage pics. And that is why we're not crazy about fades. You can make lots of people match up if ya work at it. (I'm NOT implying that was "worked on") Maybe that's why we don't post any PID fades.... I mean... what's the point? It's pointless & a waste of time. (but still entertaining ;D) That was my alltime favorite fade of y'alls btw. Even tho his fade get's 1st place with me,,, yers get 2nd & 3rd & 4th place! I put priority on what my eyes see over what some fade shows. There is no way in hell those are pics of the same guy. Trust yer eyes & instincts a little more.
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 30, 2004 16:31:48 GMT -5
I'm trying to make a point. You think certian pics are doctored because they DO look like him, but when they don't that much, they're reliable. Not neccessarily. There was a time when he looked pretty damn close to "right". Before that & after that time, it's much easier to tell the difference. Not all pics were doctored. That's rediculous, we know that. But Some of them are. Valis offered up some that are the most obvious alterations I've seen yet.
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Post by Girl on Dec 30, 2004 16:47:57 GMT -5
What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? The point is, doctored or not that pic looks nothing like Paul... you hinted that yourself by saying it doesn't match that much, and by the very statement about Faul being doctored to look like Paul, you are as much as admitting they are 2 different people... you're coming around, FP! You're getting it. Hang in there.
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 30, 2004 17:19:59 GMT -5
Hey FP, we're not really trying to "convert" ya. You've taken the first step yerself whether you realize it or not.
We're just tryin' to help out our favorite Closet PIDer!
No pressure.
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Post by Girl on Dec 30, 2004 17:40:50 GMT -5
Presactly!
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 30, 2004 17:41:55 GMT -5
What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? The point is, doctored or not that pic looks nothing like Paul... you hinted that yourself by saying it doesn't match that much, and by the very statement about Faul being doctored to look like Paul, you are as much as admitting they are 2 different people... you're coming around, FP! You're getting it. Hang in there. I was saying it in your point of view. Trying to get inside the mind of PID logic. I never said anyone was "doctored" to look like Paul.
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Post by DarkHorse on Dec 30, 2004 17:43:36 GMT -5
FP, this isn't the "dark side"....in fact, we're more like the rebellion. ;D
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