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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 12, 2006 23:40:03 GMT -5
I did a google search on "famous freemasons" and came up with this site. www.illuminati-news.com/famous-freemasons.htmPerhaps the link to these famous people on the cover of Sgt. Pepper are that most of them are part of the freemasons. If indeed the freemasons had something to do with the murder of JPM, I find it interesting that many of the people on the cover were listed on this site. I don't have a list on the people on the cover. If someone had a link or could list the people on the cover of Sgt. Pepper, I would like to see that. I thought it to be a interesting "tie that binds" these people together. Besides these people supposedly being favorites of the Beatles, WHY would such an ecclectic group of people be favorites to the Beatles? Hmmm
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Post by mysteryboy on Jan 13, 2006 2:01:16 GMT -5
I found this site with a good listing of the names and positions of the 'Pepper People'. Working with the mirrors got me thinking of the Free Masons for some reason. (angles?) Funny you should bring it up! Hope this helps! www.iamthebeatles.com/article1318.html
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 13, 2006 4:12:38 GMT -5
Ok, i quickly scanned the list LR and found the following;
W.C. Fields Oliver Hardy Tom Mix Oscar Wilde H.G. Wells Albert Einstein Aleister Crowley
So not too many, however many of the others may not have disclosed that they were masons, and i'm not sure that list is comprehensive.
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Post by beatlies on Jan 13, 2006 11:01:59 GMT -5
Albert Einstein and Karl Marx were not masons. Women cannot be masons. There may be mason-related clues on the cover of Sgt. Pepper, but it's the wrong route to think of masons as its main theme.
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 13, 2006 11:24:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I think I have to agree.
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Post by Doc on Jan 13, 2006 13:08:27 GMT -5
Albert Einstein and Karl Marx were not masons. Women cannot be masons. There may be mason-related clues on the cover of Sgt. Pepper, but it's the wrong route to think of masons as its main theme. There are Sisterhood prganizations like "The Eastern Star". They are related back to the 'fremaissons' and others, at least in structure and concept. I don't know if there are "networks of coordination" between the different male and female platforms or not. I tend to think that is possible, but that would be in the domain of secretiveness I suspect.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 13, 2006 19:24:04 GMT -5
There are Sisterhood prganizations like "The Eastern Star". ..of which Hillary Clinton is known to be a member.
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Post by lili on Jan 14, 2006 9:33:49 GMT -5
All very true. There are women's organizations that have been set up like the freemasons.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 15, 2006 1:34:45 GMT -5
The Eastern Star is the "sisterhood" to the freemasons. While other secret societies may not be freemasonry, they all work together. Let me share this site with you and you will see the connections with all of them. www.vaticanassassins.org/There is a left hand column with a list of different topics and names. Click "Kolvenbach" and you will see a chart. Along with freemasons are "Knights of Malta", Theosophy Society, Thule Society, etc. They are either occultic or part of the illuminati, and yes, celebrities are part of it. There is also a site that has a more comprehensive listing of freemasons. www.masonicinfo.com/famous.htmThese lists ought to turn your stomachs.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 15, 2006 23:15:08 GMT -5
I don't know what the significance of Tarzan on the Sgt. Pepper cover, but I did a google search and found this site that talked about the Johnny Weissmuller Tarzan films, being that of all Tarzans, JM was the one pictured. www.tarzanmovieguide.com/Tarzan Triumphs Tarzan battles the Nazis as they try to enslave the hidden city of Palandria. Jane has returned to London to be with her sick mother, but Boy manages to get captured. "Now Tarzan make war!" declares Tarzan before he begins to pick off the Germans one by one. Don't know if it was the fascination with Tarzan being the Apeman, or the actor. But Johnny was the one who created the famous Tarzan call. Johnny was born in Hungary and moved to the US. He was an Olympic Gold medalist in swimming, competing in the 1924 and 1928 Olympics. He died in 1984.
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Post by il ras on Jan 16, 2006 0:12:32 GMT -5
What if just some of the people on the cover are related (dunno how) and we connect them with a line on the cover, or just anagrammatize the initials of their names? Btw, is there a reson for some of them to be in b/w and others in colours?
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 16, 2006 7:45:47 GMT -5
Yes rita, the picture is of Johnny Weissmuller rather than Tarzan, although of course, he did play Tarzan.
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Post by lili on Jan 16, 2006 11:09:43 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be a hoot if the boys just found a warehouse full of these standups & decided to use them on the cover ? What if they really had no hidden meaning at all Or, if that is how it happened, but the meanings were found anyway ? As if the hand of fate played a large part in it all ?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 16, 2006 14:16:21 GMT -5
I like the idea that ilras presented...that maybe some of these figures have significance and are alligned in some occultic pattern. Maybe like a freemason compass and square, for example. Not saying that is the definitive answer, but perhaps it's laid there sideways, if not straightforward. Maybe even mirrored. Or maybe some of the characters' initials spell something out.
....Or maybe like lili said, it's an elaborate hoax......or maybe Yucko had tea leaves laid out and this was what her spiritual guide told her to tell John what to do.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
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Post by lili on Jan 17, 2006 11:54:07 GMT -5
Rita that is very true. As I stated before, that album cover always bothered me as a child. There was something sinister in it's layout. Children are so innocent. The way they see things is very different than the way that adults do. If I remember correctly, the elements that bothered me the most were the wax figures of the boys, the Marilyn stand-up with her gold dress on, the doll in the chair ( I didn't know that she was Shirley Temple ) & the flower guitar. Now if John was aiming for the youngest audience & the most innocent of minds... Maybe those four elements are the most crucial Honestly, I have no idea.
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 17, 2006 20:17:33 GMT -5
The "Shirley Temples" really bother me to this day, there just HAS to be a significance in her appearing numerous times.
"Children are so innocent"
Quite lili, eg. children often notice the paranormal when adults can't see anything.
As you may know, it's been suggested that imaginary friends may not just be inventions of a childs mind, but ghosts/people from other dimentions.
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Post by beatlies on Jan 17, 2006 22:58:43 GMT -5
See my comments in other threads on Shirley Temple.
She may have been killed in 1942-43, during WWII, and the government acted to replace her with an imposter so as to keep up American morale.
The hidden messages involving Shirley Temple, visible with a mirror, indicate she was killed in a Satanic ritual. There is a lot of overlap and common beliefs between Satanists, some occultists, and fascist/Nazi doctrines and leaders. Shirley Temple may have been targeted by an Axis fifth column active within the United States. There should also be more research into the wartime plane crash of Glenn Miller (he can be heard on "All You Need Is Love") and whether that was simply an "accident."
Hitler-Liverpool-Satanists-Nazis-MI6-Fifth Column Nazi Collaborators-Beatles-Liverpool-CIA --Just some connect the dots rambling .......
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Post by beatlies on Jan 17, 2006 23:05:35 GMT -5
Stephen Crane wrote a short story titled "The Open Boat" about four men in a lifeboat in the ocean ("fixing a hole in the ocean"?). One of them seems to disappear and the rest of the men continue to behave as if he is still with them.
The faces are probably there for different symbolic purposes. Some may be there largely because she or he helps to form a hidden picture.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 17, 2006 23:47:37 GMT -5
I was creeped out by the strange doll with the Rolling Stones shirt, and the bust of the statue that looked like Lerch from the Addams Family to me at that time, and some of the creepy faces, of people I didn't know. The thing about Shirley Temple, Beatlies struck me in his post about her being killed in the early 1940's. She was such a "musical" child, in her "adult" roles, she didn't sing, did she? I found this odd page about her religion. Here's the page www.adherents.com/people/pt/Shirley_Temple.htmlPart of what was disturbing was this part about her marriage to John Agar. "Proof of her viriginity had ben surgically removed during a pre-marital surgicial procedure performed by her doctor, ( note: the doctor's name was given.) 3 days prior to wedding. The article said this was a "routine" procedure. I've never heard of anything like this as being "routine". I don't know if this can help with any clue, but I thought it was so strange, that I shared it here.
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Post by beatlies on Jan 17, 2006 23:53:48 GMT -5
There are many strange things about "Shirley Temple"/ "Shirley Temple Black." I would suggest more research be done into the dovetailing of Nazi and occult plans and goals.
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 18, 2006 8:15:03 GMT -5
This certainly seems to be shaping up as more than just a co-incidence.
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Post by lili on Jan 18, 2006 9:40:19 GMT -5
That is disturbing alright. It's strange that he complained about her not being a virgin. It was Hollywood. Were there any virgins in Hollywood ( only kidding ). To me it sounds more like their wedding was part of some kind of occultic ritual. Her being a virgin must've been an intricate part of the ritual. If she wasn't a virgin, maybe it rendered the ritual null & void ! Just some more food for thought. Plastic Paul that is very true about young children. They are more open to the paranormal. They haven't been programmed to discount the strange & the unusual. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some imaginary friends are really dead relatives. They can even be occupants of their house, who lived there & died before the child's family moved in.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 21, 2006 22:43:59 GMT -5
Ask Sylvia Browne when she's on Montel. On that show when she's on, there are alot of parents who come on and talk about strange things happening in their children's bedrooms.
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Post by lili on Jan 23, 2006 9:23:00 GMT -5
You lost me, PP
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 23, 2006 10:13:30 GMT -5
Don't worry, a misunderstanding!
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