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Post by pennylane on Feb 20, 2006 7:33:31 GMT -5
from the sept 13th or whatever awards ceremony.
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Post by lili on Feb 20, 2006 12:35:37 GMT -5
That's a wonderful photo. Thanks so much for sharing it with us, Penny. That was taken shortly before Paul either died or disappeared ( according to what version of events you lean towards ). BTW, he's holding the award under his LEFT arm
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Post by noodles on Feb 20, 2006 14:49:58 GMT -5
Right arm. The picture's reversed. ;D
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Post by -Wings- on Feb 20, 2006 15:58:58 GMT -5
Yes, that's a great picture. Most of the Melody Maker Awards images we have are in black and white (and with Tom Jones leering at the camera). To recap: Paul McCartney - September 13th. Paul McCartney - Two months later. What the hell?
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Post by noodles on Feb 20, 2006 19:20:25 GMT -5
Yes, that's a great picture. Most of the Melody Maker Awards images we have are in black and white (and with Tom Jones leering at the camera). To recap: Paul McCartney - September 13th. Paul McCartney - Two months later. What the hell? He then morphs into this dude but ends up looking like this
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Post by revolver on Feb 20, 2006 22:07:39 GMT -5
He then morphs into this dude Uh, it's already been proven (by some PWNRers) that they were using a strange camera angle and outdoor lighting for that interview. That's why he looked so odd. In the other photos, it's the mustache or hair. If you're not a professional photographer or cinematographer, you're unqualified to debate it.
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Post by pennylane on Feb 21, 2006 6:40:56 GMT -5
plus the bad hair doesn't help!
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Post by lili on Feb 21, 2006 14:37:00 GMT -5
What I find fascinating is how much fairer Bill is than Paul was. BTW, sorry about that guys. I always have a hard time telling when a photo has been "mirrored"
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Post by -Wings- on Feb 21, 2006 15:02:43 GMT -5
Well, I don't think the replacement was/is neccesarily fairer than Paul. He was just very, very pale when he first debuted.
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Post by lili on Feb 21, 2006 15:06:39 GMT -5
Wings, that could be.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Feb 24, 2006 17:41:41 GMT -5
Spending so much time in plastic surgery and recuperating, he probably didnt see much outdoors. THey were preparing him for the biggest replacement of history...trying to be JPM.
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Post by lili on Feb 26, 2006 9:46:19 GMT -5
That's very possible, Rita.
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Post by noodles on Feb 26, 2006 12:44:02 GMT -5
Surely they had sun beds and make up and they could have easily faked a tan. I think all four McCartney's look about the same tanwise, these are just bad pictures.
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Post by mysteryboy on Mar 9, 2006 10:02:24 GMT -5
He then morphs into this dude Uh, it's already been proven (by some PWNRers) that they were using a strange camera angle and outdoor lighting for that interview. That's why he looked so odd. In the other photos, it's the mustache or hair. If you're not a professional photographer or cinematographer, you're unqualified to debate it. Then I can debate this. . Outdoor lighting is irrellevant. If anything, outdoor lighting will make the person look more like real life , thus the phrase "Natural Lighting". Camera angle is important here. Shooting from a slight angle above the face is typically flattering for the subject. The dude in that picture looks weird, and having seen the video, acts and talks weirdly as well. Thank you for the pictures, Pennylane!!
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 9, 2006 11:39:09 GMT -5
IMO the LSD interview has always been the biggest piece of proof (thats PROOF, not evidence) that PWR.
It's appallingly clear yet no-one can see it, other that us lot who go mad from time to time, trying to find more clues and make it public knowledge!
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Post by beatlies on Mar 9, 2006 12:04:54 GMT -5
from the sept 13th or whatever awards ceremony. Is this JPM in the Melody Maker video or a double, perhaps Dino Danelli with makeup/prosethtics? Look at the ear for example. This has been mentioned on the forum of TKIN. I am beginning to wonder, looking at the video of them deplaning in the London Airport, if JPM returned with the Beatles from the USA. That person looks and sounds possibly like a JPM double as well.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 10, 2006 21:50:00 GMT -5
That pic, Beatlies, sure is Paul-ish, but is not JPM...but it doesn't look like Bill.
Now is this Dino, or some other Faul...or is this Composite man....someone retouching the pics that resembles both JPM and Bill together?
This is what perplexes me, pointing out the different Fauls and wondering what is just a composite of JPM and the definite Faul...Bill.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Mar 10, 2006 23:00:30 GMT -5
Do you also know that when they landed back in London that Brian came out of the plane with a blanket or somesuch covering his head. The story was that they'd had a big argument on the plane, with John apparently blaming Brian for the stuff-ups on the American tour and that Brian was so upset he had broken out in hives; he was embarrased by his appearance so his head had been covered when he left the plane.
You know, i always thought that story was a little odd. Anyone could have been under that blanket.
So...perhaps neither Brian or Paul really returned from LA.
There's a fog upon L.A. And my friends have lost their way We'll be over soon they said Now they've lost themselves instead...
In the original 60IF story, it was about a kidnapping taking place as the were on their way home from the Amercian tour. It was assumed that Brian and Paul had secretly stayed behind for an extra few days, possibly to find some help for Paul's illness. They arrived back in London (or France?), took a Sunday drive on Sunday Sept 11th on their way back home and then...
So it appears the story has come full circle back to the beginning, back to its roots...
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Post by il ras on Mar 11, 2006 2:01:57 GMT -5
This pic is from the same day
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Post by Doc on Mar 11, 2006 2:57:46 GMT -5
Do you also know that when they landed back in London that Brian came out of the plane with a blanket or somesuch covering his head. The story was that they'd had a big argument on the plane, with John apparently blaming Brian for the stuff-ups on the American tour and that Brian was so upset he had broken out in hives; he was embarrased by his appearance so his head had been covered when he left the plane. You know, i always thought that story was a little odd. Anyone could have been under that blanket. So...perhaps neither Brian or Paul really returned from LA. There's a fog upon L.A. And my friends have lost their way We'll be over soon they said Now they've lost themselves instead...In the original 60IF story, it was about a kidnapping taking place as the were on their way home from the Amercian tour. It was assumed that Brian and Paul had secretly stayed behind for an extra few days, possibly to find some help for Paul's illness. They arrived back in London (or France?), took a Sunday drive on Sunday Sept 11th on their way back home and then... So it appears the story has come full circle back to the beginning, back to its roots... But, what about the stolen briefcase; i.e., attaché case of Epstein. Did Diz Gillespie really return it to Brian? What was so special really, in it? Did Friday night arrive without a suitcase? A reference to some lost luggage? Brian's luggage? Was it never sent home? Was it ever retrieved? Or was it best to leave it iin California......as.....evidence?....... Money? Contracts? Paper? PAUL MCCARTNEY lyrics - "Lady Madonna" www.OldieLyrics.com Lady Madonna, children at your feet Wonder how you manage to make ends meet Who finds the money? When you pay the rent? Did you think that money was Heaven sent? Friday night arrives without a suitcase Sunday morning creep in like a nun Monday's child has learned to tie his bootlace See how they run Lady Madonna, baby at your breast Wonder how you manage to feed the rest See how they run Lady Madonna, lying on the bed Listen to the music playing in your head Tuesday afternoon is never ending Wednesday morning papers didn't come Thursday night you stockings needed mending See how they run Lady Madonna, children at your feet Wonder how you manage to make ends meet "See how they run" is used 3 seperate times. "Making ends meet" occur 2 times, but Tuesday itself is "never ending." Nuns wear a "habit", and often takes "vows of silence." Lady Madonna might = Lennon/McCartney (L M) Why is "Saturday" skipped over? Every other day of the week gets mentioned...... "Who finds the money when you pay the rent?" Beatle profits helping to fill the coffers of the unstable British economy. A phenomenon too great to abandon. Whenever Serena, the Mexican pop singer, was killed by her secretary? 24 years old. Could Mexican intel/show biz have created a Falena? I guess not. The deed was known everywhere in short order. Information that moves today, moves fast and far. If Selena's career had been helping to feed the people of Mexico, it would totally be understandable. The journey to Los Angeles from San Francisco after Candlestick into the subsequent 48 hours. I have an intuition that says to me that the real linchpin in the story of PWR is found there........ Tuesday...........afternoon is never ending.......... wednesday morning papers didn't come thursday night your stockings needed mending because there were holes? i dunno
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Post by Doc on Mar 11, 2006 3:06:57 GMT -5
This pic is from the same day Hmmm. Let me see: So, Tom Jones is 5'9" tall. I am 5'9 and 1/2 inches tall. So, I am ever so slightly taller than Tom Jones. And everyone else in that picture, including Paul unless he is slumping. Or bare foot standing in a dip in the concrete. Notice the window. The window framing beams give us the X, Y, and Z orientation in that picture. All four persons are at a relatively similar distance from the lens, and the azimuth is fairly level. And the horizontal is fairly on jibe with the picture. Not dead on, no. So, it is not so much a "perspective" issue. We are seeing four folks standing nearly shotgun against a window panel. (Also, what is up with Paul's reflection in the glass? Study it closely. Does anyone notice some curious, faint impressions? A face near the back of the head image? Am I nuts? Am I hallucinating? No, not yet. That usually doesn't start till around dawn. Unless I get lucky. Perhaps Mr. Jones was in his lifts that day? If Paul is 5'11", then Tom's lifts would tend to be about..........4 inches. Ah, now, that's a man after my own shoes.
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 11, 2006 5:37:12 GMT -5
Now that has shocked me, Tom Jones only 5'9''? I frantically tried to find something that might cast doubt over this revelation but alas I couldn't! www.imdb.com/name/nm0429367/bio"5' 10" (1.78 m)" Thats as tall as I can find him, so something is going on in that picture.
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Post by lili on Mar 11, 2006 9:28:41 GMT -5
There are two possibilities. That Tom Jones is an imposter, or, Paul & Ritchie are the heights I've been saying they are. Thank you, Doc.
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 11, 2006 9:49:14 GMT -5
Now that has shocked me, Tom Jones only 5'9''? I frantically tried to find something that might cast doubt over this revelation but alas I couldn't! www.imdb.com/name/nm0429367/bio"5' 10" (1.78 m)" Thats as tall as I can find him, so something is going on in that picture. I would trust the British version over the American version so I am gonna agree that Tom Jones was 5'9". People always exaggerate their heights anyway. And imdb being the American version probably does this also. I wouldn't be surprised if John, George and Paul were not 5'11 as listed on imdb. They could easily be 5'9" or 5'10". What I do know is that Paul, George and John were all basically the same height and Ringo was about 3 inches shorter than them. This is self-evident.
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Post by beatlies on Mar 11, 2006 10:34:23 GMT -5
I think it's been long established here and in other places that JPM was significantly shorter than George and John, and that this is one of the many smoking gun proofs of the physical differences between JPM and his replacement imposter. JPM was probably around 5' 8" or maybe a little shorter. I doubt any of them were 5'11", maybe George came the closest.
How tall is Dino Danelli? Height issues aside, that doesn't look like a correct JPM. DoctorRobert, I have also "just seen a face" that you mention in the reflection in back of Paul, a sort of grotesque one, but it is probably just a coincidence, or a photo retoucher having some more fun .........
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