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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 19, 2004 16:05:30 GMT -5
It's not being "sat" on, it's right here, right out in the open. It's a hobby, it's a board, it's just us talking, chill.. (you don't need to flood the board with posts to make a point btw) I really don't mean to flood the board with posts, but I find it easier to respond to things one at a time, and many poeple are posting things to respond to and I am only one. I just find in more managable to do small posts adressing specific issues rather than one big post trying to respond to dozens of issues brought up by many people. Does this include the word "crap"? Is tolerant and respectful include referring to dummies, accusing people of being in fantasyland and calling them blind? Was it respectful to FP to jump on him because he just made an observation about a recent post, accusing him of ignoring the obvious and trying to change directions? Is it respecting other peoples work saying "I can cut and paste, too." The rules say PIA opinions are welcome and arguments from both sides are welcome. But when we do present our side, there is not an adult exchange challenging the position. Most of the time, it is personal attacks on the poster, ridiculing and belittling the person and the position. All need to respect the rules, not just the PIAers.
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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 19, 2004 16:12:47 GMT -5
But your conclusions are always correct and ours are erroneous? Correct? No, I have never said that, but when I bring up the possibility of alternative explanations, I am treated as if I must be blind and/or crazy (or maybe a dummy) for even thinking there may be other possible explanations. I have been told that if I do not see that the nose is different in a photograph, there is nothing further to discuss. That is tolerant? I certainly did not say the other person was crazy or blind for thinking the noses are different, I just expressed my opinion. But it seems the PWR conclusion is the only one tolerated and any other is erroneous.
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Post by revolver on Dec 19, 2004 16:16:58 GMT -5
Bug, I think you misinterpretted eyesbleed's 'Psych for Dummies' comment. Those '... for Dummies' books are for newbies where the reader is assumed to be the dummy, not the subject matter. Based on what I've read over at M-what-ever, most of them do think we're full of it. That's OK by me. They're entitled to their opinions as are we. PIDers get treated with a lot less tolerance there than PIAers do here. I do believe I saw you refer to our site as "cr*p" at least once. ;D
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Post by DarkHorse on Dec 19, 2004 16:32:38 GMT -5
No, I have never said that, but when I bring up the possibility of alternative explanations, I am treated as if I must be blind and/or crazy (or maybe a dummy) for even thinking there may be other possible explanations. I have been told that if I do not see that the nose is different in a photograph, there is nothing further to discuss. That is tolerant? I certainly did not say the other person was crazy or blind for thinking the noses are different, I just expressed my opinion. But it seems the PWR conclusion is the only one tolerated and any other is erroneous. We are tolerant for allowing you on this board. More tolerant than many mod's would be. Remember, this is a PID board.
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 19, 2004 16:57:23 GMT -5
Does this include the word "crap"? Is tolerant and respectful include referring to dummies, Yes, I was calling ME the dummie & the PIDers as full of crap.... which would indeed be agreed upon at M4E. You really need to.. A)CHILL B)get a little thicker skin I'm stating what I think about what's goin' on in as nice a way as I can. But then I can't even call MYSELF a name without you getting bent out of shape so I give up.
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 19, 2004 17:04:26 GMT -5
But don't ignore the other suggestion. Write a book. Make millions. Others have done it with other conspiracies. But I can't believe that all here would sit on a story that would prove to be one of the biggest stories of the latter half of the 20th century. Again, that's easy for you to say. There's tons of art I can only dream of getting around to & music that will never get recorded because I don't have the time or the resources. I have to work every single day to not quite get all the bills paid each week. Believe me, if I had only a fraction of the time & money this would take to get SIR Paul into court, I would invest it in myself & be a much happier & more accomplished artist.
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Post by xpt626 on Dec 19, 2004 18:04:24 GMT -5
...No photo on here shows 1967 1967:
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 19, 2004 20:46:21 GMT -5
1967: The only strange thing I see in that pic is the nose. Other than that, I see James Paul McCartney.
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 19, 2004 21:23:45 GMT -5
I see James Paul McCartney.
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Post by DarkHorse on Dec 19, 2004 21:26:12 GMT -5
The only strange thing I see in that pic is the nose. Other than that, I see James Paul McCartney. How about the long/oval face?
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 19, 2004 21:33:16 GMT -5
How about the long/oval face? James Paul had a long/oval face, take a look at your vintage pics in your Paul McCartney board.
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Post by DarkHorse on Dec 19, 2004 21:39:48 GMT -5
James Paul had a long/oval face, take a look at your vintage pics in your Paul McCartney board. I've seen his face a million times, I am not "taking a look" again. His face would be classified as round.
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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 20, 2004 10:00:36 GMT -5
1967: I was talking about the ones showing the earlobes. This does not in any way show the earlobes.
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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 20, 2004 10:06:25 GMT -5
Again, that's easy for you to say. There's tons of art I can only dream of getting around to & music that will never get recorded because I don't have the time or the resources. I have to work every single day to not quite get all the bills paid each week. Believe me, if I had only a fraction of the time & money this would take to get SIR Paul into court, I would invest it in myself & be a much happier & more accomplished artist. Are you the only one on this board? What about colaboration? Submit your proof to conspiracy authors. Send it to different news organizations. There are many things that can be done that will cost very little money and not take much time, especially if you divide up the tasks.
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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 20, 2004 10:19:10 GMT -5
Bug, I think you misinterpretted eyesbleed's 'Psych for Dummies' comment. Those '... for Dummies' books are for newbies where the reader is assumed to be the dummy, not the subject matter. Based on what I've read over at M-what-ever, most of them do think we're full of it. That's OK by me. They're entitled to their opinions as are we. PIDers get treated with a lot less tolerance there than PIAers do here. I do believe I saw you refer to our site as "cr*p" at least once. ;D I said that on this board? I don't remember saying that on any board. Could you please cite that?
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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 20, 2004 11:15:51 GMT -5
Any comment about the woman from liverpool and Paul's neighborhood who knew Paul pre '67 and post '66 who knows he is the same person?
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Post by JoJo on Dec 20, 2004 11:18:25 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Dec 20, 2004 11:21:00 GMT -5
Any comment about the woman from liverpool and Paul's neighborhood who knew Paul pre '67 and post '66 who knows he is the same person? I'd want to engage her in conversation, along the lines of Onlooker, who posts here occasionally.
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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 20, 2004 11:54:11 GMT -5
I'd want to engage her in conversation, along the lines of Onlooker, who posts here occasionally. We did engage her in conversation-for hours and hours; and not just about Paul, but the others as well. She isn't lying. She was there. She knows him. Her opinion gets a great deal of weight in my book.
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Post by Goldfinger on Dec 20, 2004 12:11:14 GMT -5
Dang, that was 3 days ago. Can't you come up with something recent? ;D I had just been reading how eyesbleed called the W. Campbell stuff I was posting was crap. I guess I got agitated.
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Post by xpt626 on Dec 20, 2004 17:26:51 GMT -5
Are you the only one on this board? What about colaboration? Submit your proof to conspiracy authors. Send it to different news organizations. There are many things that can be done that will cost very little money and not take much time, especially if you divide up the tasks. none of the admins of this board are on a "witch hunt" or looking to make millions from a 'conspiracy story', sorry. naturally, I cannot speak for every member registered here, as I do not know them personally. But the admins do know each other, and I can assure you that none of us have an interest in that sort of thing. I think JoJo already explained it very clearly earlier in this thread. now that you are assured no one here is looking for a book and movie deal, maybe you can move along to something else. As for references to your friend and her opinions and experiences; we have had other people who say the opposite. Thank you for relating her story to us, but it doesn't change where we're coming from. There are people here who "know people" -- how many Grammy winners have you hung out with lately? I don't mean that to sound arrogant, but as an admin I know that there are members here who are professionals in the music industry, and who have friends in and around the industry. we're not all fifteen year-old social outcasts with wild imaginations, playing in computerland. (No offense intended if anyone here is a teen) There are members here with all sorts of occupations, background, and knowledge. please try to bear that in mind when making blanket statements like "no one here researches anything before jumping to conclusions" (paraphrased). It just makes you sound silly.
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 20, 2004 18:53:02 GMT -5
none of the admins of this board are on a "witch hunt" or looking to make millions from a 'conspiracy story', sorry. naturally, I cannot speak for every member registered here, as I do not know them personally. But the admins do know each other, and I can assure you that none of us have an interest in that sort of thing. I think JoJo already explained it very clearly earlier in this thread. now that you are assured no one here is looking for a book and movie deal, maybe you can move along to something else. As for references to your friend and her opinions and experiences; we have had other people who say the opposite. Thank you for relating her story to us, but it doesn't change where we're coming from. There are people here who "know people" -- how many Grammy winners have you hung out with lately? I don't mean that to sound arrogant, but as an admin I know that there are members here who are professionals in the music industry, and who have friends in and around the industry. we're not all fifteen year-old social outcasts with wild imaginations, playing in computerland. (No offense intended if anyone here is a teen) There are members here with all sorts of occupations, background, and knowledge. please try to bear that in mind when making blanket statements like "no one here researches anything before jumping to conclusions" (paraphrased). It just makes you sound silly. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Good-Post[1].gif"]
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Post by xpt626 on Dec 20, 2004 20:02:09 GMT -5
ahhhhh. I see. ;D I thought it was awfully "benevolent" of you, TheBug, to worry about the well-being of the "fence sitters" at a forum you are not on the staff of.Obviously, your only reason for being here is to try to throw a wrench into everything we do at this forum. I warned you (on the board, not in PM) before, "one more time, and I'll punch your ticket". I'll tell you right now that the only reason I'm not hitting the "ban" button on you is that I think you are much unhappier having to parade around here wearing your two warnings ;D Of course, who's to say one of the other admins may not feel differently...or that I might not change my mind Take your crusade for the well-being of the "fence sitters" somewhere else. This is a PID forum, not an "intervention site" ;D And, Mr. 2-sitting-on-3, I wouldn't be disruptive anymore if I were you.
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Post by FlamingPie on Dec 20, 2004 21:46:13 GMT -5
Getting back on topic, look at this: I win.
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Post by Girl on Dec 20, 2004 22:57:20 GMT -5
You forgot to fix the nose.
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