james paul and jayne mansfield - decapitated?

[madtitan125]

Just occurred to me that these two may share this in common.

According to legend, Jayne Mansfield was killed in an auto accident after crossing Anton LaVey, founder of the Satanic Church.

Some accounts have her suffering decapitation or scalping during accident.

Clues point to James Paul being assasinated by freemasons after JPM purportedly did something to offend or anger them.

One thread even showed an illustration of the freemasons "IX. Elect Of The Nine," featuring artwork showing a blade and a man's decapitation. Wonder if this is where the title for Revolution No. 9 gets its inspiration?

Some say that JPM merely lost his wig. Others think he was actually literally decapitated. The clues in the MMT comics come to mind.

There is also a common conflicting story with Mansfield.
Some reports have her actually being decapitated. Others have her suffering scalping in accident.

Just thought I'd bring up this common thread between central characters on Sgt. Pepper cover.

[lili]

I have also read conflicting reports about Jane Mansfield. Hey, I just found one more thing that they have in common. Their initials, J.M. !

[LOVELYRITA]

I have heard that Jayne was decapitated in a car wreck. She was involved in witchcraft and the occult.
I also heard the decapitation of JPM and the scalping. Either way, it's totally disgusting for someone to die that way.

[sistermaryabbey]

I, too, heard about Jayne Mansfield being decapitated in the car accident. Wasn't she with her husband Mickey Hargaty and he survived.

Also, one version of Paul's death did mention the bad guys coming back and decapitating him. I will say the picture that shows how he looked when found doesn't show a total body shot; therefore, I suppose it could have been possible. Or a near decapitation.

Is this some part of the freemason society's retaliation ritual?

[il ras]

I found this site: archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PALMER/2001-09/1000702828
where you can find:
"the book written by Raymond Strait (Jayne's publicist for over ten years) "Here They Are Jayne Mansfield" states: "an exchange between myself and Dr, Nicholas J. Chetta, Coroner for the Parish of Orleans in New Orleans revealed some more pertinent -and honest- facts about Jayne and the accident. He said that Jayne was not decapitated, although the top of her scalp was torn away in the accident. Also, contrary to Jayne's reputation (something all who were close to her knew about), she was the only one drinking in the party, and her stomach revealed the contents of merely one cocktail." "
This is even more similar to what we have always known as been happened to Paul....

[lili]

Maybe Jayne was forced off the road. I suspect that Paul suffered a similar fate !
Now THAT would be something. There's the connection.The Illuminists are hedonists at least. So are the Satanists. Jayne was involved with Anton Le Vey. He was the head of the Church of Satan in Los Angeles ( I think that's where it was ). So, maybe forcing cars off the road is one of the ways that they use to get rid of dissidents ?

[LOVELYRITA]

I find it interesting that Jayne was in New Orleans, a very occultic center of activity. She was probably leaving some occultic ceremony and was killed.

[lili]

I don't know about that. I read that she was killed because she became concerned with what she was getting involved in & tried to back out of it. After all, she was the mother of 3 children. I'm sure that she loved them very much.
Unless, that occult ceremony was the final straw & caused her to get cold feet about involving herself with such things.

[beatlies]

From the Beatles Playboy Interview February 1965 with Jean SHEPHERD (!) ---at the top of the web site where this is printed it notes that the interview may seem "disjointed" because "parts are missing" ... this seems to happen below where they start talking abruptly about "American girls" including Joan Baez and Jayne Mansfield ---

Ringo: The good thing when you go to a place where the people are such drags, such snobs, you see, is that they won't bother to come over to your table. They pretend they don't even know who you are, and you get away with an easy night.

George: And they think they're laughing at us, but really we're laughing at them. 'Cause we know they know who we are. They're not going to be like the rest and ask for autographs.

Ringo: And if they do we just swear at 'em.

George: Well, I don't, Beatle people. I sign the autograph and thank them profusely for coming over and offer them a piece of my chop.

John: If we're in the middle of a meal, I usually say, "Do you mind waiting till I'm finished?"

George: And then we keep eating until they give up and leave.

John: That's not true, Beatle people!

Paul: Some of those American girls have been great.

John: Like Joan Baez.

Paul: Joan Baez is good, yeah, very good.

John: She's the only one I like.

George: And Jayne Mansfield. Playboy made her.

Paul: Actually, she's a clot.

Ringo: Says Paul, the god of the Beatles.

Paul: I didn't mean it, Beatle people! Actually, I haven't even met her. But you won't print that anyway, of course, because Playboy is very pro-Mansfield. They think she's a rave. But she really is an old bag.

Playboy: By the way, what are Beatle people?

John: It's something they use in the fan mags in America. They all start out, "Hi there, Beatle people, 'spect you're wondering what the Fab Foursome are doing these days!" Now we use it all the time, too.

[beatlies]

Jayne Mansfield is not on the cover of Sgt. Pepper.

[Doc]

beatlies said:

Jayne Mansfield is not on the cover of Sgt. Pepper.

Yes, Diana Dors. My mistake. Sorry.

[beatlies]

She does look like Jayne Mansfield in that cover picture, and the name Diana Dors sounds like Doris Day. She has a key location in the cover to form the hidden pictures that can be seen with a mirror about the walrus, shirley Temple etc. They might have used her to get as close as possible, "replace" the women, whose permission they tried to get for the use of their images on the cover but who would not consent, Foris and Jayne Mansfield.

[mciiii]

Here some links to Jayne accident

www.findadeath.com/Deceased/m/Mansfield/dead%20jayne.htm

The dead dog and Jayne wig

www.findadeath.com/Deceased/m/Mansfield/dead%20dog.JPG

Her death cetificate

www.findadeath.com/Deceased/m/Mansfield/dc.jpg

[TotalInformation]

Has it been documented anywhere they formally tried to get DORIS or Mansfield figures for the covers? I've seen reports about Hitler, Bette Davis, etc, but not those two.

[beatlies]

I haven't read anywhere that they tried to get Doris Day or Jayne Mansfield, although who knows? We're not being given a straight story about anything involving the Beatles, especially not the Sgt. Pepper cover meanings. Both Foris (the multiple women impostering Doris) and Mansfield were inside the same government/military/Satanists rings as the Beatles. The Diana Dors figure may represent both Foris and Mansfield.

[TotalInformation]

This is what I wrote about JPM being decapitated

Interestingly, once when looking for the Lennon song "How Do You Sleep?" I instead found one with the same name by a band called "The Stone Roses." The first line is, "I've seen your severed head at a banquet for the dead."

[mciiii]

totalinformation said:

Has it been documented anywhere they formally tried to get DORIS or Mansfield figures for the covers? I've seen reports about Hitler, Bette Davis, etc, but not those two.

i've got this Lennon/Mansfield pic, but i dont know if they wanna Jayne for Pepper cover



The Beatles onced stated that Jayne Mansfield was the American moviestar they would most like to meet.
When they met at the Whiskey A-Go-Go in Hollywood, Jayne took vocal notice of John Lennon's shag hairdo and asked, " Is that real?" Glancing at her chest, his reply was, " Are those real? "