Poem from ACV

[Red Lion]

Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I'm sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You'll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer's clothes.

Apollo C. Vermouth

[iameye]

yes Apollo, what a wild 40 year goose chase it's been, all leading to the three parables in LUKE 15?

The Parable of the Lost Sheep

1Now the tax collectors and "sinners" were all gathering around to hear him. 2But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, "This man welcomes sinners and eats with them."
3Then Jesus told them this parable: 4"Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, 'Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.' 7I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

The Parable of the Lost Coin

8"Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Does she not light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, 'Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.' 10In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."
The Parable of the Lost Son

11Jesus continued: "There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger one said to his father, 'Father, give me my share of the estate.' So he divided his property between them.
13"Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.' 20So he got up and went to his father.
"But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.'

22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.

25"Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27'Your brother has come,' he replied, 'and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.'

28"The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!'

31" 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' "

[ccinri]

Thanks for posting the three parables iameye!

[mystery tour]

redlion said:

Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I'm sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You'll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer's clothes.

Apollo C. Vermouth

It's good. Thank you for posting it.

[mommybird]

What I would love to know is why all the mystery, why all the intrigue ? If what went down is what I think went down, all this subterfuge does is dishoner those who suffered through it. It dishoners those whose lives were either ruined or taken because of this conspiracy.
If ACV is a true insider & if he really knows what happened to those boys in 1966, he needs to get it off his chest. If he is afraid to say it publicly, then he must IM JoJo, Jan ( Valis ) Darkhorse, or eyesbleed. All of these men are honorable men. Any one of them would be happy to hear what he has to say, man to man.
It's time to stop beating around the bush & to get the true story out...

[Red Lion]

mommybird said:

What I would love to know is why all the mystery, why all the intrigue ? If what went down is what I think went down, all this subterfuge does is dishoner those who suffered through it. It dishoners those whose lives were either ruined or taken because of this conspiracy.
If ACV is a true insider & if he really knows what happened to those boys in 1966, he needs to get it off his chest. If he is afraid to say it publicly, then he must IM JoJo, Jan ( Valis ) Darkhorse, or eyesbleed. All of these men are honorable men. Any one of them would be happy to hear what he has to say, man to man.
It's time to stop beating around the bush & to get the true story out...

Did you read what he wrote? It is rather direct.

[TotalInformation]

Online was a man from Nantucket
who spewed bullsh!t so as they'd suck it.
Pure of intent,
nave minds got bent.
All You Need Is Love? He'd duck it.

[LOVELYRITA]

IMO...if there was someone who really knew the story, not just speculating from videos or songs, but was in insider....and posted in one of these forums piddling around with strange clues or riddles...I would stay stop playing games.

For many of us the Beatles was a serious part of our lives and the music affected our worlds. Or some may be inquisitive and want to know why this had to happen.

It was difficult seeing the comparisons and realizing that PID/PWR. It was very disturbing, and for me very sad. JPM was killed and those of us fans who were alive at the time this happened, and had thought Bill was really JPM for all of those years feel raped....because we were sold a "Bill" of goods, thinking this was JPM and wondered what happened that the music was so different from before..not only the music, but the looks....

We were robbed of mourning the death of JPM as we were able to sort through the nightmare of John's murder and George's battle with cancer and losing that battle. We didn't have any closure. This is what is the most difficult.

I'm tired of being lied to and deceived not only about JPM's death and replacement, but the other people connected to this scenario who have died, or suffered because of these replacements. Just tired of the false information being fed to us by the so called "media".

[plastic paul]

That post was the man himself speaking directly to you and I telling us what actually happened!

[mommybird]

Red Lion & Plastic Paul - both of you feel that what he wrote was direct & to the point. Since I'm not the only one ( I'm sure that there are members other than me & Rita ) who don't fully understand, why don't you both educate us.
He is using innuendo & parables to tell us a story. Why not just lay it on the line...
Sometimes I wonder if this guy believes that he is the modern day Jesus Christ...

[secondlifer]

I dont understand how you cant see it. its plain as day. Hes fukin nuts and needs to be on medication to make the voices stop. cheesy rhymes like ago and know or 2 and through. or more likely hes just jackin off everybody on the forum and seeing who gets off. Either way he is not to be taken seriously. he contributes nothing and muddies the water with his rhetoric.

this would only make sense to an unbalanced mind of the same twist Its like marching orders for the next serial killer lookin for an insanity defense

on another note. i had a rather dyspeptic experience earlier today. A sinatraesque version of "cant buy me love" came on the muzak in the office. I was nearly physically Ill. A lot of hard work and inspiration went into making that and many other songs and to hear them ruined like that... Really!


Quoting the bible is another sure way to lose credibility. it is one of if not THE most bastardized body of religious writings in history.
It has been used to justify so many selfish and intolerant endevors. from the spanish inquisition to KKK and the present "war on terror".

Parables by definition are an indirect way to express ones self.
In the land of the free lunch and home of the Atlanta Braves you have the right, indeed the obligation to express yourself clearly, succintly, and directly, and your right to your own opinion is as guaranteed as your right to have an assole. even if they both stink.
Apollo. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO SAY THEN BY ALL MEANS [glow=red,2,300]SAY IT!!![/glow]. If not, then sit quiet and have a nice day.

as always, unless otherwise stated, this is all my own humble opinion.

[jarvitronics]

I don't know what to think about ACV, but . . .

Secondlifer dude you made me laugh so hard I nearly shat myself.

-j

[JoJo]

Looking at this in an impartial observer kinda way, I find it curious how ACV elicits such strong reactions from so many.. Why? He makes about one post per year at this point, and yet a casual acceptance for so much that is far more incredulous.

[revolver]

redlion said:

Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I'm sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You'll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer's clothes.

Apollo C. Vermouth

Redlion, was the 'two' (instead of 'too') a typo or intentional?

[mommybird]

I can tell you straight up that was no typo. That was intentional.
ACV doesn't DO typos.

[Red Lion]

Mommybird is correct.

[plastic paul]

secondlifer said:

I dont understand how you cant see it. its plain as day. Hes fukin nuts and needs to be on medication to make the voices stop. cheesy rhymes like ago and know or 2 and through. or more likely hes just jackin off everybody on the forum and seeing who gets off. Either way he is not to be taken seriously. he contributes nothing and muddies the water with his rhetoric.

this would only make sense to an unbalanced mind of the same twist Its like marching orders for the next serial killer lookin for an insanity defense

on another note. i had a rather dyspeptic experience earlier today. A sinatraesque version of "cant buy me love" came on the muzak in the office. I was nearly physically Ill. A lot of hard work and inspiration went into making that and many other songs and to hear them ruined like that... Really!


Quoting the bible is another sure way to lose credibility. it is one of if not THE most bastardized body of religious writings in history.
It has been used to justify so many selfish and intolerant endevors. from the spanish inquisition to KKK and the present "war on terror".

Parables by definition are an indirect way to express ones self.
In the land of the free lunch and home of the Atlanta Braves you have the right, indeed the obligation to express yourself clearly, succintly, and directly, and your right to your own opinion is as guaranteed as your right to have an assole. even if they both stink.
Apollo. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO SAY THEN BY ALL MEANS [glow=red,2,300]SAY IT!!![/glow]. If not, then sit quiet and have a nice day.

as always, unless otherwise stated, this is all my own humble opinion.

Well I don't see you having a go at Jarv with his little ditties or Doc when he tells us of his musings, why go crazy over Apollo?

(not that anyone should be having a go at either of the aforementioned!)

[mystery tour]

plasticpaul said:

That post was the man himself speaking directly to you and I telling us what actually happened!

Could you interpret it for me? I am a little confused in spots.

[revolver]

Yes, maybe some interpretations could be posted in the members-only section.

[LOVELYRITA]

Parables were used in the Bible to teach those who knew what it meant and for those who had no understanding, were left to ponder what it meant.

So for those of us who don't understand the meaning of the James/Pauline Parables, we have to keep coming to conclusions based on assumptions....even if some go down the Don Knotts trail....

We have to keep guessing....

Until the time of revelation is at hand...

[jarvitronics]

plasticpaul said:

Well I don't see you having a go at Jarv with his little ditties or Doc when he tells us of his musings, why go crazy over Apollo?

(not that anyone should be having a go at either of the aforementioned!)

I think the reason nobody has a go at me and Doc is because neither of us make any claim to know any "inside information" about the Beatles Mystery.

On the other hand, people like ACV and IAAP have been overtly "clear" that they know the truth and we don't.

I suppose that is what bothers the folks who have expressed themselves here.

-j

[revolver]

And there's always the unspoken concern that perhaps we're just being played. The internet makes it difficult to know who's for real and who's Knott.

[jarvitronics]

mommybird said:

I can tell you straight up that was no typo. That was intentional.
ACV doesn't DO typos.

Does that include his speling of Emporer?

-j

[CoconutFudge]

Agreed, revolver. I mean, particular members of a particular other message board comes to mind here when I think about people who claim to hold knowledge and/or documents and/or WHATEVER relating to PID/PWR. It's tough for me to trust people on my internet when they are so reluctant in presenting information and backing it up with such evidence. That said, I have as much of a reason to trust them as I have reason not to trust them, also because I don't know them. So I definitely am always interested in things that are brought up by those who claim to be insiders, so statements like the one at the beginning of this thread are kind of fascinating.

Did that make sense? Ish?

[Red Lion]

jojo said:

Looking at this in an impartial observer kinda way, I find it curious how ACV elicits such strong reactions from so many.. Why? He makes about one post per year at this point, and yet a casual acceptance for so much that is far more incredulous.

Many on these forums are committed to Paul being dead. They cannot fathom a scenario where he might have actually lived on. Yet when observed from this point of view the story makes much more sense. Yes, Paul was replaced, it is obvious. Beyond that it is all speculation. Celebrities die all the time, its not that big a deal. Isn't it odd that Jane Asher, Paul's family, and the entire Beatles entourage went along with this charade? How about George passing without a word about this? He certainly had every opportunity. And why hasnt anyone come forth and said "I saw the body"? Maybe the Beatles werent lying when they said Paul wasnt dead. The right questions were never asked. And for the last forty years this topic hasnt ever been officially addressed. So who is it that would need to STILL be protected? A JPM that died in 1966, or one that is still alive today?

ACV is merely rocking the boxes of those who dont like what he has to say because it doesnt "fit" what they think happened.