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Post by CoconutFudge on Feb 6, 2007 22:19:37 GMT -5
This video seems to have Faul posing as many other important musicians, all of whom, except for one (ha!) are not him. I think it's EXTREMELY telling that there's an early- to mid- 1960s Paul McCartney in this video because I think Faul is saying that he admires JPM, but he is, in fact, NOT HIM! Also, in the comments for the video, someone noticed that he seems to be playing the drums right-handed. I don't know what the difference between right- and left- handed drumming is. Anyone got any insight about that? I had some time to kill between my classes today and came across this video and I was absolutely stunned! This may not be a new discovery, but, in my eyes, it's pretty big! Check it out for yourself: youtube.com/watch?v=xvEQmyoP18EVeeeery interesting. What are your thoughts? |
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Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 7, 2007 9:46:31 GMT -5
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Post by CoconutFudge on Feb 7, 2007 23:37:43 GMT -5
Thanks, 4KH! I was really excited because I actually noticed something that I hadn't heard of before that doesn't make me sound insane/stupid.  Wow, that's pretty interesting, I didn't even notice anything about John/Yoko in the video. Also, I thought it was interesting that this was one of the songs remixed on "Twin Freaks." Seems kind of telling to me. I'm shamelessly addicted to this song. It's so catchy... Finally, I'm really interested to hear what people think about this, thank you please.  |
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 8, 2007 4:34:30 GMT -5
!!
I noticed that the long haired Paul (next to Buddy Holly Paul) has a Japanese shirt on!
The letters are in Katakana which means that it is an English word that has been "japanized" so to speak. On the top line I can make out "something - sura" and on the bottom line "something - kusu" the stupid jacket covers the other letters....... Oh well, guess we will never know.
There is was folks. The biggest clue of all, right there on that shirt..... ;D
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Post by beatlies on Feb 8, 2007 9:48:04 GMT -5
!! I noticed that the long haired Paul (next to Buddy Holly Paul) has a Japanese shirt on! The letters are in Katakana which means that it is an English word that has been "japanized" so to speak. On the top line I can make out "something - sura" and on the bottom line "something - kusu" the stupid jacket covers the other letters....... Oh well, guess we will never know. There is was folks. The biggest clue of all, right there on that shirt..... ;D I think that's supposed to be Yoko Ono. Also note, "she" never smiles and is playing the guitar left-handed, and Buddy Holly/Charlie Brill gives her the obscene finger gesture. I had asked people outside the forum if they could translate the shirt, a while ago, and didn't get a response. Part of it is hidden from view by the outer garment. Mello Yello, it is possible you could have a fluent Japanese reader translate as much as possible, who may recognize a familar pattern with "sura" "kusu" etc. ? With the frames frozen in sequence on youtube to see as much as one can. The name of Faul's band in Coming Up is "The Plastic Macs" ---very telling, "I see right through your plastic mac"---the Who "Substitute", "plastic Macca" etc. |
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Post by JoJo on Feb 8, 2007 15:56:13 GMT -5
If Mello is interested, I could make some stills with the sharper copy I have.
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 8, 2007 15:58:35 GMT -5
Yeah that would be good. I was already thinking about printing them out and showing them to one of the teaching assistants (they are native japanese). They would probably be able to infer the rest of the word from what is given.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 8, 2007 18:34:48 GMT -5
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 9, 2007 22:03:58 GMT -5
Alright here's the plan: I print these out along with some other pictures and take them in Monday. I will tell the sensei that: "a friend is doing a report on Paul McCartney's life around the late 70's/ early 80's... You may remember that he was arrested in Japan for marijuana posession. Viewing one of McCartney's videos in the from 1980, my friend caught some katakana and asked me to translate. I, however could not infer what the rest of it was and was hoping if maybe it was recognizable to you." And then I will just pray that it isn't some kind of racial slur......  |
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Post by JoJo on Feb 9, 2007 22:22:05 GMT -5
Thanks for checking this out Mello.
Eh, I doubt it, simply because there are so many native Japanese speakers who would potentially see this video.
I also don't believe he has a problem with the Japanese as a group, perhaps one in particular..
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 14, 2007 1:14:02 GMT -5
Sorry guys, no luck. Only the assistant teacher was in today, and she told me that neither "sura" or "kusu" are common endings to Japanese phrases, and without seeing the entire word it could mean anything. But one thing is for certain it is not a verb, and is highly unlikely to be an adjective or an adverb. So it is most likely a noun.... But, like I said without seeing the whole word it could be anything. The main teacher will be back tommorow but tommorow is also my midterm test(still hasn't studied) SO I won't have a chance to ask then.
So I am going to post these pics over on another (Japanese) board that I frequent and see what they make of them.
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Post by beatlies on Feb 14, 2007 1:38:47 GMT -5
Thanks for checking this out Mello. Eh, I doubt it, simply because there are so many native Japanese speakers who would potentially see this video. I also don't believe he has a problem with the Japanese as a group, perhaps one in particular.. Faul and his handlers did have a track on his 1979 titled "Frozen Jap." What kind of message does that send to the kids? |
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 14, 2007 3:07:13 GMT -5
Mystery solved...... On the shirt, you can make out parts of the katakana words purasutikku and makkusu, which would be the band's name.
Bill sure did think alot of the band name "Plastic Macs" to get it put on a shirt and a drum........
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Post by beatlies on Feb 14, 2007 4:09:32 GMT -5
Mystery solved...... On the shirt, you can make out parts of the katakana words purasutikku and makkusu, which would be the band's name.Bill sure did think alot of the band name "Plastic Macs" to get it put on a shirt and a drum........ Outstanding, Mello Yello. Yoko of the Plastic Ono Band is wearing the Plastic Macs. The other plastic man would be, to her side, Buddy Holly/Charlie Brill/John Lennon. Formerly with Mitzi MaccaCall.   |
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Post by beatlies on Feb 27, 2007 2:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 27, 2007 22:18:42 GMT -5
I was looking at "Coming Up" again, and what really jumped out at me this time was that "Beatle Paul" is having a good laugh at Bill/Faul pretending to be him! The maker of this video obviously anticipated that the day would come when people would get that Bill wasn't really Paul, and all the winks and eye-rolling of "Beatle Paul" are an inside joke to the wise! "Look at this dufus!" he's saying with his body language. Now of course, we know that all the people are actually Bill, but clearly the message is from Paul's perspective, so Bill is having a joke on himself! ("BeatlePaul" points to Bill in his un-made-up state; or, in other words, as the replacement actually appears when he's not being "Paul".) www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmQxwtzDUfI&mode=related&search=From this post: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQEdSOo-K0&mode=related&search=we have the following info on "Coming Up": "Paul's twenty-sixth solo single. Credited to "Paul McCartney" Recorded during the summer of 1979 solo sessions the A-side appeared one month later on "McCartney II". Probably the most memorable thing about the release was the stunning video that Paul made to promote the song on television. Recorded on 26th/27th March 1980, film-maker Keef McMillan used a new computerised desk to have Paul appear as ten people AT THE SAME TIME, a band that Paul cleverly dubbed "The Plastic Macs". Paul imitated the looks of Buddy Holly, Frank Zappa, Ron Mael, Andy Mackay, Ginger Baker (looking more like "Animal" of The Muppets !) and even a 1964 Beatle version of himself ! Linda also appeared in two guises making "The Plastic Macs" a 12-piece band. *"Coming Up" on the B-side was recorded live on December 17th 1979 at the Glasgow Apollo with the last Wings line-up. The second track, "Lunchbox/Odd Sox" was recorded in L.A. in February 1975 during the Venus And Mars sessions, and featured the earlier "Mark V" version of "Wings". The single was released in a picture sleeve, once again on an original Parlophone label "* With a secret dig at Charlie and Yoko, of course! |
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Post by mysteryboy on Feb 28, 2007 14:43:08 GMT -5
This video seems to have Faul posing as many other important musicians, all of whom, except for one (ha!) are not him. I think it's EXTREMELY telling that there's an early- to mid- 1960s Paul McCartney in this video because I think Faul is saying that he admires JPM, but he is, in fact, NOT HIM! Also, in the comments for the video, someone noticed that he seems to be playing the drums right-handed. I don't know what the difference between right- and left- handed drumming is. Anyone got any insight about that? I had some time to kill between my classes today and came across this video and I was absolutely stunned! This may not be a new discovery, but, in my eyes, it's pretty big! Check it out for yourself: youtube.com/watch?v=xvEQmyoP18EVeeeery interesting. What are your thoughts? Nice find! Also, notice how the three horn players are doing the same movements that the three guys in white do in the "Death Cab for Cutie" sequence in MMT. Three in white again. I see that Mac makes sure that we notice that he is wearing a RED carnation this time, another reference to "Magical Mystery Tour de force". Also, the same movements can be seen in a small portion of "I am the Walrus" . I think the reason why it is done in 'Walrus' is that when you later see it repeated in 'Cab for Cutie' there are three instead of four people. |
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