madtitan125
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"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
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Post by madtitan125 on Apr 5, 2004 0:44:27 GMT -5
Hi Everyone,
I'm of the belief that this secret wasn't meant to be kept forever, and that the Beatles were going to reveal it at one point or another, possibly at the dissolution of the group.
The fact that so many clues were intentionally placed, to me, bears this out.
With Faul, at the Grammy's, accepting that award "on behalf of John, George, Paul and Ringo," saying that he was lucky to meet the Beatles, the way everyone treated Faul like a leper during Georges' tribute, George's "Brainwashed" CD, John's "Double Fantasy" (fantasy of a double), etc. etc.
What does everyone think? Will someone finally step forward to tell the true story?
I sometimes wonder what the impact this type of revelation would have on the world.
What will happen once the world discovers that it is so easily deceived? That maybe it even seeks to be deceived?
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Post by JoJo on Apr 6, 2004 21:04:02 GMT -5
All good points, this is a [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Good-Post[1].gif"] I would say though that leaving the clues says that they believed that the truth would never come out, or if they talked about that as a plan for the future, subconsciously they knew it would never happen. Will someone confess someday? Just flat out say Paul was replaced by a double, and this is how I know? I doubt it, but I don't rule it out 100 percent. Maybe 99.9 percent, but not 100. There's a strong instinct in people not to rock the boat, not to make waves, and at this point, how to explain keeping quiet for so long? The bearer of bad news is not real popular is he... Interesting about the concert for George, look at all the old timers there, I mean real old timers. If PWR is true, they would be the ones to have heard things. Someone like Clapton and the Wilbury's were close to George, they may have been told at some point, or somehow they got the message loud and clear. Just seemed like they were pretty cold. A couple of clues even at the concert, or things that made me go hmmm anyway. One, Ringo is saying "Photograph was a a song that George and I wrote together, and although the meaning has changed..." Which begs the question, what was the meaning to begin with? Why did they write this one together, a song that on the surface is a "lost love" song? And now he's implying the meaning has changed now that George has passed. So was the song's meaning previously about someone that passed on, only the person has changed, or did it go from a love song to a tribute. So many questions, and only vague hints. Another thing was during "Wah Wah", which btw was a song George wrote after a particularly bad day of making "Let It Be". Wah Wah, meaning all the bickering. When they come to the line "So you think you're a big star", the camera goes straight to Sir Paul. What would the world reaction be? Well it would open a real Pandora's box, wouldn't it? If this was possible, that the most famous face in the world was replaced with a lookalike and no one noticed!!! Well what else do we ignore, what else is as plain as the nose on our faces that we don't even notice? I'd love to watch what would happen after that day, that would be so fun watching the attempt at spin control...  |
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Post by lj on Apr 7, 2004 4:32:45 GMT -5
that was a great observation about "photograph".  i noticed that line too, but i instinctevely (sp?) went from "love song" to "tribute". that shows how no matter what's your state on PWR/PID, some things never change, and the first reaction would still be "it's ok, no need to look for clues everywhere". ;D ;D one thing i would say is that i don't think this will be uncovered big time. i mean, this never was meant to be uncovered, or the beatles would have said it loud and clear no matter what. maybe i'm wrong, but lennon wasn't the type to be kept quiet, was he? and anyway, if anyone "dares" to go there and say "this is what happened" noone will believe it anyway. "come on, it's sir paul that you're talking about". hey, no negativity here, just being realistic. besides, to be honest, with what purpose? i know... i know... giving paul's name back... |
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Post by tal on Apr 7, 2004 9:40:35 GMT -5
i guess they wouldn't have planted all the clues if they never intended on revealing the truth , unless ofcourse , it's all a publicity stunt. right?
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Post by JoJo on Apr 7, 2004 10:52:23 GMT -5
Very true, except you know the one person who everyone would have to believe, don't you? Does Ringo have the most honest looking face in the world or not? ;D
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Post by Doc on Apr 7, 2004 15:51:17 GMT -5
Common sense tells me (a rare event) that IF PWR, or PID, then a recruitment promise would have been made as an oath, or perhaps a life-long contract, to protect the "situation." Like a marraige, till death do us part so to speak. If there were a Bill, he is "married" in a business sense to the "identity" of "Paul." (Which in an odd sort of way, makes him a "wife." "...Nothing to do but call the WIFE in.....")
As long as "Paul" is alive, well, lets just say that, "Paul IS alive."
So, I feel sure that no such thing will happen before that (if it were a possibility).
Afterwards? Who could say. I doubt it.
For these things, in such a situation, perhaps "never" is the plan.
Its strange, but I wish we could both know, and yet let it all go, at the same time. Can't he go on being accepted as Paul while the people that are so inclined to believe PWR can "get it?" and just move on?
I personally see no changes ever happenning about this.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 7, 2004 17:30:35 GMT -5
I'll agree with the part of knowing, yet we let it go to a point. Or perhaps once the shock wears off, we sort it all out in light of this new state of reality. The replacement can live in peace, fine by me. But the people that engineered this will have some explaining to do. But yes, I'm fine with moving on afterwards.
No it is so unlikely, but sometimes the unexpected happens.. And there's always hope..
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Post by lj on Apr 8, 2004 5:29:31 GMT -5
Very true, except you know the one person who everyone would have to believe, don't you? Does Ringo have the most honest looking face in the world or not? ;D well, yes... the only two people in this world that would be believed would be ringo and "sir paul", of course. |
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Post by Doc on Apr 9, 2004 0:07:12 GMT -5
Or George Martin, or a spokesperson for EMI.
I am not clear; has Sir George passed on or not? I like to think not, but I thought I heard it was so. I found a fairly new web-site last night saying he was alive and retired. Anyone know?
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 9, 2004 0:11:22 GMT -5
George Martin Died? How? When?
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Post by Doc on Apr 9, 2004 0:16:38 GMT -5
Also, I think that at the outset, if this alledged thing occurred, that the first conception of it was for a short, limited run. I think the idea that it might not work was plain to all; the clues et al served as a rationale, a way out. After all, whether Paul was replaced or not, the "gestalht picture of everything" was "in your face" [and ears] on Sgt Pepper's.
That the makers of the album front label had no concept of a funeral-memoriam at some level, as that they carefully crafted a few hundred details which were put in plain site, is inconcievable.
They were at the very least, if it has no intrinsic meaning, pulling our legs as much as Zappa did later with his send up of the same cover art.
Just My Opinion--I think it is a veiled but brilliant tribute to the memory of James Paul McCartney.
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Post by Harb on Apr 9, 2004 12:15:13 GMT -5
George Martin is still alive and well. He retired a couple of years ago due to his hearing failing but he's still going strong.
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Post by Doc on Apr 9, 2004 16:03:39 GMT -5
Very good, yes, I am glad to hear that he is still alive and well.
Obviously I confused a news story I heard over a year ago.
Glad I checked on it, though. Well, his ears did a LOT of good listening for a very long time. He is a supremely gifted and accomplished musician.
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Post by jpmtruthcanuck on Jan 21, 2013 18:32:14 GMT -5
Much as I wish the truth would be revealed, I don't think this will ever happen. Each person who knows the truth has something to lose. There will be no death bed confessions by insiders who want to protect their surviving family members. Also, those in the know will keep silent to avoid disgrace and maybe trouble with the law.
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Post by iameye on Jan 22, 2013 8:47:37 GMT -5
Much as I wish the truth would be revealed, I don't think this will ever happen. Each person who knows the truth has something to lose. There will be no death bed confessions by insiders who want to protect their surviving family members. Also, those in the know will keep silent to avoid disgrace and maybe trouble with the law. Well, I think it's 100% possible. Not only that, it's gonna be FUN! And if you feel like falling down I'll carry you home |
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Post by iameye on Jan 22, 2013 9:02:14 GMT -5
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Post by il ras on Jan 22, 2013 11:48:37 GMT -5
When I spoke with the guy who was restoring Paul's Aston Martin, he told me that people from Discovery Channel said to him that they were going to make an outstanding “revelation” when Paul will pass away
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 22, 2013 12:52:48 GMT -5
The biggest problem is people don't WANT to know the truth! About anything,lol! Like with 9/11,so many people ask"if 9/11 is an"inside job"why is it a secret?" I always say"it is NOT A SECRET,everybody knows it,they just CAN'T HANDLE the truth as the fake Jack Nicholson is always saying! People have been lied to so long they like the lies! There are people in NIR who know more then they say for that matter.
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Post by iameye on Jan 22, 2013 15:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by multiverser on Jan 22, 2013 20:29:40 GMT -5
The closest we've gotten to the truth so far has been the Heather Mills telly interview in which she is afraid of getting 'topped off.' She's got 'a box of evidence.' So yeah, when I saw that clip I knew we're right about Sir being fake.
It's hard to say if the truth will ever come out. I think the mainstream media is tightly controlled by intelligence agencies. If the intelligence agencies of Britain and the USA are complicit in the coverup, which I think obviously they are, then why would they ever let the truth get out?
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Post by JeremyHBoob on Jan 22, 2013 20:37:19 GMT -5
"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”  |
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Post by iameye on Jan 23, 2013 6:31:50 GMT -5
"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” it really will en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat“Very truly I tell you, before Abraham was born, I Am." - and like a homing bird, I Fly. lol  |
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Post by iameye on Jan 23, 2013 8:31:34 GMT -5
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Post by B on Jan 23, 2013 8:36:58 GMT -5
When I spoke with the guy who was restoring Paul's Aston Martin, he told me that people from Discovery Channel said to him that they were going to make an outstanding “revelation” when Paul will pass away. In other words, never. ;D |
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Post by iameye on Jan 23, 2013 9:04:28 GMT -5
@1:22 feathers, the kaleidoscopic eye, and the gingerbread house, a new point of view  lol |
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