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Post by il ras on Feb 13, 2006 18:49:41 GMT -5
I find this Russian cover of SGT. Pepper. It's not the SGT. pepper/Revolver edition but one containing just the 1st and having on the back of the sleeve the faces of John and Ringo only. The first difference is the drum but that's obvious (Cyrillic anyone??) About the faces: Marx has been changed into someone else and I can understand the reasons... but who's that between E. A. Poe and F. Astaire??? Does someone see any other difference?
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 13, 2006 19:28:20 GMT -5
Weird for sure.
"but who's that between E. A. Poe and F. Astaire???"
Rasputin?
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Post by il ras on Feb 13, 2006 19:35:13 GMT -5
would some one buy it on ebay? It's 30€ plus shipping It's not me the seller. LOL. Send me a pm and I'll give the link
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Post by JoJo on Feb 13, 2006 19:57:54 GMT -5
I'll probably have to pass on buying it, but my first thought was probably it is someone Russian, just figured the original creator of this cover thought it would be a cool thing to do, "Russianize" it.
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Post by il ras on Feb 13, 2006 20:17:39 GMT -5
Let me play a little: what if KGB re-put on something that MI6 took away?
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Post by Doc on Feb 13, 2006 22:46:52 GMT -5
Let me play a little: what if KGB re-put on something that MI6 took away? That's absolutely mad. Er, I mean, "Mad". Sorry. Musn't overlook capital-isms.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 13, 2006 23:01:23 GMT -5
weird, I was thinking of Mad Magazine recently, remember the fold out thing on the back cover..What if..Pepper cover...hmmm..
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Post by beatlies on Feb 13, 2006 23:37:10 GMT -5
The same thing occured to me JoJo with regard to the famous Mad magazine folds, I was reminded of that while looking at the mirror hidden pictures ---I also thought that with the insert of the cut-out Faul/Hitler WWI mustache and Sgt. chevrons etc. they may be strongly suggesting that people should attempt to fold the cover into different shapes or cut and paste in various ways (hearts, clubs, kites? Diamonds?)
Yet the amazing intricacy of the folding Mad back covers is certainly proof that it could not be humanly made and that the universe is just a holographic projection in the minds of the usual gang of idiots.
Maybe we should color photocopy the cover and try cutting and folding ...
MAD fold-in From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The MAD fold-in is a feature found on the inside back cover of every MAD Magazine (except for "20 worst people places and things of " issues, in which it is sometimes found within the pages of the magazine) since it was introduced. Drawn by Al Jaffee, these fold-ins are one of the most well-known aspects of the magazine. The feature was conceived in response to fold-outs in other magazines.
A MAD fold-in consists of a picture with a paragraph of (usually fairly incoherent) text underneath, and a panel across the top with a question, instructions on how to use the fold-in, and a picture illustrating how to use the fold-in. Under the instructions are two arrows labeled 'a' and 'b'. When the paper is folded so that points 'a' and 'b' are touching, the text under the picture becomes the answer to the question, and the picture itself changes to reflect the new text. While a clever gimmick, an experienced reader can almost always tell what the revealed picture and text will be fairly quickly. As a buffer to this, there is sometimes a decoy fold-in: two pieces of an image that look like they will be produced in the fold in, but which are just part of the background.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Feb 18, 2006 23:19:19 GMT -5
weird, I was thinking of Mad Magazine recently, remember the fold out thing on the back cover..What if..Pepper cover...hmmm.. Sounds like something you ought to try JoJo. I remember those fold out things too.... THe only prominent Russians I can think of are Lenin, Stalin and Marx and that's not who is in the picture. Maybe it's Rasputin...works for me...along the lines of a mad monk...
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Post by il ras on Feb 19, 2006 8:09:09 GMT -5
Wasn't Marx German?
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Post by beatlies on Feb 19, 2006 10:12:49 GMT -5
Karl Marx was German-Jewish, born and raised in Germany to a family of Jews that had converted to Protestant Christianity.
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Post by noodles on Feb 19, 2006 14:36:04 GMT -5
He was also a freemason. Alledgedly a Satanist too.
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Post by il ras on Feb 19, 2006 18:46:46 GMT -5
another thing: the cover, with that "guy" next to Poe, seems more complete; why should they leave such a hole in the "normal" cover?
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Post by beatlies on Feb 19, 2006 19:55:01 GMT -5
He was also a freemason. Alledgedly a Satanist too. Sounds absurd. What's the source for those claims?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Feb 19, 2006 22:11:38 GMT -5
I have read that Marx actually got alot of his material for his writings from Albert Pike, a well known freemason and part of the illuminati. He's not the great mind he is given credit for. Plagurism was one of his qualities.
But Marx was prominent in Russian idealism.
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Post by beatlies on Feb 20, 2006 0:43:48 GMT -5
I have read that Marx actually got alot of his material for his writings from Albert Pike, a well known freemason and part of the illuminati. He's not the great mind he is given credit for. Plagurism was one of his qualities. But Marx was prominent in Russian idealism. Marx was neither a plagiarist, nor a freemason, nor a follower of Albert Pike. It's possible you're being misled by wacky right wing and religious anti-Masonic, anti-socialist websites. Marx was a socialist, left wing revolutionary who lived in near-poverty for most of his life. He was a scientist, a materialist, opposed to superstitious thinking and an atheist. He was strongly opposed to secret societies and would probably consider them elitist, bourgeois and feudal conspiracies against the proletariat. Like George Harrison, he was banned from France (after being involved in revolutionary activies in Paris). He moved to Belgium, then in 1849 settled down with his German wife, Jenny, in London. Marxism was adapted by the Russian materialist and revolutionary Vladimir Lenin into Marxism-Leninism: this was the basis for Russia's revolution and formation of a Marxist-Leninist state ---and it did not happen until the twentieth century. Lenin's innovation was the practical creation of a "vanguard" political party of communists that would immediately enact an overthrow of the capitalists, then socialism, then communism where workers ruled. Marx never detailed a practical plan of action, that's where Lenin took up the slack with his Russian communists. Marxist writings said that eventually socialism then communism would come about, but Karl Marx never predicted when or where, because it still historically early, and at the time he wrote Russia was still mostly pre-industrial, pre-labor unions and he did not think it was ready for a workers' overthrow of the czar's state.
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Post by noodles on Feb 20, 2006 14:59:10 GMT -5
I have read that Marx actually got alot of his material for his writings from Albert Pike, a well known freemason and part of the illuminati. He's not the great mind he is given credit for. Plagurism was one of his qualities. But Marx was prominent in Russian idealism. Marx was neither a plagiarist, nor a freemason, nor a follower of Albert Pike. It's possible you're being misled by wacky right wing and religious anti-Masonic, anti-socialist websites. Marx was a socialist, left wing revolutionary who lived in near-poverty for most of his life. He was a scientist, a materialist, opposed to superstitious thinking and an atheist. He was strongly opposed to secret societies and would probably consider them elitist, bourgeois and feudal conspiracies against the proletariat. Like George Harrison, he was banned from France (after being involved in revolutionary activies in Paris). He moved to Belgium, then in 1849 settled down with his German wife, Jenny, in London. Marxism was adapted by the Russian materialist and revolutionary Vladimir Lenin into Marxism-Leninism: this was the basis for Russia's revolution and formation of a Marxist-Leninist state ---and it did not happen until the twentieth century. Lenin's innovation was the practical creation of a "vanguard" political party of communists that would immediately enact an overthrow of the capitalists, then socialism, then communism where workers ruled. Marx never detailed a practical plan of action, that's where Lenin took up the slack with his Russian communists. Marxist writings said that eventually socialism then communism would come about, but Karl Marx never predicted when or where, because it still historically early, and at the time he wrote Russia was still mostly pre-industrial, pre-labor unions and he did not think it was ready for a workers' overthrow of the czar's state. As someone who knows that one of the most famous people on the planet in 1966 was replaced by a lookalike I'm sure you know that what you believe the truth to be isn't always so. I don't want get get into a debate about Marx though, I've read enough to convince me that he was a fraud. Very disapointed to see you use terms like 'wacky right wing and religious anti-Masonic, anti-socialist websites', beatlies. I read wacky 'Paul Was Replaced' websites too.
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Post by il ras on Mar 8, 2006 8:07:24 GMT -5
I don't want to insist with the "Spy vs. Spy" theme, but why did they switch the position of the guys on YS's cover? Without mentioning the other differences
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