[quote author=letterb1 board=general thread=2952 post=37034
time=1199582544]Mindgames wrote:
"(Paul/Faul) must have some kind of social
signifigance/purpose that transcends
mankind other than just being a popular singer!
I bet if I look I'll find some ancient god that equates to him.
lil mop top statue or something."Egg Zacktly!
Long-time secretive advisor to this board, "Apollo C
Vermouth" told us early-on that the
PID/PWR mystery could be understood somewhat in the context of the
mythical story of
Apollo and Hyacinthus:
ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_text_bullfinch_8.htm#_ednApollo%20and%20HyacinthusApollo and Hyacinthus.
Apollo was passionately fond of a youth named Hyacinthus. He
accompanied him in his sports,
carried the nets when he went fishing, led the dogs when he went to
hunt, followed him
in his excursions in the mountains, and neglected for him his lyre
and his arrows.
One day they played a game of quoits together, and Apollo, heaving
aloft the discus,
with strength mingled with skill, sent it high and far. Hyacinthus
watched it as it flew, and excited
with the sport ran forward to seize it, eager to make his throw, when
the quoit bounded
from the earth and struck him in the forehead. He fainted and fell.
The god (Apollo), as pale as himself
(Hyacinthis), raised him and tried all his art
to stanch
the wound and retain the flitting life, but all in vain; the hurt was
past the power of medicine.
As when one has broken the stem of a lily in the garden it hangs its
head and turns its flowers
to the Earth, so the head of the dying boy, as if too heavy for his
neck, fell over on his shoulder.
"Thou diest, Hyacinth," so spoke Phoebus
(Apollo), "robbed of
thy youth by me. Thine is the suffering, mine the crime. Would that I
could die for thee!
But since that may not be, thou shalt live with me in memory and in song.
My lyre shall celebrate thee, my song shall tell thy fate, and
thou shalt become a flower
inscribed with my regrets." While Apollo spoke, behold the blood
which had flowed on the ground
and stained the herbage ceased to be blood; but a flower of hue more
beautiful than the Tyrian
sprang up, resembling the lily, if it were not that this is purple
and that silvery white.*
And this was not enough for Phoebus (Apollo);
but to confer still
greater honour, he marked the petals with his sorrow, and inscribed
"Ah! ah!" upon them,
as we see to this day. The flower bears the name of Hyacinthus, and
with every returning Spring
revives the memory of his fate.
* It is evidently not our modern hyacinth that is here described. It
is perhaps some species of iris, or perhaps of larkspur or pansy.
It was said that Zephyrus (the West wind), who was also fond of
Hyacinthus, and jealous of
his preference of Apollo, blew the quoit out of its course to make it
strike Hyacinthus.
Keats alludes to this in his "Endymion," where he describes
the lookers-on at the game of quoits:
"Or they might watch the quoit-pitchers, intent
On either side, pitying the sad death
Of Hyacinthus, when the cruel breath
Of Zephyr slew him; Zephyr (now)penitent,
Who now ere Phoebus mounts the firmament,
Fondles the flower amid the sobbing rain."
An allusion to Hyacinthus will also be recognized in Milton's
"Lycidas":
"Like to that sanguine flower inscribed with woe." -------------------------------------------------------------------
So it would seem that in this account, Apollo could be in the role of
John, telling of Paul's (Hyacinthis's)
fate in his music. Faul is the repentent Zephyrus, also telling the
story in his material.
But overall the character "Paul" might be better understood
as a human incarnation of Apollo:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo"Apollo has been variously recognized as a god of light and the
sun; truth and prophecy;
archery; medicine and healing; music, poetry, and the arts; and more.
Apollo is son of Zeus and Leto, and
has a twin
sister[/u], the chaste huntress Artemis...."
"...As the patron of Delphi (Pythian Apollo), Apollo was
an
oracular god - the prophetic
deity of the Delphic Oracle.
(Please notice this
little bit of info. LB)Medicine and healing were associated with Apollo, whether through the
god himself
or mediated through his son Asclepius. Apollo was also seen as a god
who could bring ill-health
and deadly plague as well as one who had the ability to cure.
Amongst the god's custodial charges, Apollo became associated with
dominion over
colonists,
and as the patron defender of herds and flocks.
As the leader of the Muses (Apollon Musagetes) and director of their
choir,
Apollo functioned
as the patron god of music and poetry. Hermes created the lyre
(think guitar!) for him,
and the instrument became a common attribute of Apollo..."
In Hellenistic times, especially during the third century BCE, as
Apollo Helios he became identified among Greeks with Helios, god of
the sun, and his sister Artemis similarly
equated with Selene, goddess of
the
moon[/b]...."
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There are other significant aspects to Apollo in the wikipedia article:
Apollo was born "on an island", but one not of Earth:
"When Hera discovered that Leto
(Apollo's
mother) was pregnant and that
Zeus was the father, she banned Leto from giving birth on "terra
firma", or the mainland, or any island.
In her wanderings, Leto found the newly created floating island of
Delos, which was neither
mainland nor a real island, and she gave birth there. The island was
surrounded by swans.
Afterwards, Zeus secured Delos to the bottom of the ocean. This
island later became sacred to Apollo."
"Be at Leso" (Leto), perhaps? An "Octopus's
Garden" in any event.
The part about Admetus in the wikipedia article about Apollo is worth
looking at with regard to
the meaning of a lightning bolt, and: "Marsyas was a satyr who
challenged Apollo to a contest
of music" who found that nobody else was in his tree.
Also notable:
"It was also said that Apollo rode on the back of a swan to
the land of the Hyperboreans
during the winter months, a swan that he also lent to his beloved
Hyacinthus to ride."So we've covered the Apollo connections, and I haven't even mentioned
the Egyptian deities
that Iamaphoney and others allude to; particularly Osiris and Set, and
the avenging Horus.
I think the "mop top statue" shows up in one of the Iaap videos.
"Spirits of Ancient Egypt" fer sure:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qupKSFN70kc--------------------------------------------
And last but not least, there's a rivalry of Faul and Paul connection
as well, with Faul
being the "evil twin" who later 'came around' due to his
loving (but now deceased) wife, only
to be revisisted by Heather 'Lilith' Mills or something.
So, yeah. You're kinda in the ball park with that one. Shea stadium to
be exact. ;D
With a bases loaded home run.
Hyacinthis
sadly, in the dirt
"evil" twin / Zephyr
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Great post, B.
One other interesting Apollo connection:
"Apollo was the son of Zeus and Leto and the twin of Artemis (Diana in
Roman mythology). He was
born under a PALM tree on the Aegean island of Delos, which became a major centre of Apollo's cult worshippers."
www.lilithgallery.com/library/greek/Apollo.htmlMaybe like this
"PALM" tree?