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Post by beatlies on Oct 10, 2005 15:31:47 GMT -5
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Any ideas? This might get moved to "Clues" but this clue(s) seems to stand apart in such a way that it belongs at the top of the forum, it's just too strange ...
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Post by JoJo on Oct 10, 2005 16:51:24 GMT -5
It did come up before on this Thread.It is the walrus, right in the middle of the page. I always thought the nose was incorporating the square and compass, not real obvious about it.. Doll's head gobbled up?
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Post by -Wings- on Oct 10, 2005 18:57:54 GMT -5
It just begs the question as to what it really means to be 'the walrus.' I don't think we've ever come to a true conclusion about that. Yes, the walrus is Paul, and it's a vital symbol to this whole thing, but why?
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Post by Doc on Oct 13, 2005 21:33:58 GMT -5
Well, and there is such a thing as death as a medical technicality. I've known a man, we'll call him Mr. L, climbed a mountain 6 months ago with his fiancé. On the way back down, he went into a heart attack. As they approached their parked SUV, he collapsed on the spot and died. She performed emergency CPR, which she had experience in doing. He revived after a while , and she driving, got them to the hospital down in the valley. Sparing all the rest of the details of the ordeal, let me say that he is OK today and after some catheterization, in better shape than ever, cardiac wise.(Actually, he had virtually no evidence of plaque build-up. The arrest was caused by a blood clot that broke free and travelled into a critical artery.) Anyway, the cardiac tests revealed that he had been, according to medical results, dead for a minute or so. Wirth this, I point to the discussion of Paul dying and the clues. No clue ever pointed to the idea that Paul wasn't resusitated. Certain clues, for many of us, seem to signal a death event. Or, a "near-death" event. So, walrus(morse, death), followed by being revived in not out of the question. The walrus WAS Paul, not IS Paul. Was dead, not IS dead. Well, these two clues get in the way: On the end of Rev9, "Oh, untimely death,", but then, that's the victim verbalizing his dread of the possibility of dying in the play, I believe. I better check that out , but I think that is the case. In other words, "Crap, I don't wanna die now, I'm too young!" The other one is "I.........buried.....Paul". That's a little harder to explain away, but, I'll try come up with something. Maybe it was a symbolic burial of some sort. The other thing is......well, in order to say, "prepare a double" for someone, it seems implicit that the person being "doubled" still be alive. Then one is "doubling" FOR somebody. Isn't one major rationale for having doubles is for protection of an important living party? Otherwise, the language, IMO, might just be "replacing." John's album used the word "double" in 1980. Maybe I'm just indulging some semantics; splitting hairs. Maybe the terminology is neutral to the condition of the doubled.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 16, 2005 22:45:31 GMT -5
I find it interesting that JoJo made reference to the nose looking like a compass and square, a symbol of freemasonry. I also noticed the comment on the doll without a head....JPM was decapitated... Somewhere I read something that a common "death" by freemasons was decapitating the victim.
Hmmmmjust an interesting observation
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Post by plastic paul on Dec 17, 2005 18:50:14 GMT -5
Well that walrus also creates a headless, limbless torso so if that is "the" walrus and it is indeed Paul, then "the walrus was paul" means he is the above "headless, limbless torso", ie. A dead man, miss him miss him miss him.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 17, 2005 23:50:57 GMT -5
sadly so true...even in the album covers tell the story, although when the story first came out in 69 they tried to make it a joke...but who's laughing?
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Post by lili on Dec 19, 2005 14:14:22 GMT -5
I know I'm not
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