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Post by il ras on Jan 17, 2006 17:26:31 GMT -5
I found this on Getty site  Original pic (better quality): editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=3137526&cdi=0As they say it has been taken on November, 24 1966, I thought it was quite interesting. Must be said that this site is not 100% reliable concerning dates but, from the other side, it's written everywhere that Strawberry fields has been recorded on that day. |
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 17, 2006 20:09:32 GMT -5
Great find!
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Post by -Wings- on Jan 17, 2006 21:57:02 GMT -5
It's one of the earliest, but I believe the first glimpses we got of him were during Mal Evan's home videos in early November.
Still, this is a great picture (he was following John Lennon here, as there's another photo elsehwere of John entering the building with Bill in the distance) because you can see how plastic he looked. His cheeks also look artificially enlarged. I'm not one to agree with Sun King, but I will concur that it looks as if they occasionally tried to inject something in his cheeks when he was in public to give him the rounded face of Paul.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 17, 2006 23:58:55 GMT -5
His face does look rather "bloated" there in the cheek area. Some sort of injection. Didn't know that they had botox back then.
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Post by il ras on Jan 18, 2006 1:37:51 GMT -5
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Post by -Wings- on Jan 18, 2006 2:30:16 GMT -5
Honestly, I wonder if they weren't just stuffing cotton balls in his mouth.
It's a practice they didn't keep up, but I suppose it was essential in those first few months to make sure the transition from Paul to Bill was a gradual one.
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 18, 2006 8:11:07 GMT -5
Good spot  |
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Post by lili on Jan 18, 2006 10:41:25 GMT -5
Great find ! Bill's cheeks look really shiny. I would have to concur that it was done with some kind of injection. He looks like a chipmunk  |
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Post by sistermaryabbey on Jan 18, 2006 16:07:18 GMT -5
He does rather look like a chipmunk with his cheeks full of nuts ;D
If they had Botox then, it had to be relatively new and maybe they were experiementing with the amount to inject. Also they had to make Bill look like Paul as quickly as possible.
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Post by il ras on Jan 18, 2006 18:09:28 GMT -5
In the Lennon's pic, it's me or the guy that is waiting for Bill has a familiar head shape?
Ok, ok I know it's NOT possible... but who could he be? can someone zoom in that area of the photo, keeping a good quality?
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Post by beatlies on Jan 18, 2006 18:14:41 GMT -5
He does rather look like a chipmunk with his cheeks full of nuts ;D If they had Botox then, it had to be relatively new and maybe they were experiementing with the amount to inject. Also they had to make Bill look like Paul as quickly as possible. They didn't have botox at that time, however they could have implanted bags in his cheeks that filled up with injections and were siphoned or evaporated through porous membranes, perhaps ... possibly (?) |
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 18, 2006 19:35:00 GMT -5
In the Lennon's pic, it's me or the guy that is waiting for Bill has a familiar head shape? Ok, ok I know it's NOT possible... but who could he be? can someone zoom in that area of the photo, keeping a good quality? As I was hinting when I quoted you before, that is a great spot ilras, but it can't be "him" because, lets not forget there were journalists about, and this couldn't go unnoticed or uncovered! On closer inspection I think it's Neil Aspinall, and I mean Neil Aspinall, not anyone dressed like him, or his double or whatever! ;D |
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 18, 2006 21:00:52 GMT -5
I agree. It looks like Neil.
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Post by lili on Jan 19, 2006 13:33:35 GMT -5
I have to say ( & you can't imagine how much it pains me to say this ) that it really does look like Paul. But, how COULD that be ?
As previously stated, there were journalists all over the place. How could they explain TWO Paul McCartneys ! Not only that, but I'm sure that would've made the news at the time. I highly doubt that they could've covered that up.
If that is Neil, then he was made up to look like Paul. His hair style is identical to Paul's at the time of his death. I personally feel that Neil would've been a better choice cosmetically. He had the same basic head shape, face shape, forehead size & height that Paul did. He must've been used as a stand-in at times until Bill was ready. If this was Bill's 1st public appearance, that would make total sense.
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 19, 2006 19:21:37 GMT -5
From behind yes, but without excessive surgery (which would mean, you know what) he couldn't be a "facial" JPM stand in, IMO it's definitely Neil, you can just about tell from the profile.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 19, 2006 19:54:10 GMT -5
I personally feel that Neil would've been a better choice cosmetically. He had the same basic head shape, face shape, forehead size & height that Paul did. Neil's face was more long where Paul's face and head were round. |
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Post by -Wings- on Jan 19, 2006 21:26:11 GMT -5
And if they used Neil, then the question would arise of "Hey? Where's Neil?"
Better for it to be somebody on the outside, a virtual nobody would couldn't be traced back.
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Post by il ras on Jan 20, 2006 2:22:41 GMT -5
I don't think they ever used Neil as a replacement...
Anyway, he's using his right hand to carry the guitar (just a note...)
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Post by Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) on Jan 21, 2006 23:16:56 GMT -5
lili and SMA....from now on, we'll refer to Bill as "Chip". Someone posted they stuffed cotton balls in his cheek, I think they stuffed them in Bill's head instead of brains. Ummm, why do you hate him so much? You seem to take it all so personally. Is there a reason for that? I'm confused about your direct shots at him. You don't really hate Macca.. do you?!  |
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Post by lili on Jan 23, 2006 10:21:55 GMT -5
lili and SMA....from now on, we'll refer to Bill as "Chip". Someone posted they stuffed cotton balls in his cheek, I think they stuffed them in Bill's head instead of brains. Rita, you & SMA are DEFINITELY on the same page as far as Bill is concerned. Me, well, I'm less likely to go for the jugular. It's just not my nature, is all  |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 26, 2006 22:12:59 GMT -5
I thought I posted something on this, but maybe I didn't hit the "post" button.
I don't hate Bill, I hate the deception, not just on his part, but all who are responsible for the death of Paul and this entire replacement business regarding the Beatles. And seeing what it did to John and George and how it affected the fans who regard this PID PWR situation.
I don't know if Bill was a victim of mind control or if he was an agent to stand in for JPM occasionally and then took the permanent job when JPM was killed, but it's a sad situation regardless.
Be it greed, lust for fame and power, or what have you, the entire scenario is sad and Bill is just part of the big web.
Again, sorry to say Bill needed cotton balls for brains and have it upset you folks. Didn't mean any harm. So I retracted that post.
Forgive me those of you who are Macca fans. Didn't mean to cause any problems.
As John once sang, "Give Peace a chance."
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Post by lili on Jan 27, 2006 12:36:26 GMT -5
A can understand where you're coming from, I really can.
I also just want the truth to come out. So that everyone who has been, or is being, affected by it can go on with their lives.
And so that those who are dead because of it, can finally rest in peace.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 27, 2006 19:00:22 GMT -5
Yes, rest in peace....
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