The weirdest pic of Faul i've ever seen

[eggy]

Personally this is the weirdest Fauls pic i've ever seen, and i have to confess that sometimes its hard for me to take a look at it, he looks really awful

[eyesbleed]

AGREED!

Considering the fact that I just got in from margarita happy hour, I'll bite my tongue & refrain from the spewin' rant that was my first response to that picture.

[Doc]

That doesn't look right------------what's happening? (Rubs eyes)
From where does this photo come?That seems like a different Bill------I can't tell anymore. His face seems much fuller.

[FlamingPie]

Maybe it was flipped...

[Doc]

Parting of hair-----John's is on, is it, left side of face? Then John is correct. Unless the picture of John was flipped that Bill is holding, in which case that would right it, and make Bill be flipped. It may be flipped.

Wedding band------right hand.

Part, right side.

Is the left hand making a letter of deaf sign language?
Is it pointing to John?
Or, is it just a comfortable grasp for the nearly square frame, which is a thing unto itself. Most are rectangular.

[FlamingPie]

No, it wasn't wasn't flipped. His left eye bulges out on the top more than the other, so it wasn't flipped.

It's pictures like these that make me have second thoughts.

[Doc]

You mean, second thoughts, it must be Paul?

[FlamingPie]

I'm mostly skeptic, but this guy barley looks like Paul, so I can see all the beliver's point of view. I wonder if Paul was replaced. That's what I meant by second thoughts. I don't know, I'm always going back and forth.

[Doc]

Your desktop has the same forehead impression in it that mine does.

Well, and I the same. I mean, as I peruse the boards, I mostly think, well, yes, I strongly think he was replaced. And the, every now and then I see a post or pic or factoid and think,"No, how absurd. I am a nutcase. Impossible. Its all trick photography."
But then, I see another idea, and well, back to the swap theory.

Maybe living in dichotomy is just what I need.The odd, lingering thing that flashes in my head every so often is, ....and Geoff Emerick? Maybe (if there was a trade off) he just couldn't tell.
If there was a trade, the realization HAS to be, that for a number of aquaintances and associates, that they simply COULD NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

This puts the "bar" for the replacements trainability at a very high level.

Also, the odd of finding a man that was already a musician, to a sufficient or high level, who could capture nuances of mannerisms and personality, that could effect a suitably similar vocal, who was deemed by surgeons as a viable subject in face and form, who could memorize life details, and confidently make public appearences, while never reverting or slipping-----------this is enough to make most people say that PWR is implausible.

In part, could it be because MOST people couldn't accomplish even PART of that? (Even with help.)

And how to find this one in a million man with mere weeks time, get him reasonably altered and prepared, and NOT screw up and give it all away prematuraly?

Rational, adult, American minds don't buy all that. They are OK with Bigfoot, the Easter Bunny, the landings on the moon, Roswell 1947, building the Chunnel,the size of the National Debt, the JFK mystery, and for cryin' out loud "American Idol"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The lesson from above? Everything listed above has in common having been presented in the media with this sentiment :

"Simon Says."

[JoJo]

Also, the odd of finding a man that was already a musician, to a sufficient or high level, who could capture nuances of mannerisms and personality, that could effect a suitably similar vocal, who was deemed by surgeons as a viable subject in face and form, who could memorize life details, and confidently make public appearences, while never reverting or slipping-----------this is enough to make most people say that PWR is implausible.

Agreed, very well stated. It does seem almost impossible. Well, priority number one would have to be finding that man with the strong memory and who could imitate all the subtle manerisms as you said. Not to mention having nerves of steel not to just blow it at the Apple press conference. Such a man would have more confidence in himself than most people could even imagine. Seems like he would have a big ego.

Priority number two would be the face that provides a good starting point. An indentical twin would have been nice, and there may have even some around, but none that would include priority number one most likely. So they "settled" with Bill. As the Africa trip stills show, they hardly had a "doppleganger" here.

The last priority would be to find someone with at least some musical skill, and then train train train as much as they could. They had plenty of time for this one, no public appearances anymore, and the promo videos went to lip synching only starting with Strawberry Fields. Actually, not one of them opened their mouths to even pretend to sing in that one. Well, the earlier promos were lip synched too, but they simply played the songs as they would on stage, keeping time with the studio versions. Hey Jude appears to be live, but so does All You Need Is Love, so who knows. If you discount Hey Jude, then the first "not behind closed doors" appearance would be in Let It Be. Could have been when it dawned on him, hey I can be on my own now, wow...

[eyesbleed]

JoJo said:

Agreed, very well stated. It does seem almost impossible. Well, priority number one would have to be finding that man with the strong memory and who could imitate all the subtle manerisms as you said. Not to mention having nerves of steel not to just blow it at the Apple press conference. Such a man would have more confidence in himself than most people could even imagine. Seems like he would have a big ego.
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It's easy to understand how folks can think this is all pretty impossible.
Add on the extended family questions, & all the other people who'd have to know....
And they pulled this off for 3yrs with most everybody remaining totally oblivious to the switch.
Yep... I'd say that sounds very impossible.

Truth is always stranger than fiction.!

[eyesbleed]

Flaming said:

I'm mostly skeptic, but this guy barley looks like Paul, so I can see all the beliver's point of view. I wonder if Paul was replaced. That's what I meant by second thoughts. I don't know, I'm always going back and forth.

Hey... good post. It's good to see these weird pics work both ways.
As convinced as I am of this switch, there's always that occational pic that leaves me wonderin' ... what the hell's goin' on here?

[lj]

eyesbleed said:

Truth is always stranger than fiction.!

and that has to be the biggest truth i've heard in a looooong time. ;D ;D

[lj]

JoJo said:

...Well, priority number one would have to be finding that man with the strong memory and who could imitate all the subtle manerisms as you said. Not to mention having nerves of steel not to just blow it at the Apple press conference. Such a man would have more confidence in himself than most people could even imagine. Seems like he would have a big ego.

i would say that one of the most important things (if not the most) is that one precisely. that would make bill look pretty "trained" for the job, if you think about it. almost like "programmed". i'm not much into those kind of theories, but i'm sure someone must have mentioned something like that somewhere, right?


d***it my bad spelling...

[JoJo]

Yeah, programmed or mind controlled is going out on a limb, but perhaps he would have gladly consented to extra "special" training that would help him out at his new job. Would hypnosis help, especially if the person was willing to make an effort on his part voluntarily?


d***it my bad spelling... ...me too, haha

[madtitan125]

Hi Everyone!

If you ever catch yourself in a moment of self-doubt, just zip on over to:
Beatles Ultimate Experience: The Beatles Interview Database
www.geocities.com/~beatleboy1/db.menu.html
and compare the photos posted of “Paul” from

• 8/28/66 Beatles / Los Angeles and
• 12/20/66 Beatles / Abbey Road Studios.

That should clear things up pretty quick.

If I knew how to post pix on a string, I’d do it. Anyone? Bye for now.

[FlamingPie]

I just saw #6 of the anthology, (rented it yesterday) and I'm pretty sure that we've discussed this before, but that pic is very misleading (the later one). It looks nothing like the (PF)aul I saw tonight, because of that pic's low quality, and the expresion.

[FlamingPie]

Here's a better one:

[madtitan125]

Misleading? In what way? That's a legitimate picture!

[FlamingPie]

Because the quality is so bad, plus the expresion of the eyes and mouth. And the first one wasn't so good either - it looks like Paul didn't have a nose.

[madtitan125]

I know this isn't supposed to be an online computer tutorial, but could someone briefly explain how to post pictures on a string?

I'm going to change my profile so my e-mail address isn't hidden anymore. If one of you kind gents (or ladies) could explain, I'd be appreciative!

There's another photo that always sticks out: If you check out Uberkinder's site, he has a picture titled
"Paulchincountry" (or something like that).

If you compare the head shape and eye spacing from that pic with Paul 1966 and before, things just don't line up.

Compare also the Paul profile pix posted. Faul's forehead size and head shape are completely different.

Bye for now.

[FlamingPie]

madtitan125 said:

If you check out Uberkinder's site, he has a picture titled
"Paulchincountry" (or something like that).

I don't think his site exits anymore. Anyway, I think that people think he looks different there mostly because of the moustache. I can't edit out the moustache on my way to simple "paint" program, so I pasted part of another pic on. Who does it look like now?

[madtitan125]

Ha ha! That's pretty good! I have to admit that kinda does look like Paul.

I still can't come up with an explanation for why his eyes changed shape, color & moved closer together. Not to mention eyelashes..

I wish I was as good with graphics as some of you are so we could do some kind of "hair morph".

Maybe I'm crazy, but I can never mentally get JP's hair on Faul. I don't think it would fit on his tall head.

That's one of my major sticking points: the difference in forehead size, his hair part and head shape.

There's a post somewhere around here that shows Paul's and Faul's profiles. To me, these pix demonstrate a big difference in head shape.

[madtitan125]

Couldn't find the Uberkinder site either, at first, but here's the address:

uberkinder.5u.com/paul/

It's called Index of Paul now, and is just a bunch of pix.
No more "Undeniable Evidence" claims. I don't know if any of the evidence would stand up in a court of law, but it's pretty convincing to me.

Anyway, check out the "Faulchincountry" photo and try to compare that with James Paul's head shape. Could they be the same guy?

[Doc]

Well, again, I still am never sure, I feel it is possible either way---but it isn't just one or two photographs that imply a switch. There is a general shift in the look of Paul , in a seemingly major way, in a short span of time. Of course, that can happen to a person for many reasons.