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Post by Doc on Aug 20, 2006 5:03:05 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting, and i teensy bit conspicuous, that later Paul McCartney adapted so quickly and naturally to living on a sheepherder farm in Scotland? From his reported Liverpool/middle class/city living enviroment, and nothing I can find of Jim or Mary indicates "farm people" to me..... And suddenly, there is Paul riding horses, raising sheep, working the land, living the hard life with Linda on the ranch. How many videos depict William and Linda and Wings riding horses, or sheep braying in the background, or similar? Just because we never saw that in John, George, or Ringo......... I hear the theme to "The Big Valley", or "The Marlboro Man" cranking up as the three camera technicolor system pans slowly across the open prairies of............Scotland..........and at last we see distant silhouettes of Paul and Linda galloping atop a pair of white Arabian stalions, both wearing brimmed Stetsons and tall boots WITH spurs.................no, make it the theme to "The Magnificent Seven." This is so NOT the guy that rock and rolled his way thru "I Saw Her Standing There"....... Just an opinion. You never know with people. He could'a been a closet cowboy. James Paul. I did NOT say "closeted"............we're discussing two straight guys here........ but maybe JPM secretly dreamed of the farm/ranch life. You never know who wants to live out in the open. www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fmzgTVRKbA |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 20, 2006 19:39:28 GMT -5
Well, Bill had a minor hit with "Jr's Farm".....
Interesting point Doc, it does seem a bit odd that Liverpool, a port city is far from anything "farm", or "western". Yet Bill looked so well adjusted as a farmer/shepherder/rancher of organic vegetarianism. And he seemed to look more relaxed and like himself with the longer hair and beard. I guess some referred to him as the "Mountain Man" look. Does this make sense? Bill looked better "hairier" than JPM. Imaging the true JPM with longer hair and a beard absurd.
JPM is remembered clean cut, while we have images of Bill clean cut, with and without a mustache as well as with a full beard.
JPM seemed more urban type, while Bill is more rural.
I too don't recall any "farm" life even for a young JPM as a youth going to someone's farm for visits. In all the material I had read over the years, nothing farm friendly, organic or vegetarian.
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Post by lili on Aug 21, 2006 9:27:23 GMT -5
Paul was really into Westerns. I know that he greatly admired cowboys. I wouldn't be surprised if he expected all Americans to be carrying guns somewhere on their persons. However, that does not mean that he would give up city life to live on a farm the way that Bill did ( aka Green Acres ). I think that Doc has made a very valid observation here.  |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 21, 2006 13:59:10 GMT -5
I can see Bill singing Green Acres, and Heather being like Eva Gabor, wanting to wear big jewels and go shopping with Bill's cash.  Somewhere in the background the song "Money" by Pink Floyd is playing to a sad red nosed little man sipping his lemonade...where the sun shines...and waiting for the van to come...Somewhere in his smile he knows that he could have no other lover....somewhere over the rainbow, someone waits for him, tiptoeing through the tulips, to see how the other half lives, looking through a glass onion, eating a yellow submarine sandwich, looking for a ray of sunshine, day after day, alone on a hill, the man with a stupid grin is keeping perfectly still, Bill and his elephants were taken by disguise, if looks could kill it would have been us instead of him....all the children sing.. Hey bungalow Bill, Heather's a witch, and always will Hey bungalow Bill, Heather's a witch, and she always will She never listens to him, she knows that he's a fool She don't like him the witch on the hill sees the sun going down and the eyes in her head is kept on Bill's magic stash Maybe that's part of the reason they couldn't stay together, He's a little bit country and she's a little rockin' troll..  |
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Post by noodles on Aug 21, 2006 14:09:43 GMT -5
I don't think the temporary (LSD Paul) replacement is American but I'm very convinced that Let It Be Paul is from some remote part of the US maybe the 'black mining hills of Dakota'. His whole persona in the Let It Be movie is very American. His style of music is very American too. His first track seems to be 'Lady Madonna' and he seems to do the bulk of the 'Paul' tracks on the 'White Album' certainly 'Back In The USSR', 'Helter Skelter', 'Birthday', 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road', etc. The more English sounding songs sound very much like a different vocalist. 'Why Don't We Do It' is a very obvious giveaway that they've switched vocalists. No one has the vocal range, control and power of LIB Paul. He tears it up on that track and sounds nothing like Paul McCartney. He's barely even trying in fact I wonder if this was his true voice and his one chance to shine and be who he really was. LIB Paul dresses very American with those wide neck button up vest tops, frilly Country and Western shirts and even one of those garish C&W suits. A pink one too.  Plus his wife was American. And he spent much time living there even moving to Tucson, Arizona where Linda lived with her first husband. In fact for a while I was wonder if LIB Paul was Linda's first husband which I wouldn't rule out but I suspect probably wasn't the case. I think he came from farming/ranching background but was a skilled musician singer and songwriter. I think he probably moved to New York to see if he could make it as a musician. I think he started dating Linda there and at some point was spotted as being a possible replacement for Paul McCartney. I suspect he looked pretty close but obviously needed a lot of surgery still, was left handed and could already play guitar, bass, piano plus drums, etc. He's a natural mimic so the accent wasn't too much of a problem. I think he spent at least a year locked up somewhere learning to be Paul and then was used sporadically throughgout 1968 before become a permanent member of the Beatles in 1969.    |
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Post by lili on Aug 22, 2006 11:16:46 GMT -5
There's a resemblance to Paul, but that's about it. Bill's a much bigger man, & his features don't exactly match up. Bill   Paul Bill   Paul Bill   Paul Bill   Paul |
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Post by fourthousandholes on Sept 8, 2006 20:48:20 GMT -5
What happens when city-slicker rock musicians and US presidents become farmers: ;D
THE FARM
Jefferson Airplane
Bought myself a farm way out in the country
Took to growin lettuce milkin cows and honey
Bought myself a farm (way out in the country)
Bought myself a farm way out in the country
Spent time in the hayloft with the mice and the bunnies
Spent time in the country
Yes it's good livin on the farm
Ah so good livin on the farm
Yes it's good livin on the farm
Here comes my next door neighbour comin down the road
He always looks so regal ridin on his toad named Lightnin
The toad's name is Lightnin he's ten hands at the shoulder
And if you give him sugar you know he'll whinny like a boulder
Yes he will
Well I gotta get back to work now and clear away some logs
Ah the sun is shinin westwards
yeah I think I'll saddle up my frog and get outta here!
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Sept 8, 2006 21:36:58 GMT -5
Didn't Canned Heat have a hit with "Goin' Up to the Country"? They used that song in the opening of "Woodstock".
Maybe Bill was at Woodstock..incognito....among a half a million muddy hippies....love, peace and 3 days of music...
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Post by -Wings- on Sept 8, 2006 23:19:13 GMT -5
I've been considering for awhile that Bill may have been a country boy. After all, at the end of Junior's Farm he bellows "take me back... I want to go back."
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Post by DarkHorse on Sept 9, 2006 10:50:06 GMT -5
This is where Bill is from: Black Island Ontario  |
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Post by il ras on Sept 9, 2006 11:14:16 GMT -5
DH, did I miss something?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Sept 9, 2006 14:20:00 GMT -5
Or at the end of Cry, Baby, Cry,
can you take me back where I came from, can you take me back?
I was reminded of John Denver's "Thank God I'm a Country Boy....."
While it's more believable that John Denver was actually a country boy, it's hard to translate that "Bill" was a country boy....sitting in the mountains...but then I'm reminded "Mother Nature's Son"...find me in a field of grass....swaying daisies....sit beside a mountain stream see her water's rise.....Well...sounds like Bill was thinking about the "mountains".....All day long I'm sitting singing songs for everyone....Maybe Bill is that "mountain man" that someone referred to...but does being a "mountain man" qualify "farm life"? Unless he had a farm on a mountain...
...then I'm reminded of the story Heidi, and I remember seeing a version with Shirley Temple...and that reminds me of Sgt. Pepper cover....
Where am I going with this? Mountain man? Farmer boy....he's an outdoor kinda guy...
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Post by fourthousandholes on Sept 9, 2006 17:00:19 GMT -5
A little off topic, but I was looking at these Faul lyrics:
"I Was Thinking About That Summer So Long Ago
Pack Up Your Bags And Yell "Geronimo".
That Was A Golden Summer, Laughed A Lot.
Laughing At The Good Times Coming,
Laughing At The Good Times Coming In."
Well I know IN THE STATES as kids we always used to yell "Geronimo"
when running off the high-dive, etc.
but do they do that in England?
That seems to me to be a very "American" thing to do, but I may be wrong.
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Post by DarkHorse on Sept 9, 2006 17:51:31 GMT -5
That seems to me to be a very "American" thing to do, but I may be wrong. Or a Canadian. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Sept 10, 2006 16:37:18 GMT -5
Someone on another thread had mentioned Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" and mentioning about replacement...but for this particular thread, there were a couple of references to "should've stayed on the farm"....." goin' back to my plow"....
If this song is about Bill, these bits may add to the mystique of this song as being possibly about him.
Now, yelling "Geronimo"....as falling out of a plane or off a cliff?
Hmmm, just thinking on that aspect....
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Plus his wife was American. And he spent much time living there even moving to Tucson, Arizona where Linda lived with her first husband. In fact for a while I was wonder if LIB Paul was Linda's first husband which I wouldn't rule out but I suspect probably wasn't the case.
