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Post by Maracuja on Jun 1, 2005 14:03:31 GMT -5
I said to a friend that I could never imagine myself giving up my identity to assume someone else's. How sad I would feel to put myself on a shelf, ignore my individuality, and pretend I never existed! I cannot visualize living in the "skin" of another person. Perhaps I have a huge ego, but it would impossible for me to forget the being that I am and pretend I didn't exist. I suppose the only way I would do it is if my life or the life of a loved one was threatened. I often think of Faul and feel sadness for him. Whoever he is, it must be difficult to be someone else. I am sure he must feel the need sometimes (a need in all of us) to present who he is to the world. It's sad that he can't.
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Post by Red Lion on Jun 1, 2005 15:26:28 GMT -5
Out of college, money spent
See no future, pay no rent
All the money's gone, nowhere to go
Any jobber got the sack
Monday morning, turning back
Yellow lorry slow, nowhere to go
But oh, that magic feeling, nowhere to go
Oh, that magic feeling, nowhere to go
Nowhere to go
One sweet dream
Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe that tear away
One sweet dream came true today
Came true today
Came true today (Yes it did)
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Post by -Wings- on Jun 4, 2005 0:02:51 GMT -5
The Tug of War album contains two songs that I think also sum up "why."
Light Out Wanderlust
Head Us Out To Sea
Captain Says There'll Be A Bust
This One's Not For Me
Take Us From The Dark
Out Where We Can See
Captain's Out To Make His Mark
This One's Not For Me
Light Out Wanderlust
Help Us To Be Free
Light Out Wanderlust
Do It Just For Me
Wanderlust
Oh Where Did I Go Wrong My Love?
What Petty Grime Was I Found Guilty Of?
What Better Time To Find A Brand New Day?
Oh - Wanderlust Away
And then....
The one you wanted to be
Is now the one you see.
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Post by Maracuja on Jun 4, 2005 15:42:57 GMT -5
Thank you RedLion so much for the reply. I did listen to the song and it made sense to me. But it is still sad, I think.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 4, 2005 16:18:19 GMT -5
Yeah I never thought about YNGMYM too much, but the lyrics are very interesting. So this must mean Bill was a policeman who was also struggling to make ends meet.
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Post by Red Lion on Jun 4, 2005 23:43:08 GMT -5
Yeah I never thought about YNGMYM too much, but the lyrics are very interesting. So does this mean Bill was a policeman who was also struggling to make ends meet? Great question. We have the O.P.P. patch, the lyrics in "she came in thru the bathroom window", and John's comment on the "tonight show" to support that possibility. On the other hand we have potential indicators that he was Billy Pepper from the Pepperpots band. In my mind its seems contradictory that he could be a Canadian policeman and be in a Merseyside band in England all at once. Unless he quit the former to do the latter and moved across the pond? Thank you RedLion so much for the reply. I did listen to the song and it made sense to me. But it is still sad, I think. YW. Bill was compensated quite nicely filling in for JPM. In addition to fame and fortune he also got an opportunity for a solo career in which he could express himself. Maybe not so sad when you look at it from that point of view. |
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Post by -Wings- on Jun 5, 2005 4:03:38 GMT -5
I really don't see any resemblance in that "Billy Pepper" guy to the person on the White Album poster. I'm much more inclined to lean towards the struggling Canadian musician slumming it as a police officer theory, since there's so many clues that back it up.
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Post by Red Lion on Jun 5, 2005 13:25:52 GMT -5
I really don't see any resemblance in that "Billy Pepper" guy to the person on the White Album poster. I'm much more inclined to lean towards the struggling Canadian musician slumming it as a police officer theory, since there's so many clues that back it up. You are correct that the resemblance is nil, but the picture quality is poor at best. The O.P.P. theory is the strongest, I agree. I dont think, with all of the coincidences however, that the Pepperpots should be entirely dismissed. |
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Post by Doc on Jun 5, 2005 19:54:59 GMT -5
A man can do a lot and go a lot of places in 8 or 9 years. If William left school between 19 and 22---and if he was indeed 30 at the time of the "Fair Isle sweater" comment in MMT, he could have done 4 years in the military, a stint kicking around various places in pursuit of a music career, and even a year or so as a rookie policeman. Could someone achieve the rank of sargeant in 2 or 3 years? Maybe that, too.
No doubts that Billy was the ambitious sort. Which is a good trait managed well; he's always seen a "carrot" worthy of chase.
So, if the issue here is 'time', [was there enough time for W. Shepherd to have been a lot of things before he was a Beatle], there's no problem, IMO. Imagining he spent time in Canada, Colorado (as per some people's guesses based on the MagMysMovie), Scotland, England, other parts of the US, not too far fetched.
My gut feeling is that he had experience from somewhere in the performing arts, and much broader than just a rock and roll junket.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 5, 2005 21:49:42 GMT -5
I really don't see any resemblance in that "Billy Pepper" guy to the person on the White Album poster. Me neither. I always thought that whole Billy Pepper thing was a long shot. |
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Post by Maracuja on Jun 19, 2005 12:52:22 GMT -5
I watched the video Wingspan last night and my feelings about Faul, Bill, Will, whatever we call him, have not changed. I feel sorry for the man. I know, he was interviewed by one of his children, and therefore, seemed comfortable, but I must think of how difficult it was for him to kind of reinvent himself after John left the group and the Beatles were no more. I don't know how much money Linda had, what kind of finances they had, but it may have been quite scary for this man to have to start over and support his family. I admire his spirit. I don't understand why some people out there hate him so much.
"Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I'm 64?"
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Post by JoJo on Apr 9, 2006 9:33:30 GMT -5
Brother can you take me back to where I came from,
brother can you take me back...
Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe that tear away
We all cried when you were driven away
Come home brother, all is forgiven
Connections?
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Post by -Wings- on Apr 9, 2006 18:06:10 GMT -5
At the end of Junior's Farm there's also a similar plea, complete with some exasperated panting.
Take me back... take me back... I wanna' go back...
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Post by beatlies on Apr 9, 2006 19:05:09 GMT -5
I've read that a lot of the people who are experts in fields needed by the CIA for their atrocities are blackmailed into joining the agency. This would resolve the paradox that the CIA/NSA/MI6/BND need intelligent employees, but many of the most intelligent people so fear them that they wouldn't join voluntarily at whatever salary.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Apr 9, 2006 22:00:29 GMT -5
Brother can you take me back to where I came from,
brother can you take me back...Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe that tear awayWe all cried when you were driven awayCome home brother, all is forgivenConnections? The haunting sounds of Bill singing "can you take me back where I came from, can you take me back?" is a crying sound as if he realized what really took place and what he went through to become this man, JPM. Thinking about playing JPM is a musical or drama is one thing. You play the part and go home to be yourself at home. But for Bill, the pain of going through the recovery of all those plastic surgeries, there's no "going home" for Bill. Maybe realizing all that took place and the involvement of secret societies and govt operations, it just is a haunting sound and right before Rev 9, which is a disturbing piece of work to me, fits together in a haunting clue. |
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