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[pennylane]

It's really quite funny.. but it's amazing how many people actually see something isn't quite right with Paul without even thinking about PID.

Here's a couple of things that have been said about Paul on one of my 'other' beatles sites.. please note these people never talk about PID...

Since we recently discussed Paul's cocaine "era," I thought I'd upload this. It's Paul's infamous LSD interview from 1967. This was also when he was doing coke regularly, and for those who wondered what the effects of the drug on workaholic Paul McCartney was, check this out. He's frickin' skin and bones, and also so...not Paul. I'd bet money he was stoned on coke while doing this interview. He's saying intelligent things, but he's so shifty and kind of...dulled. Like he has to concentrate on everything the guy is saying.

and...

So here are some random little things about Paul I've been thinking about lately...
First of all, what the HELL is up with Paul's eyes??? I know we've brushed on this topic a few times before, but I was looking through my photos and couldn't believe how many eye colors Macca seems to have. then it goes on to show photos of the everchanging eye colour.

I too have noticed how incredibly changeable his eyes are...but then I saw them up close and personal in New York a few years ago (I mean real real close) and at least in that moment his eyes were green as they could be.

I find it all quite amusing ehehe.

[lili]

Pennylane, please don't take this up the wrong way. I'm the last person to cast aspersions on people. I just find it upsetting that people can make observations like that & not get curious. How can they make observations like that & not try to figure out HOW it's possible ?
It's because of observations like that & questions like that, that many of us found our way to the PID websites & forums.
Maybe you should post a link to here & tell them to check it out as a possible explanation ?

[JoJo]

I find it all quite amusing ehehe.

Seen similar things on the official Macca board, my reaction is the same. If anyone comes within a mile of suggesting the "replacement" idea, well.. it gets ugly.

[-Wings-]

People hardly ever apply critical thinking, but I can't blame them. We've been told for almost forty years that this is the same Paul McCartney that was on Sullivan with the Beatles. The same Paul McCartney that sang 'Love Me Do' and wore a moptop. Forty years. Why should people believe otherwise? Yes, Paul looked strange... so it must be cocaine. There has to be a logical explanation for it. Cocaine's a bad drug, right? He was also doing weed and LSD. That can physically change the way a person looks... can't it?

A recent news story said that 69 percent of Americans believe that Saddam Hussein had a role in the 9/11 attacks. 69 percent, after only four years of mere suggestions by the government. Compare that to forty years of being told outright that this is the original Paul McCartney, and you can see why nothing short of a confession by all parties involved will change most people's mind about this.

There's no reason to believe otherwise unless you actually bother to look for it. Most people don't want that bother. It opens up a can of worms that many would find unpleasant. It's the same reason why we're so eager to believe the government, the same reason why we want to take things at face value. We're afraid.

Not that I'm comparing Paul being replaced to dark government conspiracies. Personally, I'm of the mind that there was nothing nefarious about this despite a slight deception of the public. But the very fact that the public can be deceived so easily is the thing that makes it so unsettling to most, and so the public will choose to remain deceived time and time again rather than deal with it.

[lili]

Wings posted:

There's no reason to believe otherwise unless you actually bother to look for it. Most people don't want that bother. It opens up a can of worms that many would find unpleasant. It's the same reason why we're so eager to believe the government, the same reason why we want to take things at face value. We're afraid.

Boy, did you just say a mouthful

I've found from personal experience that most people will only see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear, believe what they want to believe. Very few of us have the ability to transcend all of that, & the desire to unveil the truth of the matter.

[LOVELYRITA]

Drugs don't change a person's facial shape, head shape or features..in that the size of nose, eye shape, etc. Look at Keith RIchards, with all the drugs he's used, you can tell it's the same man.

It's beyond drugs here folks. Although drug abuse is the popular excuse as to why many stars "look" different. Either that or they've been in an "accident" of some sort, and they needed plastic surgery to survive the damage. But that story has been used once too many times. It's one thing to be a drug addict and have premature aging, and that affects one's looks, but it's quite another for someone to drop out of sight for a time and then the next time you see them, they look different. Drugs and accident my foot.

[lili]

That's all very true, Rita.

[lili]

I just found this photo:


It is posted at a PIA website. I don't see how it is possible. Paul might've had light brown eyes, but here they look green.









Both taken in 1965. He's wearing the same suit, so they were taken around the same time period. I have to wonder why Paul's face looks longer in the first photo

If Paul did indeed have hazel eyes, it would've been very easy for Bill to get away with his green eye color. However, in the very beginning Bill wore DARK BROWN contacts ? Hazel eyes might show up green at times, but they don't go that dark brown ! Faul was given contacts to turn his eye color BROWN. Why was this done if Paul had HAZEL EYES ?

Faul








Hazel eyes don't naturally go that dark !

My son has hazel eyes. I have seen them go green ( when he gets out of a chlorinated pool ). I have seen them at their regular color, which is a combination of all colors. They started to turn brown, and stopped less than half way. He has blue, green, yellow & brown in his irises. I have NEVER seen his eyes turn medium or dark brown. NEVER.

Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary, Second Edition.
Definition 3 light reddish-brown; yellowish-brown. hazel eyes are usually flecked with green or gray.

It seems that my son falls comfortably within this definition.

Hazel eyes, as well as any lighter eyes, usually darken with age. Hazel eyes are light brown or yellowish brown.

The basis of human eye color. The yellow "amebas" on the right depict pigment cells (with orange nuclei). The pigment cells contain brown pigment granules (shown in various intensities from neutral to light brown to very dark brown). The lighter the pigment and the fewer the granules — the lighter the iris color. The circles on the left depict irises and the colors that result from the corresponding pigment cell. Blue irises result from minimal pigment and few pigment granules. Green-hazel irises have moderate pigment levels and number of granules. Brown irises have high pigment levels and many granules. [Information from Richard A. Sturm, Institute for Molecular Bioscience at the University of Queensland.]

In some photos Paul does appear to have light brown eyes. However, according to this Paul's eyes should have darkened with age.



Bill and his daughter Mary. They both have hazel/green eyes. It doesn't appear that his eyes have darkened with age.



Is that light reflecting off of a contact lens ?

These look like two different men ! That brings me up to 3 Faul's & counting !

Again, the photo of Paul that I found today, circa 1963:

Bill singing Hey Jude, circa 1968.

You can see that Paul does not have a dark rim around his irises. To me, this shows that his iris color was a light to medium brown. The reason they look lighter in the photo is because his face is being bathed by a bright light. Bill's eyes have an obvious dark rim around the irises. To me, this shows that he has hazel eyes very much like my son's.

Bill, Strawberry Field's video:


Is this Paul or Bill ? Has it been tampered with ?



Also from the Hey Jude session. Here his eyes look light brown:




Paul Faul
Sometimes, I find the resemblence to be uncanny. However, they are not the same man.

[lili]

More photos for comparison. I'm going to do my best to make it from younger to older. It's hard, because alot of the photos aren't dated:

From the Strawberry Fields Video:




From MMT:

[lili]

More photos for comparison. I'm going to do my best to make it from younger to older. It's hard, because alot of the photos aren't dated:

From the Strawberry Fields Video. His eyes look like he's wearing contacts with a brownish/green tint to them. His eyes appear translucent:



From MMT. Here his eyes have green/blue/gray in them:


Dated 1967:


Dated 1967, but I think that it's 1968:


Dated 1968:


1970/71:



Bill from the 1970's:



Bill from the 1980's:




Bill 1990 & onwards & his eyes appear light colored:



Bill, 1990 & onwards & his eyes appear dark brown:



Bill & Heather Mills. His eyes appear brown & hers are blue/gray:




Stuck inside these four walls...

[eyesbleed]

wings said:

Not that I'm comparing Paul being replaced to dark government conspiracies. Personally, I'm of the mind that there was nothing nefarious about this despite a slight deception of the public. But the very fact that the public can be deceived so easily is the thing that makes it so unsettling to most, and so the public will choose to remain deceived time and time again rather than deal with it.

Ya, this is the same general idea that I talked about in the guest section when I pretty much derailed the jpm.org arguments.
Otherwise intelligent, level-headed people are taken in by the illusion time & time again.
Some people seem to willingly choose deception. If a subject is brought up that breaks thru their idea of "reality", they'll do everything possible to stop the words they don't want to hear, or images they don't want to see.
If all else fails, they'll storm out & just leave the area.
Unless of course, they're the majority & then the supplier of the information will be the one makin' a quick exit.

[LOVELYRITA]

Something about the eye color. Interesting set of photos of both JPM and Bill. Although that one of Bill missing a tooth is a bit bumpkin...I guess you can take the boy out of the mountain, but you can't take the moutain out of the boy...

Seriously, if there were two Fauls, perhaps the "Mountain Man" had brown eyes where Bill has the light color eyes. I had thought JPM had darker eyes, but with the lighting and the photos look to have dark colored eyes. These pics show lighter color. Interesting!

[lili]

A gorgeous photo of Bill, dated 1969:

[lili]

A gorgeous photo of Bill, dated 1969:

[sadiewestbrooke]

I know hazel eyes change in certain lights and whatnot. But this whole thing just confuses me more.

[mommybird]

sadie, I know that it can be confusing. All you can do is look at all the photographic evidence & try to make sense of it all.
Paul was a smaller man than Bill is, in every way. Paul wore lifts/specially made shoes to give himself extra height. There is good photographic evidence supporting this at this thread on the Sea of Green Forum :

only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi?board=faker&action=display&thread=1129653315

[sadiewestbrooke]

mommybird said:

sadie, I know that it can be confusing. All you can do is look at all the photographic evidence & try to make sense of it all.
Paul was a smaller man than Bill is, in every way. Paul wore lifts/specially made shoes to give himself extra height. There is good photographic evidence supporting this at this thread on the Sea of Green Forum :

only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi?board=faker&action=display&thread=1129653315

Wow! What a difference! Thanks.

[mommybird]

No problemo. I'm always happy to oblige.

MB