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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Sept 9, 2005 23:27:50 GMT -5
As Jonna told me when we talked things over, the reason the News section was created was to have a place for debate about current events (like hurricane Katrina). It was my impression that it really wasn't created for members to pin up an article (sometimes bunches of articles), and not offer any kind of personal opinion or observation about it, or not to communicate with others on the topic.
So the question before everyone, when it comes to the News section, should members who post articles be required to be active in the topics they make? Or should the News section continue on in it's current state.
Personally, I'm not sure how often I'll read or post here. However, I know some of you will be much more involved here, so thought I'd post the poll and see what everyone thought. ;D
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Post by JoJo on Sept 10, 2005 0:18:29 GMT -5
it is a news page as much as a discussion page, the idea is also to pick and choose stories gleaned from the torrent of stories in Google news for example that the poster finds interesting. I've seen it done before on other boards, I've found good leads on topics I would have missed otherwise. I've heard a theory in passing that this section might mess up someone's reading of the forum if they utillize the "last 10 posts" feature heavily.. hmmm...  |
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 10, 2005 9:48:09 GMT -5
There's a lot of very serious crap goin' on right now & a lot more people need to wake up. Way too many people aren't aware of just how serious things are getting... they just don't get it.
If I think pasteing a story here will help get it out, then that's a good thing.
So far I've found crooksandliars.com from a post here, & I just copied the long list of aid that FEMA refused, so I could use it somewhere else. I've been looking for a collected list like that & I'm sure that's nowhere near all of'em.
(Thanks shadow)
But I'm sorry this is all drivin' ya so crazy!
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Post by Shadow on Sept 10, 2005 9:59:09 GMT -5
If some of the members here feel I've been going at it too heavy.. I assure you this is only a small portion of most of the news articles I collect on a daily basis. Right now I am an active member in no less than six boards; sometimes I don't have the time to post a commentary on an article, sometimes it is more prudent for me to keep my virtual mouth shut. The articles in the Katrina thread in particular tend to make me swing between having my blood boil and making me wonder how the human race made it this far. eyesbleed said it quite aptly; There is some serious crap going down in the world now. I suppose we could all just put our heads in the sand but would that do us any good? |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Sept 10, 2005 12:11:43 GMT -5
Judging by the responses so far, it looks like this news section really is much less about discussion of current events, than it is just to pin up articles. Why are the stories important to you? It doesn't look like anybody wants to explain, nor does anyone have the time to.
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Post by revolver on Sept 10, 2005 13:22:33 GMT -5
The description of the section is Current news stories from around the world. I think it functions well as a News you may have missed section, with optional commentary. People are free to post an opinion or ignore the section if they choose. I've heard a theory in passing that this section might mess up someone's reading of the forum if they utillize the "last 10 posts" feature heavily.. hmmm... Maybe the 20 most recent posts link can be bumped up to 50 to allow for the increase in forum activity.  |
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 10, 2005 14:30:56 GMT -5
Why are the stories important to you? I grew up out here in the desert a fun-lovin' hippie who pretty much did whatever the hell he wanted to do. And with a little common sense I've been able to keep this up to an extent into my ol'manhood. So I'm extreemly alarmed to see my government delibertly starving people & denying extreemly needy people help. If they can get away with that in N.O. then someday they'll be able to do the same to you & your family. Do you want "secret" police dressed in black, without badges, & heavily armed kickin' in the door of your family's home without a warrant? Well ya know what? This stuff is actually happening in the US right now. 9-11 was only the opening salvo. Four yrs later the constitution is shattered & we now have armed foriegn troops on our own soil. Why are these stories important? Coz I'm on the verge of loosing every freedom I've ever had, that's why. |
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Post by revolver on Sept 10, 2005 14:40:42 GMT -5
Judging by the responses so far, it looks like this news section really is much less about discussion of current events, than it is just to pin up articles. Why are the stories important to you? It doesn't look like anybody wants to explain, nor does anyone have the time to. Do you have a problem with the non-mainstream content of the stories? It seems to me most of them are self-explanatory. If you want the mainstream news turn on FOX or CNN. I agree with eyesbleed. It's time more people started waking up to what's happening to this country and to our freedoms. I'm afraid we're just another staged terror attack away from becoming a national police state. New Orleans is already there. They're forcibly taking legally owned firearms from law-abiding residents of New Orleans as we speak. The final step before establishing a dictatorship has always been to disarm the law-abiding people. |
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Post by Shadow on Sept 10, 2005 14:51:22 GMT -5
Revolver brings up an important point.
As a rule I try to avoid mainstream news. Why post something
that you can watch on TV? Do you find the sources to be
questionable in nature?
Myself, I find mainstream news to be highly suspect.
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Post by JoJo on Sept 10, 2005 15:12:28 GMT -5
Maybe the 20 most recent posts link can be bumped up to 50 to allow for the increase in forum activity. Sure, it's a good idea regardless.. |
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 10, 2005 17:05:59 GMT -5
I would reccommend making the news section members-only or using some other trick to keep the news section off of the "latest posts" page, so folks accessing that page only see the latest PID research/discussion. After all PID is thhe thing that folks come here for. There are any number of alt.news sites that focus on current events.
I for instance, haven't had time to log on for several days and was awfully confused when I went to latest posts and saw more stuff about the 'cane than Paul.
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Post by jonna on Sept 10, 2005 18:33:27 GMT -5
ok first off yes we did have a converstion but DO NOT put words into my mouth. i said no such thing. i told you that if you had a problem with it and felt other members did too bring it too a vote. i'm all for open discussion on how this forum is run but i will not tolerate you twisting what i said..
one more thing Jonna = she? and this would be based on?
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Sept 10, 2005 19:58:22 GMT -5
Sorry, Jonna, I didn't mean to offend you. I deleted all the messages in my box. As for the news section, all I remember you saying is that you created it because of the Hurricane topic and it was to be a place to spark debate.
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Post by jonna on Sept 10, 2005 20:15:38 GMT -5
you didn't offend. i just don't like people twisting what i said. yes i do think the news section is about sparking debate or at the very least thinking outside the box. Isn't that what PID was?
are we so limited that we cannot separate the two? personally i give way more credit to our members.
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Post by DarkHorse on Sept 10, 2005 20:47:35 GMT -5
Anytime you present information that is controversial or contrary to the "official" news, it is going to upset some people. I see it already happening with others on this forum. Because of the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina, this news section becomes an important part of this forum. This forum isn't entirely about PID, as you can see from the other sections. If someone wants to post threads and not partake in the discussion, that's fine with me. Let's look at the bigger picture here. As EB said, we make wake up one day and have no country and no freedom. This information, therefore, becomes that much more important.
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Post by Spanky on Sept 10, 2005 21:48:48 GMT -5
where should we draw the line? is this only for the news section or should we do this with the whole forum?
what you're saying is a little naive. we cannot expect people to start threads here and then keep coming back to them to monitor all that is being said. or are you saying that you need these people to let you know what side of the fence he is on with the article? it shouldn't really matter. as with every forum on the web, you read what you want too, you take away what you want and disgard the rest.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Sept 11, 2005 0:43:14 GMT -5
Point well taken. It's kind of assumed that if someone brings up an issue, then it's something that poster is passionate about and wants to communicate with others about. An article or photograph could tell one's point of view, but then one would think the poster would want to interact with respondents. But your right, it would be a strain on moderators to have to monitor people any more than normal.
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Post by DarkHorse on Sept 11, 2005 11:11:11 GMT -5
It's kind of assumed that if someone brings up an issue, then it's something that poster is passionate about and wants to communicate with others about. I see your point JGD, but let me bring up something you might not be aware of. Perhaps the person who posted the threads has already spent time discussing the topics on other boards and just wanted to share the same information here....so that we may discuss it on ourselves. |
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