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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 17, 2004 14:32:03 GMT -5
I have not found any clues in this video in reference to PID. It just seems to be about John...and love. Has anyone found any clues?
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Post by paulrus on Jul 4, 2004 15:39:42 GMT -5
Paul plays right-handed
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Post by revolver on Jul 4, 2004 22:28:07 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Jul 5, 2004 0:07:18 GMT -5
I'll look for it tomorrow, sounds intriguing. Thanks for finding that other thread revolver, I was just thinking about it today and couldn't find it. Btw, if any newcomers happen to be looking at any old threads and have something to add or have a question, feel free to bump it up!
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Post by JoJo on Jul 5, 2004 11:15:32 GMT -5
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Post by SimMHoward on Jul 5, 2004 11:25:50 GMT -5
I think that someone said it was probably mirrored because if you look you can see the pick guard is upside down, so it was probably a rightie guitar flipped over for playing lefty
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Post by JoJo on Jul 5, 2004 12:12:11 GMT -5
Makes sense, but the question as to why it was mirrored in the first place, especially in a professionally done documentary such as this is still unanswered. Well, it will never be answered without asking the film producer really, but it's really puzzling.
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Post by SimMHoward on Jul 5, 2004 18:49:07 GMT -5
who can tell, maybe the person putting it together at first wasn't paying attention and got Paul and George confused, then no one else caught it because its such a small detail, maybe they like planting PID clues, so they did it on purpose as a clue
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Post by LarryC on Sept 1, 2004 18:54:31 GMT -5
It would be hard to justify "creative" mirroring on this as a documentary...I think it was probably sloppy film editing. Or as Within suggests maybe it is a deliberate attempt to create a clue. The unfortunate thing about this shot is that they are too far away from the camera and facing away from it for us to be able to look at some other things that would either confirm or disprove anything. A profile shot of Paul doesn't help at all.
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Post by FlamingPie on Sept 1, 2004 19:25:38 GMT -5
Here's one frame of a pre 1967 Paul playing left handed: So that's Paul? Hehe, look at the hair! He's turning into Faul!
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Post by kazu on Sept 2, 2004 2:03:41 GMT -5
Maybe only his hair was replaced. "You were in a car crash, and you lost your hair." - Don't pass me by.
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 2, 2004 7:36:02 GMT -5
I'm constantly amazed at how you guys cannot see 2 different people. I could tell instantly that it's JPM in that pic & not faul. One of'em may have learned to play like the other one, but they are OBVIOUSLY 2 different people! That could no more be Faul than XPT's favorite pic could ever be JPM.
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Post by kazu on Sept 2, 2004 11:10:21 GMT -5
A common mistake in ilm recording (A new fimstrip made from an existing one) is to put a film in backwards, mirroring everything by accident (Or at least the clip they are duplicating. That could explain it.
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Post by FlamingPie on Sept 2, 2004 12:54:04 GMT -5
I'm constantly amazed at how you guys cannot see 2 different people. I could tell instantly that it's JPM in that pic & not faul. One of'em may have learned to play like the other one, but they are OBVIOUSLY 2 different people! That could no more be Faul than XPT's favorite pic could ever be JPM. Yeah, but that pic pretty much dismisses the "hair part" clue/theory.
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Post by revolver on Sept 2, 2004 13:27:07 GMT -5
A common mistake in ilm recording (A new fimstrip made from an existing one) is to put a film in backwards, mirroring everything by accident (Or at least the clip they are duplicating. That could explain it. I doubt they wouldn't have noticed in final editing something as glaring as the footage of Faul playing right-handed. This wasn't an amateur production. Rather odd that the only mirrored footage in the whole anthology is of Faul playing guitar.
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Post by revolver on Sept 2, 2004 13:37:29 GMT -5
I think we concluded it was mirrored because the pick guard (or whatever you call it) was on the top. This means Faul was playing a right-handed guitar restrung to be left-handed, but mirrored to look right-handed. The other possibility is that he was playing a left-handed guitar restrung to be right-handed, but that's not very likely.
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Post by LarryC on Sept 2, 2004 14:26:13 GMT -5
I doubt they wouldn't have noticed in final editing something as glaring as the footage of Faul playing right-handed. This wasn't an amateur production. Rather odd that the only mirrored footage in the whole anthology is of Faul playing guitar. Well, let's be a little more realistic and admit that if he wasn't holding the guitar in that scene you would never know it had been edited. And to be honest, there are other people in that bit whose images were flipped along with his...I know...lame comment. There are probably other spots in the anthology which were edited in similar fashion that we don't know about because there is no point of reference like the guitar. This sort of thing happens as everyone is capable of a flub...and I would venture to bet that those guys who put that bit together had probably been spending several hours at a time doing that. Sometimes there is no definate working schedule being followed when you are involved in this sort of thing and you spend several days or weeks inside an editing room at odd hours working...sometimes more than you'd like. Eventually fatigue takes over and you lose a certain amount of attention to detail...anyone else here been down this road before?
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Post by revolver on Sept 6, 2004 23:12:07 GMT -5
Well, let's be a little more realistic and admit that if he wasn't holding the guitar in that scene you would never know it had been edited. And to be honest, there are other people in that bit whose images were flipped along with his...I know...lame comment. There are probably other spots in the anthology which were edited in similar fashion that we don't know about because there is no point of reference like the guitar. This sort of thing happens as everyone is capable of a flub...and I would venture to bet that those guys who put that bit together had probably been spending several hours at a time doing that. Sometimes there is no definate working schedule being followed when you are involved in this sort of thing and you spend several days or weeks inside an editing room at odd hours working...sometimes more than you'd like. Eventually fatigue takes over and you lose a certain amount of attention to detail...anyone else here been down this road before? Yes, human error is a possibility on something like that. Many of the PID/PWR clues taken one at a time could have a plausible explanation. But, taken as a whole, they can't be explained away so easily, because they defy probability that so many odd coincidences could occur so frequently in the post-66 Beatles output. Do you really think it's just a coincidence that Paul faced backwards on the SPLHCB LP, or that his carnation was black on the MMT booklet? Those clues were both done very intentionally.
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Post by DarkHorse on Aug 18, 2005 20:45:46 GMT -5
In this video, at 2:08, there is a scene where 4 medals float by...from the bottom to the top of the screen. They look like the medals the Beatles received from the queen in 1965 or 1966. Anyway, three of the medals are bright, shiny silver and one is dark grey with the tip of it colored black, possibly symbolizing the head of a body. Following the 4 medals is a cigarette. Remember, Bill had a cigarette in his hand on the Abbey road cover.
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Post by revolver on Aug 18, 2005 23:38:22 GMT -5
In this video, at 2:08, there is a scene where 4 medals float by...from the bottom to the top of the screen. They look like the medals the Beatles received from the queen in 1965 or 1966. Anyway, three of the medals are bright, shiny silver and one is dark grey with the tip of it colored black, possibly symbolizing the head of a body. Following the 4 medals is a cigarette. Remember, Bill had a cigarette in his hand on the Abbey road cover. Good find, DH. I'll have to look for that the next time I watch it.
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Post by pennylane on Aug 19, 2005 7:52:25 GMT -5
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Post by missvagabond on Aug 19, 2005 8:23:47 GMT -5
In this video, at 2:08, there is a scene where 4 medals float by...from the bottom to the top of the screen. They look like the medals the Beatles received from the queen in 1965 or 1966. Anyway, three of the medals are bright, shiny silver and one is dark grey with the tip of it colored black, possibly symbolizing the head of a body. Following the 4 medals is a cigarette. Remember, Bill had a cigarette in his hand on the Abbey road cover. It actually reminds me of the "black" carnation Paul wore during MMT's "Your Mother Should Know". It seems like an inside reference to that. I know it was totally played down by Bill, and now this shows up in Anthology. It's like a sequel. I wonder if they knew people would look for it. Just a thought.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on May 26, 2007 23:21:37 GMT -5
At 2:13 the clouds make up a giant number "3" while five Beatles albums showing covers of the fab four fly past. For whatever it's worth it (I'm not sure about the 3rd album) but the others appear to be the White Album, With The Beatles, Rubber Soul, and Help. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CIUhHMSxRA
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Post by fourthousandholes on May 27, 2007 12:06:23 GMT -5
Regina Spektor: [/color]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdL8_g272FY
REAL LOVE (Lennon)
All my little plans and schemes Lost like some forgotten dream Seems like all I really was doing Was waiting for you.
Just like little girls and boys Playing with their little toys Seems like all they really were doing Was waiting for you*
Don't need to be alone No need to be alone
It's real love It's real, yes it's real love It's real
From this moment on I know Exactly where my life will go Seems that all I really was doing Was waiting for love
Don't need to be afraid No need to be afraid
It's real love It's real, yes it's real love It's real
Thought I'd been in love before, But in my heart I wanted more Seems like all I really was doing Was waiting for you
Don't need to be alone No need to be alone
It's real love Yes it's real, yes it's real love It's real, yes it's real love...
* Waiting for Godot/God/Krishna/Paul/ my sweet lord/ etc.
DarkHorse wrote: "I have not found any clues in this video in reference to PID. It just seems to be about John...and love. Has anyone found any clues?"
Just the ascending of the instruments, uniforms, etc. I think signifying the "heavenly acceptance" of the Beatles and their music. (Implicitly, the acceptance of their souls and spirit. Not saying anyone is dead, just that they "made the grade".) Similar to the ascension of people who showed generosity by throwing money into Cheryl Crow's hat in the "All I Wanna Do" video.
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Post by Jude on Jun 4, 2007 2:07:14 GMT -5
It may not be anything related to Paul's death (or it may), but in reverse he seems to be singing: Paul he used to sing We used to Paul he used to sing Alternatively, some people hear: Paul he (we) used to sing with me We used to www.geocities.com/judeisdead/evoLleaR.mp3Judge for yourself. To me the reversal is very clear, and is indicative of the guilt and sadness John felt concerning his relationship with Paul.....the old one and/or the replacement.
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