"I Am the Walrus" backmasking?

[That Latvian Guy]

Well, using Windows Sound Recorder for reversing and Nero Sound Editing Tools for changing a .mp3 file into a .wav file, and then editing out the rest of the song, I have got that "Something wrong with my eye" part.

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[fourthousandholes]

In reply 18, Beatlies wrote:

"In all there were 43 passengers. Apart from the Beatles and film crew (Ringo was billed as Director of Photography), they included four fan club secretaries: Frieda Kelly, Barbara King, Sylvia Nightingale and Jeni Crowley."

Half of what I say is meaningless, but given that one of the secretaries was named "Nightingale",
and the British called their girl friends "birds", Jeni Crowley could be "Jenny Wren",
but in any case I'm fairly certain that song is about Paul, who, I suspect, did live as a female for a while.
And "Lovely Freida?" Mindless speculation, but who knows?
I'm kinda off topic here.

[Doc]

fourthousandholes said:

In reply 18, Beatlies wrote:

"In all there were 43 passengers. Apart from the Beatles and film crew (Ringo was billed as Director of Photography), they included four fan club secretaries: Frieda Kelly, Barbara King, Sylvia Nightingale and Jeni Crowley."

Half of what I say is meaningless, but given that one of the secretaries was named "Nightingale",
and the British called their girl friends "birds", Jeni Crowley could be "Jenny Wren",
but in any case I'm fairly certain that song is about Paul, who, I suspect, did live as a female for a while.
And "Lovely Freida?" Mindless speculation, but who knows?
I'm kinda off topic here.

I was thinking that perhaps rather than Paul ever "living" as a female, that it was a disguise that he resorted to because nobody would expect it, really. I mean, here is "the Cute Beatle", popular with the ladies, fathering little out of wedlock babies all over the globe, loving and leaving all these women, hetero-stud-muffin
McCartney, and how impossible, how ironic, how totally beyond detection! Put on a dress! Nobody would ever see thru that. I don't think he was, from what we are seeing, exactly "into being in a dress", though there would be nothing wrong with that if he had have been.

I dunno some straights like to do "dress up" but I tend to see it more as a clever way to get around and not be recognized.

Now, might'n have JPM elected to have his face rebuilt to look differently, less like himself? Is that possible? Of course, when you are handsome to begin with, why change it? Michael Jackson? Hello? I dunno.

Maybe JPM had that rare disease that some good looking people suffer from. 99% of the population considers them good looking at a glance, while they themselves look in the mirror and see some kind of hideous outer space troll? What's that about?

Oh, well, just fiddidling.

[beatlies]

doctorrobert said:

fourthousandholes said:

In reply 18, Beatlies wrote:

"In all there were 43 passengers. Apart from the Beatles and film crew (Ringo was billed as Director of Photography), they included four fan club secretaries: Frieda Kelly, Barbara King, Sylvia Nightingale and Jeni Crowley."

Half of what I say is meaningless, but given that one of the secretaries was named "Nightingale",
and the British called their girl friends "birds", Jeni Crowley could be "Jenny Wren",
but in any case I'm fairly certain that song is about Paul, who, I suspect, did live as a female for a while.
And "Lovely Freida?" Mindless speculation, but who knows?
I'm kinda off topic here.

I was thinking that perhaps rather than Paul ever "living" as a female, that it was a disguise that he resorted to because nobody would expect it, really. I mean, here is "the Cute Beatle", popular with the ladies, fathering little out of wedlock babies all over the globe, loving and leaving all these women, hetero-stud-muffin
McCartney, and how impossible, how ironic, how totally beyond detection! Put on a dress! Nobody would ever see thru that. I don't think he was, from what we are seeing, exactly "into being in a dress", though there would be nothing wrong with that if he had have been.

I dunno some straights like to do "dress up" but I tend to see it more as a clever way to get around and not be recognized.

Now, might'n have JPM elected to have his face rebuilt to look differently, less like himself? Is that possible? Of course, when you are handsome to begin with, why change it? Michael Jackson? Hello? I dunno.

Maybe JPM had that rare disease that some good looking people suffer from. 99% of the population considers them good looking at a glance, while they themselves look in the mirror and see some kind of hideous outer space troll? What's that about?

Oh, well, just fiddidling.

JPM was somewhat effeminate and was rumored to be gay, and I have yet to see one clear recollection from any woman who had supposedly been his girlfriend. As for Jane Asher, the daughter of Dr. Richard Asher and sister of Peter Asher, it is said that she was still a virgin when she stopped being "Paul McCartney" Faul's official only "girlfriend."

About Sardinia, Pilchard, Marisa Sannia etc., some research reveals that Sardinia was a major NATO/Italian/CIA training base for an underground neo-fascist network, including Nazi war criminals, that was linked to the "Operation GLADIO" false flag terrorist attacks supposedly done by leftists, but actually done by the GLADIO (from the Latin word for sword "gladius") double agent fascists. Quite similar to the landmark Charles Manson murders, linked to the Beatles/Foris Fay/Fia. I wonder if Italian intelligence into all this media fakery, and the Sardinia Marisa-Fylvie-Faul chain, is what led to SunKing's website, which appears to be Italian. Thomas Pynchon was based in the Mediterranean when he was in the US Navy (intelligence) in the 1950s.

[plastic paul]

Beatlies i've never seen one piece of evidence that suggests JPM was effeminate.

I'm not one of these people who can only see JPM as a martyr, but please explain how he was effeminate without simply showing evidence that he was gay, because (although I don't believe he was gay) being gay is massively different to being effeminate and singing doesn't cut it as far as i'm concerned ie. Here There and Everywhere.

[lili]

beatlies, you know that I always take what you write seriously. I might not agree with you, but I respect the amount of work that you put into your posts.
Paul was not gay. Their are stories written by some of his ex-girlfriends that are perfectly clear concerning their sexual relationship with him. His son Phillip greatly resembles him. Who knows how many other children there are out there ? Paul's body is not available for DNA testing. If these chlidren were tested against his brother Michael, we would know the truth.
Jane was not a virgin when Faul stepped into the picture. She might've remained a "technical virgin" until her 18th birthday. Paul was not into "pedophilia".

[Doc]

lili said:

beatlies, you know that I always take what you write seriously. I might not agree with you, but I respect the amount of work that you put into your posts.
Paul was not gay. Their are stories written by some of his ex-girlfriends that are perfectly clear concerning their sexual relationship with him. His son Phillip greatly resembles him. Who knows how many other children there are out there ? Paul's body is not available for DNA testing. If these chlidren were tested against his brother Michael, we would know the truth.
Jane was not a virgin when Faul stepped into the picture. She might've remained a "technical virgin" until her 18th birthday. Paul was not into "pedophilia".

I don't think Paul was/were/is gay. i.e., He wasn't/isn't/weren't.

But he may have been an early Metrosexual, which Bill took and really REALLY ran with it in those Mod Carnaby Street clothes---but then, they all did. And, damn it, I was too young then to wear those because I would have........

But, there are always the "Annie Hall hand-me-down shops" and an annual Halloween party to dress a lá retro........

Anyway, I guess the Fab 4 converted to being Mod Rockers in late 1966. Or is that just "M-ockers" as Ringo so aptly coined?

Then there are the Fad Rockers or 'Fockers', Spanish Tranvestite Rockers or 'Trocaderos',
Swiss Jeweler Rockers who are 'Clockers', and Science Fiction Rockers who are, yes, Spockers.


ooh ooh bad, ooh, ouch, a hit AND run pun......

[il ras]

Beatlies, what I know about Gladio is that it was an operation that was organized secretly, ready to react if the communist party took power during the cold war.
They had bases all over the country, not just in Sardinia.

[beatlies]

ilras said:

Beatlies, what I know about Gladio is that it was an operation that was organized secretly, ready to react if the communist party took power during the cold war.
They had bases all over the country, not just in Sardinia.

The official reason for this secret fascist army was to function as a reserve force that would be activated to fight a guerilla war in Italy in the event of a Soviet invasion; that official purpose was, of course, laughably stupid. Apparently what they were really up to was training to attack leftists and labor union protesters, and this is the media imposters connection: to create false flag "terrorist" type attacks that would then be blamed by the government and police upon "left wing" or "red" terrorists. This resulted in such inside job actions as the red brigades and their kidnapping of Aldo Moro, and the Madrid 3-11-esque bombing massacre of the Bologna train station.

Sardinia was apparently a key training center, and I bring it up because of the Beatles MMT clues and Marisa/Fylvie/JPM/Faul etc ........

[lili]

Doc posted

Anyway, I guess the Fab 4 converted to being Mod Rockers in late 1966. Or is that just "M-ockers" as Ringo so aptly coined?

Then there are the Fad Rockers or 'Fockers', Spanish Tranvestite Rockers or 'Trocaderos',
Swiss Jeweler Rockers who are 'Clockers', and Science Fiction Rockers who are, yes, Spockers.

Your chain of thought never fails to amaze me ! ;D

[LOVELYRITA]

doctorrobert said:

I don't think Paul was/were/is gay. i.e., He wasn't/isn't/weren't.

But he may have been an early Metrosexual, which Bill took and really REALLY ran with it in those Mod Carnaby Street clothes---but then, they all did. And, damn it, I was too young then to wear those because I would have........

But, there are always the "Annie Hall hand-me-down shops" and an annual Halloween party to dress a lá retro........

Anyway, I guess the Fab 4 converted to being Mod Rockers in late 1966. Or is that just "M-ockers" as Ringo so aptly coined?

Then there are the Fad Rockers or 'Fockers', Spanish Tranvestite Rockers or 'Trocaderos',
Swiss Jeweler Rockers who are 'Clockers', and Science Fiction Rockers who are, yes, Spockers.


ooh ooh bad, ooh, ouch, a hit AND run pun......

Doc, I'm sure you'd look dandy in one of those plaid outfits like Bill sported in that thread of pics that Lili posted. I think Vintage Shops would be the place to find suitable "plaids". Plaids, argyles, checks, would be interesting, but don't go with stripes or polka dots.

"Vintage" shops is a nice way of saying thrift shops. And that doesn't mean you have to go to Salvation Army or GoodWill, although you may find some dandy golf prints...But there are quality thrift shops that you may find some mod outfits.

I enjoyed your play on worlds.

Boating Rockers or "Dockers". Middle aged women named Betty rockers or "Crockers". Monk Rockers or "Frockers".

[Doc]

lovelyrita said:

doctorrobert said:

I don't think Paul was/were/is gay. i.e., He wasn't/isn't/weren't.

But he may have been an early Metrosexual, which Bill took and really REALLY ran with it in those Mod Carnaby Street clothes---but then, they all did. And, damn it, I was too young then to wear those because I would have........

But, there are always the "Annie Hall hand-me-down shops" and an annual Halloween party to dress a lá retro........

Anyway, I guess the Fab 4 converted to being Mod Rockers in late 1966. Or is that just "M-ockers" as Ringo so aptly coined?

Then there are the Fad Rockers or 'Fockers', Spanish Tranvestite Rockers or 'Trocaderos',
Swiss Jeweler Rockers who are 'Clockers', and Science Fiction Rockers who are, yes, Spockers.


ooh ooh bad, ooh, ouch, a hit AND run pun......

Doc, I'm sure you'd look dandy in one of those plaid outfits like Bill sported in that thread of pics that Lili posted. I think Vintage Shops would be the place to find suitable "plaids". Plaids, argyles, checks, would be interesting, but don't go with stripes or polka dots.

"Vintage" shops is a nice way of saying thrift shops. And that doesn't mean you have to go to Salvation Army or GoodWill, although you may find some dandy golf prints...But there are quality thrift shops that you may find some mod outfits.

I enjoyed your play on worlds.

Boating Rockers or "Dockers". Middle aged women named Betty rockers or "Crockers". Monk Rockers or "Frockers".

Oh, bravo, LovelyRita, bravo! I've trained you well!

If I'm feeling a little flat in the coiture, I might have to stop into GoodWill for a change of a tire. I'm thinking in the fashions of Rubber Sole......Thanks for the idea.........

[beatlies]

ilras said:

Beatlies, what I know about Gladio is that it was an operation that was organized secretly, ready to react if the communist party took power during the cold war.
They had bases all over the country, not just in Sardinia.

"The Gladio network was operated by the secret services and initially funded by the US Central Intelligence Agency. 622 people were recruited and trained by US and British specialists in Sardinia. It is believed that up to 15,000 members were ultimately recruited to the Gladio network ......" ---See below

I'm going to have another look at that Magical Mystery Tour comics map of Sardinia.

From what I've seen so far, the main base/training center was in "Semolina Pilchard" Sardinia, which makes sense, as this is basically the most remote and isolated part of Italy. See below for an interesting article on Operation Gladio, which was actually many different covert actions going on in tandem. Note there is a strong escaped-and-protected Nazi War Criminal component to Gladio, which is interesting in light of the Hitlers-Liverpool connection and the Nazi/Hitler visual clues found with the Beatles. Gladio specialized in false flag operations and public civilian deceptions, and I think they used overlapping personnel and specialist methods with the media "false flags" such as Marisa Sannia-Cold War Trophy Sylvie/Fylvie, Faul, Finatra, Fia, Foris-Manson false flag killings etc.

From a website:

"World War Two had barely ground to a final halt when, in 1947, Allied strategists set about planning for World War Three. Even as British and US intelligence officials scoured Europe seeking to apprehend Nazis wanted on war crimes charges, other more secretive US and British intelligence units were actively engaged in helping those same Nazis to escape.

Europe's "Stay Behind" Units

Italy was not alone in having covert "stay behind" units in operation. The operation encompassed all of western Europe. In France the unit was called "Glaive" - again named after a Gladiatorial sword. Austria's unit was named "Schwert," also meaning sword. In Turkey the unit was named "Red Sheepskin" and in Greece "Sheepskin." Sweden's unit was called "Sveaborg." In Switzerland it went by the title P26. Other units in Holland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Norway, Luxembourg, Denmark and Holland remain unnamed. Not least, the United Kingdom's unit was simply known as "Stay Behind."

The means of escape were the Vatican run "Ratlines."[Hmm the current former Nazi soldier/Hitler Youth German right wing Pope is named "Ratzinger" ! ---beatlies] Operated with the knowledge and blessing of highly placed US and British government officials, the Ratlines guided 30,000 wanted Nazi's to sanctuary. Safe haven locations included the US, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the favourite bolt hole of them all: South America.

Those who reached safety in this manner read like a "Who's Who" of the most wanted Nazi war criminals. Klaus Barbie, the cruel Gestapo officer known as the "Butcher of Lyons;" Franz Stangl, Commandant of the notorious Treblinka extermination camp; Gustav Wagner Commandant of Sorbibor extermination camp; Alois Brunner, a brutal official in the Jewish deportation programme. Of the most famous to escape along the ratlines were Adolf Eichmann, the chief architect of the "Holoucast" and Dr Joseph Mengele, the "White Angel" of Auschwitz concentration camp. Not least was Deputy Fuhrer Martin Bormann. Incredibly, an entire Waffen SS division - the notorious "Galician Division" - consisting of 8000 men were smuggled to England and given "free settler" status.

Origins of the Stay Behind Network

Information that surfaced in recent years suggests that the "Stay Behind" concept first arose in Britain. Senior military sources told the Guardian newspaper in December 1990, that a British guerrilla network was already in place following the fall of France in 1940. Numerous arm "caches" were buried for later use by a special forces ski battalion of the Scots Guards under the leadership of Brigadier "Mad Mike" Calvert. After the war, the decision was taken to create new units throughout Europe. The plan was conceived by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff and spearheaded by the newly formed CIA.

Secretly granted immunity these and thousands of other battle hardened Nazi soldiers were to form the fighting nucleus of a top secret Allied contingency group conceived by the first Director of the CIA, Allen Dulles. Loosely known as operation "Stay Behind," the idea was to build a Europe wide secret network of anti communist guerrillas who would fight behind the lines in the event of a Soviet invasion. The plan was later codified under the umbrella of the Clandestine Co-ordinating Committee of the Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE), the military arm of NATO.

US planners worried over the growing influence of Italy's large and popular communist party, established Operation "Gladio" in 1956. The name derived from the short sword used by Roman legionnaires 2000 years earlier, and was almost certainly drawn from the crest of SHAPE which features two swords arranged in an "A" shape. The Gladio network was operated by the secret services and initially funded by the US Central Intelligence Agency. 622 people were recruited and trained by US and British specialists in Sardinia. It is believed that up to 15,000 members were ultimately recruited to the Gladio network.

By 1972, with the prospect of a Soviet invasion receding, a decision was taken to "make a pre-emptive attack" on the Italian communist party - who had polled 27% in that year's election - and who would go on to increase their vote to 35% just four years later. There immediately followed a series of bomb outrages signalling the beginning of a "strategy of tension," designed to shift Italian politics sharply to the right. In April 1972 a Fascist bomb attack killed three carabinieri. In November 1973, an Argo 16 aircraft was destroyed in a mid-air explosion.

[mommybird]

I am bumping this up for the newbies who are questioning the more way out theories being espoused at TKIN.
Here yah go, Belda my dear... ( there's a song in that ! ) ;D
Check out page one, if you'd like to read my opinion concerning "Bill" being Viv Stanshall.

[Jude]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but there is one Paul/Vivian connection in MMT. Paul's wizard character is named Bonzo.

[mommybird]

I wasn't aware of that. Good catch, Jude. It further emphasizes the connection between "Paul" & Viv.

[Jude]

Well, I watched the scene again, and John could be calling Mal "Bonzo".
It's hard to say as everyone is standing so close together in that scene.
If anyone wants to check this out for themselves, it's the scene right before
the sing-along on the bus.

[The Deceptionist]

lili said:

I'm sure that it will be released eventually. Why would they miss out on that gold-mine ? Unless...
Maybe there are things in that other 9 hours that might give us the rest of the clues necessary to finally solve this mystery. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]

funny how AHDN, Help! and Yellow Submarine are all easily available in both VHS and DVD formats - along with various collections of the concerts in varying quality and the Apple-sanctioned Anthology [of course] - yet Let it Be and MMT are both a real bitch to find in either format in a half-decent quality - and they don't show any signs of bringing out digitally remastered versions any time soon... hmmmmm

[Valis]

Weird,

I can get MMT easily here but Yellow Submarine has been out of print for years.
I have it on bootleg though, and have the VHS since the early 90s.
I also have Let It Be on bootleg.

It's strange though that after the huge success of the 1 album there was no DVD with all the videoclips accompanying it.
That would be a huge instant cashmachine for EMI.

Might be because it would make people wonder about the differences.

All Love Jan

[Valis]

about the remasters,

after initially putting out all of their backcatalogue in shoddy quality on CD in the late 80s, all significant bands, and even some more unknown, got their digital remasters in the early 90s.
Except for the Beatles.

Some of my bootlegs sound a lot better than my official CD's.
Makes one wonder.

All Love Jan

[The Deceptionist]

i have a pretty awful copy of MMT that i got from ebay via Australia - the audio is full of crackles and sometimes skips as if it was an LP and the video is saturated with white dust marks and lines from the projection it was recorded from - also, the section of I Am The Walrus that has the policemen at the bottom looks as though it confused the projectionist who hurriedly tried realigning it before it cut to the next shot where he had to re-realign it.. but having not seen any other versions I don't know if thats a universal MMT error or not.

I picked up a bootleg copy of Let It Be in Budapest a few years ago which, despite the extremely pixelated titles has passable video quality. I thought I'd seen Yellow Submarine on DVD last time I was in HMV/Virgin/wherever - but its been such a long time that I'm not really sure

I saw a post on warez-bb.org recently that had a pair of DVDs they were calling the Red and Blue DVDs - comprised of all the live TV performances and subsequent music videos for single releases but then I dropped out of uni and lost all my funds for rapidshare so I couldn't d/l it - but the video quality there looked near-perfect

Still not holding my breath for any 'official' releases though

[mommybird]

Some of the newer video has been tampered with. If you're going to buy anything, look for VNS copies from 1986 & before if possible. You should be able to find stuff on half.com & it shouldn't be too expensive.

[JoJo]

A not too bad version on Google Video of Yellow Sub

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video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1444637107417806305