Jude
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Post by Jude on Jun 4, 2007 1:12:50 GMT -5
Poets spill out on the street To set alight the incomplete Remainders of the future
Hidden in the yard. Hidden in the yard.
Thunder drowns the trumpets blast Poets scatter through the night But they can only dream of flight Away from their confusion
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
Lightning hits the house of wax Woman scream and run around To dance upon the battleground Like wild demented horses
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
This song has disturbed me deeply. I can't even listen to it any more. It's incredible dark...more like something John would've wrote, methinks. But what does it mean? Is the "evidence" that Paul is dead buried in Billy's yard? Or is it something more sinister than that? Please discuss.
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Post by mommybird on Jun 4, 2007 13:43:17 GMT -5
I just looked up those lyrics. So, "Paul" McCartney wrote that ? What album is it on ? Those lyrics are very dark & disturbing. If Paul was buried, he didn't remain that way. That's not to say that there can't still be evidence where he WAS buried, if you dig there.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 4, 2007 21:02:40 GMT -5
Just very "Poe-esque" IMO. (who was on the Pepper cover, who also had a fondness for puzzles utilizing cyphers)
Getting rid of artifacts/information that can be studied in the future? Perhaps it would make for sense to say remainders of the past. A little obfuscation?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jun 5, 2007 15:44:50 GMT -5
Interesting that it's called House of Wax....
What I think of is the old horror movie House of Wax where Vincent Price had a wax museum and the woman who played Morticia was his "love interest".
Things that creep me out about Wax Museums...the eyes of many of the wax figures are so eerily realistic. It's as if those beings can see into your soul.
Just a thought, in any of the wax museums, are the images of "Paul Mc Cartney" resembling the real JPM or Bill?
Look at the eyes.....
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Post by beatlies on Jun 5, 2007 19:16:40 GMT -5
Think of the coat and tie wearing-Madame Tussaud's altered "original Beatles" wax doll doppleganger figures on the Sgt. Pepper cover.
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Jude
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Post by Jude on Jun 6, 2007 0:30:05 GMT -5
I just looked up those lyrics. So, "Paul" McCartney wrote that ? What album is it on ? Those lyrics are very dark & disturbing. If Paul was buried, he didn't remain that way. That's not to say that there can't still be evidence where he WAS buried, if you dig there. Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but I've been really busy. It's from the new album, Memory Almost Full. To me, the lines "thunder drowns the trumpets blast", and a mention of a battleground all suggest the end of something big. Not neccesarily the world, but perhaps Billy is thinking of how it will be when it all "falls apart", i.e., that day when the truth of Paul's death is discovered. And I think a part of him still does want the truth to be known badly. He's proud of the life that was handed over to him, and I think that's OK. I mean some people might hate him simply because he says he is who he isn't, but that's just his job....to BE Paul McCartney, even if it means claiming that he was "Merseybeating with the band" as he does in another song the album (That Was Me). But enough of my rambling. I think LovelyRita is on to something here, because "lightning hitting the house of wax" could very well mean the cataclysmic end to the facade that is Bill's life as Paul. But is the house is a literal house, and the yard is a literal yard, I can't help but wonder...is something buried on his farm...underneath a wall, as the song suggests?
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Post by mommybird on Jun 6, 2007 13:10:35 GMT -5
Maybe that's where Billy will/ or already has bury his "diary". I'm sure that he has written an auto-biography telling the whole truth & nothing but the truth ( from his POV of course ! ).
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Post by CoconutFudge on Jun 8, 2007 2:53:12 GMT -5
It's so creepy. I don't know if it's simply about the truth being buried for all of this time and the lightning hitting the house of wax would be the end to the facade or if it's somehow literal. The diary idea mentioned above is interesting. Perhaps it's a clue that Bill's end is near and that, if someone were to dig where he says (after his death maybe?), something that reveals the truth will be there. Paul's body being buried there is too eerie for me to get into. *shudder*
So many possibilities, allllllll of them creepy.
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Post by Jude on Jun 8, 2007 13:56:13 GMT -5
It's so creepy. I don't know if it's simply about the truth being buried for all of this time and the lightning hitting the house of wax would be the end to the facade or if it's somehow literal. The diary idea mentioned above is interesting. Perhaps it's a clue that Bill's end is near and that, if someone were to dig where he says (after his death maybe?), something that reveals the truth will be there. Paul's body being buried there is too eerie for me to get into. *shudder* So many possibilities, allllllll of them creepy. I know! And the weird thing is, most of the reviews I've read of Memory Almost Full have described House of Wax as "beautiful" and "moving". I'll admit that the music, and especially Paul's vocals, are quite moving, but if the lyrics are taken at face value it sounds very eerie. I've also thought that, maybe instead of something being buried in Bill's yard, that maybe he is referring to Scotland Yard. Legend has it that Bill was a policeman, remember?
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Post by mommybird on Jun 8, 2007 14:58:59 GMT -5
That's an interesting possibility, Jude.
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Post by mysteryboy on Jun 8, 2007 15:02:22 GMT -5
Poets spill out on the street To set alight the incomplete Remainders of the future
Hidden in the yard. Hidden in the yard.
Thunder drowns the trumpets blast Poets scatter through the night But they can only dream of flight Away from their confusion
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
Lightning hits the house of wax Woman scream and run around To dance upon the battleground Like wild demented horses
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
This song has disturbed me deeply. I can't even listen to it any more. It's incredible dark...more like something John would've wrote, methinks. But what does it mean? Is the "evidence" that Paul is dead buried in Billy's yard? Or is it something more sinister than that? Please discuss. A late "Welcome, Jude". Thanks for bringing this song up. I think it's the best thing he's done in years. He sounds like he MEANS it. It is disturbing but it is really well done, almost could be a Floyd song. I think he's lamenting not being able to reveal the Truth. I also think it is partially about the music scene after '66-67. It was never the same after the switch. I do wonder what's buried in the yard...
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Post by Jude on Jun 11, 2007 16:46:30 GMT -5
I agree, it's definitely one of the best things he has done in years. And it never ocurred to me until you said it, but yeah, it sounds Pink Floyddish.
I think as he's getting older he's become less afraid than ever to speak his mind, and I think he really does want the truth out before he dies. He wants to die with a clean conscience, so at least he can say he pointed people in the right direction...
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Post by mommybird on Jun 12, 2007 12:47:02 GMT -5
I think that "Bill" is a little bit psychic. I think that he knows very well what is awaiting him once he dies, if he doesn't come clean before hand.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jun 23, 2007 21:33:36 GMT -5
Poets spill out on the street To set alight the incomplete Remainders of the future
Hidden in the yard. Hidden in the yard.
Thunder drowns the trumpets blast Poets scatter through the night But they can only dream of flight Away from their confusion
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
Lightning hits the house of wax Woman scream and run around To dance upon the battleground Like wild demented horses
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
This song has disturbed me deeply. I can't even listen to it any more. It's incredible dark...more like something John would've wrote, methinks. But what does it mean? Is the "evidence" that Paul is dead buried in Billy's yard? Or is it something more sinister than that? Please discuss. Regarding the line in the third verse, "To dance upon the battleground," on the Sgt. Pepper cover, in the lower-center of the "yard," is the four-armed Kali. (She normally holds a severed head in her lower-left hand - yet another Sgt Pepper allusion to death by violence to the head). Anyway, in what is arguably the most famous Kali myth, she is called in to destroy the demon Raktavija who has been inadvertantly duplicated. (Each drop of his blood creates a duplicate of himself). After she sucks the blood out of all the duplicates with her tongue, she dances in a blood-drunken frenzy on the battlefield! To dance upon the battleground indeed!!! The next line, "Like wild demented horses," must be an allusion to the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses," (since the Shirley Temple doll's sweater says "Welcome The Rolling Stones.") The phrase "Underneath the wall" refers to the wall of people in the Sgt Pepper background. In the original Peter Blake sketch, the people are actually drawn behind a wall. The line "Lightning hits the house of wax" sounds to me like a reference to the pre-Pepper version of the Beatles as represented by the wax Beatle dummies from Madam Tussaud's House of Wax. The verses that talk about "Poets" are suggestive of the remaining three Beatles. Does the phrase "set alight" in the first verse suggest that the body was cremated? The "incomplete remainders" could be interpreted as the decapitated remains of a body. The lyrics to this song are freaking me out.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jun 24, 2007 10:16:54 GMT -5
jarvitronics wrote: "The line "Lightning hits the house of wax" sounds to me like a reference to the pre-Pepper version of the Beatles as represented by the wax Beatle dummies from Madam Tussaud's House of Wax."
Exactly, but more than that. Records were called "wax" by DJs in the 1950s and '60s. They'd say they were going to go through "stacks of wax" in their shows (i.e. play a lot of music). The "house of wax" is the recording industry. If the Beatles were disbanded, it would be like a lightning strike to the house of wax (recording industry). A massive loss of sales. But there appears to have been an actual blast of lightning associated with the Beatles:
One hears a lightning crash in "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey".
The lyrics: "Well the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun" in "Band on the Run"; suggesting a fall into water that was reflecting a band of sunlight on its surface.
Paul is depicted with a blue bolt of lightning hitting his head in the "Fool on the Hill" panel of the Magical Mystery Tour comics.
And there are references by other rock groups. Peter Townsend of The Who organised a band called "Thunderclap Newman". (Thunder clap (results in a ) new man) which put out a hit song called (ahem) "Something In the Air".
Pink Floyd, in the song (ahem) "Brain Damage" sang:
"And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear You shout and no one seems to hear. And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark side of the moon."
(Someone who's band started playing different tunes [than "Love Me Do"] was deafened, and may have suffered brain damage: "Fixing a hole where the rain gets in, and keeps my mind from wandering")
And there are a dozen other references I could make. This "lightning bolt" appears to have been a military strike on a plane that the Beatles, or at least Paul, was in. This shooting down of the plane is represented in the "computer game" sounds that come at the end of the song "Dogs of War" by Pink Floyd as well.
From the Rolling Stones we have this from the 1966 album (ahem) "Aftermath":
FLIGHT 505 Well, I was happy here at home I got everything I need. Happy bein' on my own Just living the life I lead.
Well, suddenly it dawned on me That this was not my life. So I just phoned the airline girl And said, "Get me on flight number 505, Get me on flight number 505."
Well, I confirmed my reservation. Then I hopped a cab. No idea of my destination And feeling pretty bad.
With my suitcase in my hand. In my head: my new life. So then I told the airline girl "Well, get me on flight number 505, Get me on flight number 505." Alright.
Well, I sat right there in my seat. Well, feeling like a king. With the whole world right at my feet. "Of course I'll have a drink!"
Well, suddenly I saw That we never ever would arrive. He put the plane down in the sea. The end of flight number 505. The end of flight number 505. Alright. Whew, they put the plane down in the sea. The end of flight number 505. The end of flight number 505.
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So, yes, lightning struck the "house of wax" when Paul attempted to start a new life, and was literally shot down, imo.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 24, 2007 11:43:09 GMT -5
Poets spill out on the street To set alight the incomplete Remainders of the future
Hidden in the yard. Hidden in the yard.
Thunder drowns the trumpets blast Poets scatter through the night But they can only dream of flight Away from their confusion
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
Lightning hits the house of wax Woman scream and run around To dance upon the battleground Like wild demented horses
Hidden in the yard. Underneath the wall Buried deep below a thousand layers lay the answer to it all
This song has disturbed me deeply. I can't even listen to it any more. It's incredible dark...more like something John would've wrote, methinks. But what does it mean? Is the "evidence" that Paul is dead buried in Billy's yard? Or is it something more sinister than that? Please discuss. Regarding the line in the third verse, "To dance upon the battleground," on the Sgt. Pepper cover, in the lower-center of the "yard," is the four-armed Kali. (She normally holds a severed head in her lower-left hand - yet another Sgt Pepper allusion to death by violence to the head). Anyway, in what is arguably the most famous Kali myth, she is called in to destroy the demon Raktavija who has been inadvertantly duplicated. (Each drop of his blood creates a duplicate of himself). After she sucks the blood out of all the duplicates with her tongue, she dances in a blood-drunken frenzy on the battlefield! To dance upon the battleground indeed!!! The next line, "Like wild demented horses," must be an allusion to the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses," (since the Shirley Temple doll's sweater says "Welcome The Rolling Stones.") The phrase "Underneath the wall" refers to the wall of people in the Sgt Pepper background. In the original Peter Blake sketch, the people are actually drawn behind a wall. The line "Lightning hits the house of wax" sounds to me like a reference to the pre-Pepper version of the Beatles as represented by the wax Beatle dummies from Madam Tussaud's House of Wax. The verses that talk about "Poets" are suggestive of the remaining three Beatles. Does the phrase "set alight" in the first verse suggest that the body was cremated? The "incomplete remainders" could be interpreted as the decapitated remains of a body. The lyrics to this song are freaking me out. That's not Kali, that is Lakshmi the goddess of prosperity and money. She is in the typical pose of the Lakshmi depiction, a stream of gold coins flowing out of one hand.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jun 24, 2007 12:07:45 GMT -5
That's not Kali, that is Lakshmi the goddess of prosperity and money. She is in the typical pose of the Lakshmi depiction, a stream of gold coins flowing out of one hand. Yes I am aware of that argument. However, there are a few ambiguities that should be addressed. 1) There are no coins falling from her hand or on the ground, and her hand is not open. 2) Lakshmi sits/stands on a lotus flower, which floats on the water, but we are in dirt here. 3) Lakshmi holds a lotus bud in her hand (unblossoming), but the blooms that the Sgt Pepper statue holds in her upper hands are just hyacinths put into her hands for the shot. They are not part of the statue. 4) Lakshmi does dress in red with gold, so there is a point for it being Lakshmi. Overall I would tend to agree that this is best construed as an image of Lakshmi, however the subtle inconsistencies leave room for interpretation. When you combine that with the House of Wax lyrics it make me wonder... -j
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Post by mysteryboy on Jun 24, 2007 13:27:37 GMT -5
Good points about Kali. That issue really needs to be settled!
Lightening also struck the Radio tower of one of the stations in the southern US during a broadcast encouraging the burning of Beatle LPs. (don't know if that's public knowledge)
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Post by jarvitronics on Jun 24, 2007 13:58:24 GMT -5
Good points about Kali. That issue really needs to be settled! Lightening also struck the Radio tower of one of the stations in the southern US during a broadcast encouraging the burning of Beatle LPs. (don't know if that's public knowledge) Maybe the Kali vs. Lakshmi issue doesn't need to be settled. Maybe the ambiguity is purposeful, having a meaning. Who is she really? Is she Lakshmi or an imposter? Is she really Kali made to look nice before she zaps you right between the eyes? I think the ambiguity says more about PID than a decisive identity would, don't you? I did not know about that lightning strike. Where did you learn about that? -j
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Post by mysteryboy on Jun 24, 2007 16:07:56 GMT -5
Good points about Kali. That issue really needs to be settled! Lightening also struck the Radio tower of one of the stations in the southern US during a broadcast encouraging the burning of Beatle LPs. (don't know if that's public knowledge) Maybe the Kali vs. Lakshmi issue doesn't need to be settled. Maybe the ambiguity is purposeful, having a meaning. Who is she really? Is she Lakshmi or an imposter? Is she really Kali made to look nice before she zaps you right between the eyes? I think the ambiguity says more about PID than a decisive identity would, don't you? I did not know about that lightning strike. Where did you learn about that? -j Yes, I believe you are correct about ambiguity being purposeful. Regarding the lightening, I meant to write "Not sure if this has been written about much" and it didn't come from any insiders or relatives. I don;t remember where exactly I read or heard that. Matter of fact, It may have come to me in a delusional dream or something to that affect.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jun 24, 2007 16:17:13 GMT -5
Maybe the Kali vs. Lakshmi issue doesn't need to be settled. Maybe the ambiguity is purposeful, having a meaning. Who is she really? Is she Lakshmi or an imposter? Is she really Kali made to look nice before she zaps you right between the eyes? I think the ambiguity says more about PID than a decisive identity would, don't you? I did not know about that lightning strike. Where did you learn about that? -j Yes, I believe you are correct about ambiguity being purposeful. Regarding the lightening, I meant to write "Not sure if this has been written about much" and it didn't come from any insiders or relatives. I don;t remember where exactly I read or heard that. Matter of fact, It may have come to me in a delusional dream or something to that affect. One well documented but little known fact about The Beatles is that on August 22, 1965, as they were on final approach to Portland, Oregon for their one and only appearance there, the starboard engine of their charter jet caught fire, and was belching smoke and flames. The runway was foamed down and they landed 20-30 minutes later without any injuries. (It was their last flight in that airplane). That was also the first time they met any of the Beach Boys. Carl Wilson and Mike Love flew up to Portland and met The Beatles backstage there, at the Memorial Coliseum. Exactly four years to the day later, August 22 1969, The Beatles had their last-ever photo shoot together. Just some off-topic trivia. -j
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Post by beatlies on Jun 26, 2007 10:54:17 GMT -5
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