Ancient, Free, & Accepted Beatles

[nothingthatdoesn'tshow]

Take a look.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yervVjnlivM


www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADE8T5KDY98


www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5RJVkaC0M

[horseloverphat]

I did some very similar work like shown in the 3rd video here....

The Golden Dawn 'signs'.

I found them in Faul's new Ever Present Past (see ever present past thread) video...and then went on to notice them in the 'Help' artwork...afterwards.

I never saw this video either...!!!



(blimey that smilie looks like the sun wearing glasses!!!!)

Anyways...I had a look at his other work.....OK I guess...but limited.


Banging on about the sun and sun worshippers and the eye of horus etc etc.... the underlying concepts don't seem to have been addressed at all.

[stevenchrist]

well that's because you're so special.

[horseloverphat]

so are jew.....

[nothingthatdoesn'tshow]

horseloverphat said:

Anyways...I had a look at his other work.....OK I guess...but limited.


Banging on about the sun and sun worshippers and the eye of horus etc etc.... the underlying concepts don't seem to have been addressed at all.

I agree.

[horseloverphat]

probably a good introduction to symbolism though.....thanks for the hook up.

[plastic paul]

I can't believe that Footballs are now related to the occult!

[il ras]

plasticpaul said:

I can't believe that Footballs are now related to the occult!

That's possible!
Kakà is from another world... ;D

[il ras]

Found this too

www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_DM0R1V-nE

[plastic paul]

Ha, maybe, not as good as our Ron and Roo!

[B]

Ron and Roo

es.youtube.com/watch?v=ylMqeyMgsxs

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article57738.ece

[plastic paul]

All water under the bridge, since then they've been formidable in the same side.

Anyways, I feel we're going just a little OT, back to the videos, I think they all make valid points but there does appear to be a lot of clutching at straws with some of the likenesses, like the sun through the skylight of the MMT bus.

[horseloverphat]

I can't believe that Footballs are now related to the occult!

In the 'ritualized' sense this may very well be the case.

Just don't tell him the F.A. (Football Association) was founded in a pub called 'The Freemasons Tavern'......so shhhhhhh!

The modern rules of football are based on the mid-19th century efforts to standardise the widely varying forms of football played at the public schools of England.

The modern game was codified in England following the formation of The Football Association, whose 1863 Laws of the Game created the foundations for the way the sport is played today....... These ongoing efforts contributed to the formation of The Football Association (The FA) in 1863, which first met on the morning of 26 October 1863 at the Freemason's Tavern in Great Queen Street, London.[12] The only school to be represented on this occasion was Charterhouse. The Freemason's Tavern was the setting for five more meetings between October and December, which eventually produced the first comprehensive set of rules.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(soccer)


Earliest origins of the game of 'football' are perhaps suggested in the Aztec game of 'Tlachtli'....

The Aztec version of the ballgame is called ullamaliztli (the actual Nahuatl pronunciation was [o:llama'listɬi]) or Ulama. Aztec cities, like other mesoamerican cities, normally had several ballcourts called tlachtli ['tɬatʃtɬi][4]. In the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan the largest ballcourt was called Teotlachco "in the holy Ball Court" - here several important rituals would take place on the festivals of the month Panquetzaliztli, including human sacrifice of 4 war captives to the honor of Huitzilopochtli and his herald Paynal.

For the Aztecs the playing of the ballgame also had religious significance, but where the Maya saw the game as a battle between the the lords of the underworld and their earthly adversaries, the Aztecs saw it as a battle between the forces of night led by the moon and the stars represented by the goddess Coyolxauhqui and her sons the 400 Huitznahuah, and the sun personified by Huitzilopochtli[5]. But apart from holding important ritual and mythical meaning the ballgame for the Aztecs was also a sport and a pastime played for fun, and by all the social classes of Aztec society.

The sacrificed head of a vanquished competitor may well have been utilised as the basis of a new ball.

Sacrifice being vital to their systems.

One should also consider aspects of the Maya game 'pitz'.

www.answers.com/topic/mesoamerican-ballgame

When you look at the modern game and the pitch design...it is not hard to describe the centre circle as the SUN, from whereby the game is commenced. The opposing sides each have something akin to a segment of the MOON. Alternatively its possible that the centre circle can be seen as the MOON and the 2 segments the rising SUN.

The 3 'lesser lights' of Freemasonry being....The Sun, The Moon & The Worshipful Master. (these 'lights' form a triangle about the altar)

The 'stars' must be the football players.... ;D


So perhaps occult in the 'ritualized' sense....as opposed to the 'nefarious' sense.

Football in the UK can be viewed as a type of religion/worship especially when you see how folk behave 'en masse'.





The latest scores...

Man Utd won by 4 heads to 0

;D

[iameye]

"According to Coil's Encyclopedia there is at times some confusion about the first two meetings of the Grand Lodge and where the first one was held. Some think the Grand Lodge was formed at the Apple Tree Tavern in 1716, but "Brother and Dr. Anderson tells us that only a Grand Lodge Pro Tempore was then formed, and since no Grand Master was then elected and no laws or regulations of any kind formulated, it amounted to only a group agreement to meet the following June 24th to form the Grand Lodge, which was done at the Goose and Gridiron Ale House."

There were only three Quarterly Communications held and then the Annual Communication on June 24th. The Quarterly Communications were held on Michaelmas, (September 29th, the feast of St's Michael, Gabriel and Raphael;) one at Christmas, (December 27th;) and one on Annunciation Day, (March 25.) So the Communication on June 24th would not have been a Quarterly Communication but the Annual Communication.

It was at the Lodge that met at the Goose and Gridiron Ale-House that the Premiere Grand Lodge was born and constituted to become what we know as the birthplace of modern Freemasonry.

The building known as the Goose and Gridiron Tavern is said to date back to an unknown year before the Great London Fire of 1666. Prior to that year there was a building on the site of the Goose and Gridiron that was a public house, called the Mitre, and the Mitre was said to be the first music house in London. The owner of the house, Robert Hubert, was a collector of curios and he kept them on display in his building, so the Mitre was a combination public house being a tavern, museum and music house. The Mitre was destroyed in the great fire in 1666 and soon after the fire another building was erected under the name of the Lyre, because a musical society held its meetings there. The coat of arms of the building was the Lyre of Apollo, having for its crest a Swan. [This is important as to why the name was changed to the Goose and Gridiron.]

It was later on with a new owner of the building that the name was changed to the Goose and Gridiron. This was because the new owner was no lover of music, and he decided on the coat of arms and sign with "a goose striking the bars of a gridiron with its foot." The purpose of this sign, which was considered a curious device, was to cast ridicule upon musical societies, which were using the Swan and Harp as one of their principle signs.

By the way a gridiron is a utensil having parallel bars to broil meat over an open fire. In the game of Football the field is sometimes called a gridiron because of the parallel white lines crossing the field every five yards.

[plastic paul]

Oh dear what have I gotten us into! Forget PID/PWR lets start an "OMG Football is Satanic" Group!

I'm not kidding, we're through the looking glass here people...