Alt version of Revolution 9

[JoJo]

This was discussed once I think, there is an alt version of the track floating around, and I got my hands on it recently. Must have been a bootleg vinyl, it's obvious with the scratches and occasional skip. For the collector of clues who wants to have everything:

www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/Rev9/Alt%20Revolution%209.mp3

The difference seems to be that some of the conversation seems to be clearer, the most notable is this one at 4 min 40 seconds:

And his hands were tied, his feet were dented, his nose was burning, his head was on fire, his glasses were insane....this was the end of his (audience) (I'm not sure about the last word)

The usual version of rev 9 only has a part of this, take that for whatever...

Here's a clip: www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/Rev9/altrev9clip.mp3

[Doc]

JoJo said:

This was discussed once I think, there is an alt version of the track floating around, and I got my hands on it recently. Must have been a bootleg vinyl, it's obvious with the scratches and occasional skip. For the collector of clues who wants to have everything:

www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/Rev9/Alt%20Revolution%209.mp3

The difference seems to be that some of the conversation seems to be clearer, the most notable is this one at 4 min 40 seconds:

And his hands were tied, his feet were dented, his nose was burning, his head was on fire, his glasses were insane....this was the end of his (audience) (I'm not sure about the last word)

The usual version of rev 9 only has a part of this, take that for whatever...

Here's a clip: www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/Rev9/altrev9clip.mp3

I hear two voices in counterpoint--it is the voice of James Paul and another more serious voice. James Paul says:

Nobuddy else will tend to it



and the same time the other voice seems to say:

His glasses are insane.

I think he really says:

His glasses were in FLAMES.

The S is coming from the other voice---James Paul---on the word
else. The s is synched up the the word flames. Try thinking the word flame just before he says it, you will hear flame. Try thinking thw word in sane---you will hear insane.

Your brain DOES filter out for what it expects to hear!

But, there is only one S spoken there. JP is saying else. JP is contributing the S, not the serious voice.

So, I think we are hearing:

His hand were tied, his feet were bent ¿¿¿<br>his nose was burning, his head was on fire,
his glasses were in flames,
this was the end of his (two syllables) something-ah, something--ee.

The JP voice contributes :
all around the classroom

which confuses the other voice. JMO, it is a two syllable word rhyming with:

body.

JMO

Verbal counterpoint is confusing. Hard to ISOLATE which consonant comes from where, once the recording engineer boosted JPs voice........
which, the speaing voice of JP, is QUITE deep here, reaching down to low Eb. A low, tired, baritone.

[JoJo]

Thanks for the input doc, you're really good at this picking out sounds business. I know that, because my interpretation didn't bias you at all it seems.

I think he really says:

His glasses were in FLAMES.

Your brain DOES filter out for what it expects to hear!

Yes I agree. Part of what made me think it was "insane", was John's famous word play, remember the example of that I posted? (Spaniard in the Works) Are you sure the other voice isn't George?

You know who we need on this board? Mozart! (or someone as much a genius as him)

A quote from a book I'm reading by Wilson Bryan Key:

The young Mozart once heard a polyphonic choral composition sung by the Vatican's Sistine Chapel Choir. The complex score had been a guarded secret of the church for many decades. After one hearing, Mozart transcribed the complete score from memory. He was able to perceive each of the four voices separately and collectively, vertically and horizontally

Amazing, eh? I think it's possible to perceive everything it that clip, perhaps it's a matter of relaxing and getting into a deep enough state such that you turn off the conscious mind's filtering mechanism. Mozart was simply able to do that at will.

[Doc]

Ho yes! Mozart! Sacre Bleu! Quelle geniuse!

I was always so jealous of him. He always showed me up! I never could pull the tricks he did! That's why I had to have him.... ----er,---um--,
offered, yea that's right, offered a very special place in the Archduke's opera company. Yes, that's right.

(Collects senses....cools off....)

Uhm, so, Jojo, uhm, what I was saying about the clip. Maybe it IS George!I didn't hear the charactoristic slow, measure way he seemed to speak in some of the interviews. ("We had all heard that the Phillipines was a terrible place...and it t'was proved"....etc.) I will listen again.

I thought that could have been old radio interview tape of Paul.
But, my volume on my computer is too soft--I have to get the auiliary speakers and hook them up when I listen again.

[JoJo]

Ok calm down Herr Salieri! ;D

Ok I loved that movie, I even checked out a couple of books from the library to learn more about his life. The books seemed to confirm what the critics of the movie said, that the whole Salieri was jeolous of Mozart thing was an invention of the screenplay. But of course who knows really, the history was written no doubt by his survivors, Mozart died young, leaving the biographers free to say what they wished. (hmmm)

But hey, the movie's greatest strength was as a showcase of that music, and oh man what amazing music it is! Timeless, that's all I can say..

Btw, try plugging in headphones, that's really the best way with something as faint as this.