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Post by Morph on Sept 13, 2004 10:20:15 GMT -5
Check it out...these are images cropped and jpegged from a 600ppi tiff scan I did of my Sgt Pepper album cover. The first is a shot of the Beatles, reduced in size to fit: Now focusing in on Sgt Faul: Notice the "halo"? I wonder if that was intentional, or just a by-product of the airbrushing to round out the head. btw, the small spots here and there are minor printing glitches or cover wear, not clues Comments?
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Post by DarkHorse on Sept 13, 2004 13:55:47 GMT -5
Well it could be just a coincidence. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it was there on purpose. Still it looks more like an accident more than anything else.
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Post by revolver on Sept 13, 2004 14:37:54 GMT -5
Looks to me like it could have been a cut & paste job on Paul's head.
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Post by FlamingPie on Sept 13, 2004 17:07:17 GMT -5
Looks to me like it could have been a cut & paste job on Faul's head. I the head does look pasted in... I have no idea why though.
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Post by matchbox on Sept 13, 2004 17:53:10 GMT -5
John seems to have the halo effect too.
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Post by Morph on Sept 14, 2004 23:56:14 GMT -5
To me it definitely looks like something was done, and again the question of why... Closeups of the other Beatles don't reveal anything funny, they just look like they're standing in front of a backdrop. Matchbox, John doesn't have this type of outline...the darkness is just his hair and sideburns, but with Faul it's extended below his "ears"... Well regardless, enjoy the pics.
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Post by matchbox on Sept 15, 2004 13:34:10 GMT -5
Good point. I think Pauls hair on the cover pic has been altered. It looks nothing like any of the other pics on Pepper.
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Post by Doc on Sept 16, 2004 0:47:40 GMT -5
My impression of this picture of Paul on the Pepper cover, is, that,
his bangs seem to be combed out from under a hairpiece, or topwig. Or, the darker, outer hair was matted on in process. The reflective quality of the bangs is greater than the larger area around it of darker hair. It just doesn't match in apparent texture or sheen.
The halo around the outer sides of the hair may be reflected side-lighting. Or, it could be a matte border. There is a general diffuse quality to the picture. NOw, there are other pics of them standing about this set. And Paul isnot wearing a wig (doesn't look that way) in those pics.
But, its PR photography. They dress everything up. Like they dress up the perfect pizza and hamburgers on TV ads. They always give it a fancy touch.
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Post by Morph on Sept 21, 2004 21:29:24 GMT -5
Good point. I think Pauls hair on the cover pic has been altered. It looks nothing like any of the other pics on Pepper. Those two shots are exactly the ones that I saw and made me go hmmm...
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Post by Imgonnaopenmymind on Oct 3, 2004 9:49:26 GMT -5
I remember some theory that claimed they used a cardboard cut-out or a series of them in the Sgt. Pepper photos because the double was not yet ready.
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Post by revolver on Oct 3, 2004 16:31:36 GMT -5
I remember some theory that claimed they used a cardboard cut-out or a series of them in the Sgt. Pepper photos because the double was not yet ready. Now that you mention it, that cover shot does have a flat cookie cutter look to it.
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Post by Morph on Oct 4, 2004 12:25:09 GMT -5
Just came across this bootleg hmm, I know about the mop-top look and the mullet years, but the 'fro phase is new to me. ;D
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Post by revolver on Oct 4, 2004 15:44:09 GMT -5
Just came across this bootleg hmm, I know about the mop-top look and the mullet years, but the 'fro phase is new to me. ;D Now we know how he got the nickname "Shears". They had to use scissors to make all the Sgt. Paul cut-outs! ;D The LP also had a separate sheet of cut-outs. That might have been a clue right there.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 4, 2004 17:45:34 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Oct 4, 2004 21:23:56 GMT -5
Paul, baby, it's an English Horn. The left hand goes on top. Stick to the bass.
(lol)
Just kidding ya' know....Man, you should see what happens when I try to pick up a guitar........it's El-Kabong city- broken strings and everything.......
Hey, what great photos of the famous shoot that I have never seen. Really a gas. Where did they come from? That cover could have turned out to be anything, given the elements. I mean, the clues and all that we believe we see--any other "print" off the contact sheet would not have stirred the "imaginations of thousands" for 3 decades like the one they chose........I say thousands cause I doubt if it was millions---may just hundreds---what an elite crewe.......
Also, the bootleg---where do you find it? It has bar code--it must be available.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2004 14:12:28 GMT -5
The only objects handled for the photoshoot seen to be the instruments, and the trophy. Why does that trophy bug me? Why in the final cover pick does it have it's own lighting ( A few hotlights)
What is that long fabric loop attached to faul's jacket? any ideas?
Who is the new "face in the crowd" Mary Queen of Scot?
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Post by DarkHorse on Oct 5, 2004 20:51:53 GMT -5
IWILL, this has nothing to do with your post but I noticed in your sig that you are LUCY, I am assuming from the 60IF board. Can I ask you something? Do you really believe Paul had IBS and was kidnapped and died from lack of medication? ? ?
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Post by revolver on Oct 5, 2004 21:27:07 GMT -5
I can see why they couldn't use an unretouched shot for the cover or gatefold. People might've said "who's that guy?"
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Post by Red Lion on Oct 5, 2004 22:16:53 GMT -5
I can see why they couldn't use an unretouched shot for the cover or gatefold. People might've said "who's that guy?" Good point. I believe they altered the shape of the top of Faul's head to match Paul's wax figure.
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Post by Morph on Oct 6, 2004 11:14:16 GMT -5
I can see why they couldn't use an unretouched shot for the cover or gatefold. People might've said "who's that guy?" Well, at this time his face hadn't yet solidified into the raised brow and pursed lips look yet... DoctorRobert, I just have the cover scan, unfortunately, but boots are available online, showing up on Ebay, Gemm, Musicstack iirc. I have no idea why that UPC is on there.
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Post by Morph on Oct 6, 2004 11:40:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2004 16:56:15 GMT -5
IWILL, this has nothing to do with your post but I noticed in your sig that you are LUCY, I am assuming from the 60IF board. Can I ask you something? Do you really believe Paul had IBS and was kidnapped and died from lack of medication? ? ? wow...talk about the proverbial spot...... no, actually, I don't....there is no proof, no trail to that end, yet, Ringo would be a far more likely canidate for that scenerio... 60if is what it is...but with out it, I dare say few of us would be gathered 'round working things out. It's simply undeniable. .....so it was the catalyst that started it ALL. Let's face it, there's three forums spun off from this, that I know of. So is it BS? maybe. maybe not. it dosen't really matter at this point. What really matters is that people have agreed to agree that somethig is rotten in Denmark. What I have noticed, though, is that all 60if'ers have been lumped into one lump catagory. Give or take a very few. ... and really, I'm just there as you are here....except over there we seem to have a less ridged format. We think. We say. We revise. We move on. There ae no taboo subjects or insider protocol .......that would stifle free-thought, so why do it? THIS is how we proceed. So Paul McCartney was replaced? OK. Let's prove a difficult proof. and BTW.....what does THAT REALLY MEAN TO US TODAY?
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Post by JoJo on Oct 6, 2004 21:45:50 GMT -5
Lucy, thanks for answering that question and continuing on further. If I may... It may be rigid in one sense, in that we confine ourselves to only was Paul replaced, and leave other incidentals out of it. But, isn't that really the bottom line? But whatever, the other underlying issues may indeed have a place in the discussion, it's just that we made the choice not to have them here. NIR need not be a clone of 60IF, and if one has ideas they wish to air and discuss along those lines, they are free to discuss them at your board, no? Maybe your board should be seen as a "general, all ideas welcome discussion of Paul's alleged replacement or death". Yes it's true that the 60IF board led to more boards, our first private one, and now this open one. And of course M4ever. The home of the ticked off at 60If... "Insider protocol"? Not sure what that means. But it's not fair to say that you are free to say whatever you like when you keep the door (mostly) locked. I can say whatever I want in a locked room too doncha think? 60IF? well... it's still on the "masthead" so to speak, so.. there it is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2004 9:42:23 GMT -5
Maybe your board should be seen as....... you keep .... First and foremost, please know I have absolutely nothing, nada, zilch to with any administation at 60if. I am merely a lowly poster there as I am here. NIR is as much "my forum" as 60if, I enjoy both worlds, so to speak........ But back to that trophy.....why would a football trophy have a ring (like Saturn) around it? That's pretty unusual. Why were the magicians quietly busy with stars, charts and telescopes in MMT and not something more mainstream like potions and spells? and the cover art on MMT of the word Tour says LOOK (mirrored) with a star pattern on it? Other accredited independent "news" forums I visit are having open discussions about recent moon and star anomalities, the waking of sleeping volcanos, earthquakes, harsh weather conditions......that in midfall this year, 2004, there will be specific star alignments. This October, there will appear, in sequence: * A Grand Quintile (Star/Pentagram) pattern, * A solar eclipse, * A Total Lunar Eclipse and * A second Grand Quintile pattern, all within the span of 28 days.....such an extra-ordinary sequence has not happened during the past 2,500 years. Could conditions be announcing the return of a possible Planet X? The trophy...the stars, the charts, what were they telling us?
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