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Post by LOVELYRITA on Feb 5, 2006 23:36:27 GMT -5
We are given the "Cracker Jack" explanation for the song, like it was Julian's drawing, and there is the real explanation. There is something dark and sinister behind it, the brotherhood of darkness and such sounds occultic, as well as the wording of the lyrics on this album. We are fed the candy coated ideas, and it covers the sinister depths of this project.
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Post by lili on Feb 6, 2006 13:58:41 GMT -5
Or, it could've just been the rantings of someone in the midst of a particularly vivid & strange acid trip. John did trip many, many times.
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Post by beacon on Aug 22, 2013 5:05:04 GMT -5
Just picked up on this thread after finding the images on another website, think it needs revisiting, especially as that looks like an OTO logo scribbled in on the right? What is clear, along with the Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds workings out, is the information in the top left corner that refers to this 1935 book, The Sacred Tarot: Doctrine of Kabalism, by Elbert Benjamine a.k.a C. C. Zain. This is clear proof of how, in 1967, the Beatles were highly immersed in the world of the occult, astrology and extra-sensory-perception. Also interesting is that whilst Benjamine founded The Church of the Light there was a very similarly named organisation called The Hermetic Brotherhood of Light which, according to Wiki… The Hermetic Brotherhood of Light was a Fraternity that descended from the Frates Lucis in the late 18th century (in turn, derived from the German Order of the Golden and Rosy Cross), and was the seed from which Ordo Templi Orientis was created. Carl Kellner and Paschal Beverly Randolph were members. In Theodor Reuss' 1917 O.T.O. Constitution, it states in Article 1, Section 1: Under the style and title: ANCIENT ORDER OF ORIENTAL TEMPLARS, an organization, formerly known as: "The Hermetic Brotherhood of Light", has been reorganized and reconstituted. This reconstituted association is an international organization, and is hereinafter referred to as the O.T.O.Coincidence or connection?
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Post by beacon on Aug 22, 2013 5:07:14 GMT -5
Just to add to that, I came across this also... Now I always thought that Fool on the Hill was a Paul composition, however, upon this scrap of paper we can see the song’s lyrics scribbled out in John’s hand. Now I am sure there is a perfectly plausible explanation for this, one which somebody here can probably provide, but, I was also interested in the other scribblings and what they may mean? Lighter yellow (Col) Diamond, for example, High E and, most curiously, Alchemy, sense of feeling? I maybe misinterpreting the spelling, but, I put this out there for your interpretation?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 6:51:42 GMT -5
lol
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Post by linus on Aug 22, 2013 14:35:24 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 23, 2013 20:36:02 GMT -5
Just to add to that, I came across this also... Now I always thought that Fool on the Hill was a Paul composition, however, upon this scrap of paper we can see the song’s lyrics scribbled out in John’s hand. Now I am sure there is a perfectly plausible explanation for this, one which somebody here can probably provide, but, I was also interested in the other scribblings and what they may mean? Lighter yellow (Col) Diamond, for example, High E and, most curiously, Alchemy, sense of feeling? I maybe misinterpreting the spelling, but, I put this out there for your interpretation? Screaming Lord Sutch - Jack The Ripper The very end of this song. The Melody to a song I learned in 2nd grade in Music Class, for Halloween: "We Are Here To Scare You!" This is a very odd picture. That is John's writing, obviously. That is the first point. His chicken scratch is unmistakable. Part of the whole Beatles myth is the idea of "Paul wrote the songs Paul sang, John wrote the songs John sang." The first deviation I can think of is "I'm So Tired." You can find a version in the Shoebox with Paul singing. Now, that doesn't mean much, in fact, I doubt it means anything. I imagine there are more examples. Better examples. I was always struck by Sgt. Pepper, John only has a few tracks on that album. Revolver as well. Magical Mystery Tour really only has "I Am The Walrus." To paraphrase George Martin (when asked if he preferred Lennon or McCartney): "I am a Music man myself, and so is Paul. John was more of a Lyric man, and had a great voice and ear, but as a Music man myself I tend to prefer Paul. Also, Paul would spend days crafting a song, while John often would record the track and be on to the next thing." There is also George's story about John asking to have his voice sound like a 1000 Llamas singing on top of the Himalayas. George (In his mind, I imagine): "How the hell am I going to do that?" These Abstract images in the picture above "Lighter Yellow", "Diamond", "High E", "Alchemy", "Sense of Feeling" are evocative. I tend to envision John as the final proof-reader of the group's lyrics. Perhaps this is 'Proof' of that. I recall hearing an interview with George Harrison where he mentions he wrote a few lines to "Eleanor Rigby" and a few to "Penny Lane", as well. I think it's safe to assume that the process of writing, the Music and the Lyrics, was more a communal affair than you might expect. Onto the fourth or fifth point, I stopped counting. The video for "Fool On The Hill" is generally considered a masturbatory exercise by Paul. He went with Mal back to France - perhaps a location they visited prior to their 'Trip' to Kenya - and didn't tell anyone about it. When they returned this footage of Paul frolicking and bullshitting the camera greeted the other Beatles. That is what I think makes the picture so odd. "Fool On The Hill" only shows would almost seem like a Paul 'Solo' song, with the video supporting that conclusion. Beatles treachery again. Onto the six or seventh point. The Hermetic Brotherhood of Eternal Light. The assertion is by 1967 practically everyone in the UK and US underground was caught up in Occultism. Lennon, being a Millionaire, could afford to purchase rare books and manuscripts, such as the book on "the B.E.L.". It's worth noting the Main Body of Crowley's work was Poetry. Crowley was a Poet, and a proponent of "Green Language". I have serious doubts Lennon collected, and kept truly rare occult books. That is my opinion. There are no pictures of him in a Library, and unlike Jimmy Page he never started a bookstore. That is my opinion. In my room I have about 40 books stacked in a corner: "The Golden Bough", "Legends of the World", "One Hundred Years Of Solitude", "The Story of The Ramones", "Scandinavian Folk & Fairy Tales", "The Complete Plays of Oscar Wilde", "Paths of Faith", "History of the Vikings", "History of the Devil", "Bob Dylan: Performances", "Leaves of Grass", "The Anti-Christ", "Body Language", "Swiftly Tilting Planet", "The Collected Writings of Sun Ra", "How To Mutate And Take Over The World", "Philosophy of New Music", etc. etc. Most of it is paperback/hardcover swill. I have boxes upon boxes of books in my attic that just take up space. I used to go to auctions and buy 100 books just because I saw one by Arthur Janov. This is what I do, and these are the things I will save: I go into the attic and get about 12 books. I spend the week skimming through them and taking notes in a Leather Notebook. I quote a paragraph here and there and write a commentary of exactly what interests me and move on. I write the Author, the Title, the Publisher and Publishing Date, and Page Number. Then I can go back. If I didn't do this I would probably lose my Mind. Onto the eight or ninth point. "Green Language" is Symbolic. Crowley was a Symbolic Poet and 90% of his writing was on the subject of Love. Whether Agape or otherwise. I studied "Liber 777" and "Liber Al Vel Legis" for about two years. I "Took To Heart" the Hebrew Alphabet and the Sephiroth. I even ventured into the Qliphoth, and "Memorized" that as well. It took me Four years to finally realize the "Table of Good and Evil Spirits" in The Magus by Francis Barrett was meant to be superimposed over the Night Sky, and that "Determining the Right and Just Names of Spirits" meant constructing names from the placement of Planets and Astral Bodies on the "Table". A person could spend 20 years with "The Magus" and still be lost in certain chapters, especially if you aren't a Freemason or in an Initiatory Cult. Certain ideas, like "Animal Magnetism of the Blood" are beyond average "Logic". With Occultism you have at least three options: 1) Go insane attempting to decipher the 'Nonsense' 2) Join an Initiatory Order 3) Realize it is all a scam and give it up. The Fourth Way is to understand all of the information is there help you be a better "Craftsman"; There are Limits. Obviously, this is what I believe everyone that isn't insane realizes at the end. I have over 3,000 books in my Library and I have seen Friends lose their minds just combing through my Library borrowing Books. I've gone to Friend's houses and seen my copy of "The Tibetan Book Of The Dead" in their Bathroom. Imagine, reading a Holy Writ while taking a Shit. That is the Level most people are on. "You FOOL!" I have special clothes I get dry cleaned after I wear them just to read certain books. My favorite book is "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch." Screaming Jay Hawkins - Whistling Past The Graveyard The tenth point: "...And though she feels as if she's in a play She is anyway." The Eleventh Point: Joe Meek murdered Bernard Oliver. Doesn't this whole "Suitcase Murder" nonsense remind you of IAMAPHONEY's Suitcase nonsense? Slightly? * * * * * I hate IAMEYE's and IWILL's posts that take 2 seconds to see and read. I try to compose posts you that actually have substance. With very few pictures. I like TEXT.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 23, 2013 20:44:37 GMT -5
Sun Ra: "I believe in Discipline and Precision."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 20:45:31 GMT -5
The tenth point: "...And though she feels as if she's in a play She is anyway."
I hate IAMEYE's and IWILL's posts that take 2 seconds to see and read. I try to compose posts you that actually have substance. With very few pictures. I like TEXT. You like TEXT? Well, SSC, first you must learn how to read seven simple letters. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/litterateurdictionary.reference.com/browse/textText [tekst] noun 1. the main body of matter in a manuscript, book, newspaper, etc., as distinguished from notes, appendixes, headings, illustrations, etc. read on! dictionary.reference.com/browse/textThink of it, like, a suitcase. Then go back and gather the other suitcases. Plenty to read, I assure you, providing you can read. Two seconds to read: A lifetime to understand.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 23, 2013 21:08:52 GMT -5
The tenth point: "...And though she feels as if she's in a play She is anyway."
I hate IAMEYE's and IWILL's posts that take 2 seconds to see and read. I try to compose posts you that actually have substance. With very few pictures. I like TEXT. You like TEXT? read on! dictionary.reference.com/browse/textThink of it, like, a suitcase. Then go back and gather the other suitcases. Plenty to read, I assure you, providing you can read. Two seconds to read: A lifetime to understand. Surely, Surely. The Blue Blazer. Sun Ra - Nothing Is "As night hath stars, more rare than ships In ocean, faint from pole to pole, So all the wonder of her lips Hints her innavigable soul. Such lights she gives as guide my bark; But I am swallowed in the swell Of her heart's ocean, sagely dark, That holds my heaven and holds my hell. In her I live, a mote minute Dancing a moment in the sun: In her I die, a sterile shoot Of nightshade in oblivion. In her my elf dissolves, a grain Of salt cast careless in the sea; My passion purifies my pain To peace past personality. Love of my life, God grant the years Confirm the chrism - rose to rood! Anointing loves, asperging tears In sanctifying solitude! Man is so infinitely small In all these stars, determinate. Maker and moulder of them all, Man is so infinitely great!" Aleister Crowley - At Sea
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 23, 2013 21:11:31 GMT -5
I haven't been here in Months. I have been lost at sea. My word, have I concocted a delicate caramel this time? Finally?
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 23, 2013 22:14:19 GMT -5
The Eleventh Point: Joe Meek murdered Bernard Oliver. Doesn't this whole "Suitcase Murder" nonsense remind you of IAMAPHONEY's Suitcase nonsense? Slightly? * * * * * I hate IAMEYE's and IWILL's posts that take 2 seconds to see and read. I try to compose posts you that actually have substance. With very few pictures. I like TEXT. Yes, the briefcase/suitcase murder does remind me of a theme playing out again. And that's why you shoot your landlady in your suicide bid. Because your landlady might help identify you, Joe Meek, other people, or even that boy that was found in pieces within a suitcase one day. Definitely take her out, especially if she overheard anything, or saw anyone coming or going.
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Post by linus on Aug 24, 2013 15:48:35 GMT -5
Part of the whole Beatles myth is the idea of "Paul wrote the songs Paul sang, John wrote the songs John sang." The first deviation I can think of is "I'm So Tired." You can find a version in the Shoebox with Paul singing. Now, that doesn't mean much, in fact, I doubt it means anything. I imagine there are more examples. Better examples. I read in either Tell Me Why by Tim Riley, or Revolution in the Head by Ian McDonald (or perhaps both), that Paul wrote Every Little Thing from Beatles For Sale, which was sung by John The Wikipedia entry also states this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Little_Thing_(song)"The song's composer is not in question: McCartney claimed the song as described above,[1] and Lennon said in an interview with Playboy that McCartney wrote it."
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 28, 2013 4:08:57 GMT -5
So Paul wrote "I'm A Loser"?
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 28, 2013 4:09:19 GMT -5
BS.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 28, 2013 4:12:30 GMT -5
Maybe. The Bass Lines at least...;
"Beneath this Mask I am wearing wearing a Frown."
That would be interesting, if you are being honest.
I deny it.
What do I know?
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 28, 2013 4:21:06 GMT -5
The Last message.
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Post by linus on Aug 28, 2013 23:22:35 GMT -5
"Every Little Thing" the song, from Beatles For Sale - not literally every little thing on the album.
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