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Post by bungalowbill on Nov 3, 2007 21:22:28 GMT -5
When John Lennon was asked about the origin of I am the Walrus, he claimed that he was inspired by the poem "The Walrus and the Carpenter" he claimed he did not understand what the Walrus was until rereading it, but I think Lennon knew exactly what he was talking about, if we assume that he did then Walrus is shorthand for conman, "I am a conartist" or "The real conman was/is Paul"
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Post by Jude on Nov 3, 2007 22:04:52 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Nov 3, 2007 22:57:17 GMT -5
Yes, the Walrus in that story was a con man, leading those oysters away from their protected environment so he could make dinner out of them. John said later "I was the walrus, now I'm John". I always took that as an expression of regret.
The con man can only succeed if he builds trust first.
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Post by bungalowbill on Nov 3, 2007 23:05:30 GMT -5
Another intersting part of the song is "I am He as You are Me and We are Alltogether" genreally that line is taken as a reference to Paul here, but if you look at it another way it is a reference to the common belief of the era that the Beatles were all essentially one person "John is Paul is George is Ringo" This was more common in the fab era (Please Please Me-Help)
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Post by Jude on Nov 4, 2007 1:22:38 GMT -5
Another intersting part of the song is "I am He as You are Me and We are Alltogether" genreally that line is taken as a reference to Paul here, but if you look at it another way it is a reference to the common belief of the era that the Beatles were all essentially one person "John is Paul is George is Ringo" This was more common in the fab era (Please Please Me-Help) On a similar note....people would also confuse their voices, particularly Americans. Even Playboy magazine, in the famous 1980 interview, when asking John about songs that he had written mentioned several songs that were John's and not his. I've made that mistake once or twice myself, but generally their voices are very different from each other and it's common knowledge that John and Paul never sang each other's songs, but only their own. |
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Post by stevenchrist on Nov 5, 2007 22:58:02 GMT -5
ok, the walrus.... hmmm, i'm thinkin' big , fat, slow, blubbery. Chumley!!! |
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Post by B on Nov 7, 2007 18:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by mindgames on Nov 8, 2007 13:55:54 GMT -5
Look at the stage in the background, it reminds me of that pyramid stage that someone posted last week. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Nov 17, 2007 16:20:20 GMT -5
I had read that in Scandinavia, walrus was symbolic of death. I wished I had the link that I had read that from, but that was some time ago.
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Post by pataphysical on Nov 17, 2007 17:10:57 GMT -5
Another intersting part of the song is "I am He as You are Me and We are Alltogether" genreally that line is taken as a reference to Paul here, but if you look at it another way it is a reference to the common belief of the era that the Beatles were all essentially one person "John is Paul is George is Ringo" This was more common in the fab era (Please Please Me-Help) On a similar note....people would also confuse their voices, particularly Americans. Even Playboy magazine, in the famous 1980 interview, when asking John about songs that he had written mentioned several songs that were John's and not his. I've made that mistake once or twice myself, but generally their voices are very different from each other and it's common knowledge that John and Paul never sang each other's songs, but only their own. One notable exception to this was Paul's "Eight Days a Week" which was given to John to sing. In my opinion, the enthusiastic multi-tracked vocals by John made the song a hit, and Paul made a wise choice here. Ironically, John wasn't a big fan of the song. |
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Post by iameye on Nov 17, 2007 18:38:28 GMT -5
 "The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of many things: Of shoes - and ships - and sealing-wax - Of cabbages - and kings - And why the sea is boiling hot - And whether pigs have wings." The origins of the word "walrus" has variously been attributed to combinations of the Dutch words walvis ("whale") and ros ("horse")[2] or wal ("shore") and reus ("giant").[3] However, the most likely origin of the word is the Old Norse hrossvalr, meaning "horse-whale", which was passed in a juxtaposed form to Dutch and the North-German dialects of the Hanseatic league as walros and Walross.[4]
O. rosmarus rosmarus
O. rosmarus divergens
O. rosmarus laptevi
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Post by plastic paul on Nov 17, 2007 20:19:01 GMT -5
On a similar note....people would also confuse their voices, particularly Americans. Even Playboy magazine, in the famous 1980 interview, when asking John about songs that he had written mentioned several songs that were John's and not his. I've made that mistake once or twice myself, but generally their voices are very different from each other and it's common knowledge that John and Paul never sang each other's songs, but only their own. One notable exception to this was Paul's "Eight Days a Week" which was given to John to sing. In my opinion, the enthusiastic multi-tracked vocals by John made the song a hit, and Paul made a wise choice here. Ironically, John wasn't a big fan of the song. John himself though said he regretted the fact that they were in such a rush that they couldn't make certain songs really good like they wanted to. He said he was disappointed with "Eight Days a Week" |
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Post by B on Nov 17, 2007 23:05:01 GMT -5
It was totally infectious to me when I heard it as a 13 or 14 year old.
I knew the minute I heard it that it would be a "number one" hit.
It captured the essence of the joy I felt about being "in love" with all my fantasy girl friends
(the ones I was way too shy to ever ask for a date; not that my parents would have
allowed it for me at that young age.)
It was a perfect expression of the joy of being in love. A great song just as it was.
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Post by mommybird on Nov 18, 2007 16:15:16 GMT -5
I too love that song.
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Post by 65if2007 on Nov 18, 2007 18:46:20 GMT -5
I too am very fond of "Eight Days a Week" and also of "And Your Bird Can Sing", which was another song of John's that he himself didn't like.
He was extremely critical of some of his best efforts.
And in spite of its political incorrectness, I like "Run for Your Life", which John said was the song that he regretted writing the most.
"Jealous Guy", I guess, was his way of making amends.
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