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Post by JoJo on May 5, 2006 22:14:50 GMT -5
Anyone remember this song? I'm sure the Doctor must, this was a gem from the AM radio days, I sure must have heard it 100's of times.. From this usenet post, the poster seems to think he hears Paul (Bill) in the harmony. Sure, there is a little of that "Get Back" voice here possibly. A great tune: Ma Belle AmieThe lyrics. Let the bells ring let the bird sing let's all give my substitute a big cheer. Let the bells ring. let the birds sing for the man after him waits here.
Another poster notes: The Tee Set was a Dutch quintet and its lead singer was David Peter Tetteroo. They took "Ma Bell Amie" to #5 in Jan. 70 and had a follow-up hit with :If You Do Believe in Love," which got to #70 in May of 1970. In the US, they were on the Colossus label.
You're not the only one who thought the song had Beatle-like overtones. So did Todd Rundgren and Utopia. Their Beatle "tribute" LP, "Deface the Music," was filled with mock-Fabs songs and arrangements, but they also included a snippet of the melody of "Ma Bell Amie" at the end of the song "Silly Boy" (which was sort of an "I'll Cry Instead"-type tune).
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Post by Doc on May 6, 2006 0:30:08 GMT -5
Well, yes, the lyric at the end of the chorus: "I'm in Love with You", is double tracked. On the left side you will hear the McCartney-esque voice, on the right, Peter Tetteroo mixed with that voice. Except at the very end, the next to last time or so, Teterroo's voice continues on that lyriic in the left channel alone......Peter sings most all of the song without help, and this other voice only comes in at the spot doubling that lyric. Well, maybe, I don't think it is a Beatle---I'll risk saying that. The voice has more of that tenor ring like Paul and or William; Tetteroo's voice quality thicker like a Cat Stevens or a Doby Grey(though not similar in style or accent, I am thinking only of the basic tone quality). Actually there is a certain way that the unidentified singer approaches the clinched vowel sound in "you", tense and closed, that reminds me of either James Paul in "What You're Doin'" or, actually, even John Lennon in some high note spots, for instance in Mr. Moonlight.
It's probably one of the Tee Set members who happens to just sound that way.......if I listen to it anymore tonight I will hear Carol Burnett.
Off-topic----I listened to Todd Rungren's song "I Saw the Light " and then Carole King's song "Jazzman", and in some spots-----well, listen yourself and see if you hear what I mean, the similarity. And that's bizarre. It's that unisex "tenor" that results when singers of either sex sing nasally through the "alto overlap"range : middle C to F or so.
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Post by JoJo on May 6, 2006 6:45:01 GMT -5
Thanks for your comments Doc. Probably nothing to this, but that is a great line about the replacement..
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Post by Doc on May 6, 2006 7:20:42 GMT -5
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Post by luvleerita on May 6, 2006 16:36:21 GMT -5
I remember the song and I thought I was Mc Cartney-esque. Was Bill producing their material? Just a strange thought...
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Post by JoJo on May 6, 2006 21:11:55 GMT -5
The joker in the cosmos, I like that..
It would seem there would be possible connections if we are talking about Who, Stones or Bowie songs for example that seemingly hint at our topic of discussion, but The Tee Set? Eh, but why not?
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Post by Paul Bearer on May 8, 2006 9:01:04 GMT -5
Just downloaded it. I haven't heard it in ages. Thanks.
Ma Belle Ami - may be more than a vague reference to "Michelle, ma belle..."
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Post by lili on May 9, 2006 9:03:22 GMT -5
I remember thinking as a child that one of the singers in this song sounded EXACTLY like "Paul". Since I only knew of one Paul, I couldn't understand why "Paul" would sing for another group. MA BELLE AMIE The Tee Set Ma belle amie You were a child of the sun And the sky and the deep blue sea Ma belle amie Apres tous les beaux jours Je te dis merci merci You were the answer of all my questions Before we're through I want to tell you that I adore you And always do That you amaze me by leaving me now And start a-new Ma belle amie I'm in love with you CHORUS Let the bells ring Let the birds sing Let's all give my substitute a big cheer Let the bells ring Let the birds sing For the man after him waits here For the man after him waits here Ma belle amie You were a child of the sun And the sky and the deep blue sea Ma belle amie There was a time that you thought That your only friend was me You were the answer of all my questions Before we're through I want to tell you that I adore you And always do That you amaze me by leaving me now And start a-new Ma belle amie I'm in love with you CHORUS From the Official Tee Set website: In 1969, they recorded their biggest hit, which was also the band's breakthrough in the USA, a fantastic song, called "Ma Belle Amie". This song got to No.3 in the US charts. www.betuwe.net/~tee-set/
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Post by luvleerita on May 9, 2006 22:22:50 GMT -5
I can hear that song in my ears, for some reason, a song by a one hit wonder would still seem so clear in my mind....perhaps the subject matter and the person's voice....very eerie.
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Post by Darthfaul on May 25, 2006 10:25:39 GMT -5
I love the song a lot. But you know, here in Thailand, there's another hit song of Tee Set. Maybe more famous than Ma Belle Amie. It's called "Linda Linda"
LINDA LINDA - lyric
Yes I'm here, but now I'm going away, far away from you my lovely Linda. But the memories of you always will stay and your precious grace I will remember, for the time you gave me nice and tender, for the love you gave me soft and sweet.
Linda Linda, my Linda, Linda Linda, I love you. The magic of your eyes, the spirit of your soul, the presence of your love my whole life through
Linda Linda, my Linda, Linda Linda, I love you. The magic of your eyes, the spirit of your soul, the presence of your love my whole life through
I remember how I met you that night With your eyes you simply called me over And the flames of our roaring inside Arab music play I felt in clover With your piercing and you make me weak And we danced the whole night cheek to cheek
Linda Linda, my Linda, Linda Linda, I love you. The magic of your eyes, the spirit of your soul, the presence of your love my whole life through
Linda Linda, my Linda, Linda Lin ye, l’il ya in Cherek é romana Ahèbe quen tu finne Chanel el quell comand Abhar tsi nin
Is there anything connected to Linda Eastman / McCartney ?
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Post by lili on May 25, 2006 13:29:40 GMT -5
Tee Set scored yet another hit with "Do It Baby" in 1975 - which turned out to be their last one, for a long while. Band members became involved with other projects… However, the demand for the group remained quite strong throughout the 70s, and so in 1979 they made a comeback with the fabulous song, "Linda Linda" - one of their best to date!
It was released in 1979. What were Faul/Bill & Linda doing that year ?
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Post by lili on Jun 29, 2006 10:05:00 GMT -5
I just bought a CD that I found in the discount bin in a Superfresh supermarket. It's called Super Hits of the '70's Have a Nice Day Vol. 2 It's a release from Rhino Records Inc. and it cost me $6.99 All the songs are by the original artists. This is the song line-up: 1) Love Grows ( Where my Rosemary goes ) 2) Ma Belle Amie 3) Spirit In The Sky 4) Reflections Of My Life 5) For The Love Of Him 6) Little Green Bag 7) Which Way You Going, Billy 8) My Baby Loves Lovin' 9) Hitchin' A Ride 10) United We Stand 11) Everything is Beautiful 12) Lay A Little Lovin On Me I listened carefully to Ma Belle Amie. It had been quite awhile since I heard it. I was once again taken aback by how much the man singing back-up sounds like Paul. Not Bill, Paul. During the chorus, the main singer sings "Ma Belle Amie". Right after that, the Paul sound alike sings "I'm in love with you". During the stanza the main singer sings, " The man after him waits here." After that, the Paul sound alike sings, " The man after him waits here !", His voice breaks on the word, "here". By the gods, he sounds exactly like Paul !
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Post by lili on Jun 30, 2006 16:38:36 GMT -5
I e-mailed the admin at the Tee Set Official website & asked about "Ma Belle Amie ". This is what I wrote to them: I am so sorry to read that Peter Tetteroo has passed away. I don't know if you would know the answer to my question. However, I feel that I must ask it. I'm sure that if you don't know the answer, you will know others who do. In the song "Ma Belle Amie", the backup singer sounds like Paul McCartney. What makes this especially interesting to me, is that I am one of many people who feel that the original Paul McCartney was replaced in November 1966 by an imposter. The person singing backup in "Ma Belle Amie " sounds like Paul himself. This song was released in 1970. Paul was replaced over three years by then. I personally believe that he died in late Sept., 1966. That makes this mystery even more important to me. It is also believed by some that Paul was having an affair with Sylvie Vartan in 1965. The song "Michelle" was written by him for her. I have to wonder if Paul knew Peter Terreroo, & recorded this song with the Tee Set. The words to " Ma Belle Amie " are important, in that he sings of being replaced by a "substitute", and that "the man after him waits here". I believe that song can also be about Sylvie Vartan. Could Paul have written it & given it to them ? Paul was replaced by Johnny Hallyday in Sylvie's life, when they married on April 12th,1965. It was a sham marriage of two pop idols, but it did effectively end her affair with Paul. When the person who sounds like Paul sings," I'm in love with you" & " The man after him waits here ", he sounds devastated. His voice actually breaks when he sings these words ! As I've previously stated, I believe that the man who is Sir Paul McCartney today is a "substitute" for the original man. I don't think that " Ma Belle Amie " is about that. However, I don't think that I can rule out the possibility that it does. If that is the case & Paul recorded this song after his disappearance in late Sept., 1966, then he might have still been alive after he was replaced in the Beatles. I have been researching this subject for the past 4 years. If you are interested in seeing some of the proof that has been offered concerning this, please visit these two websites: Nothing is Real - invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgiFrom the Sea of Green - only1rad.proboards62.com/ Any help that you can give me concerning this would be greatly appreciated. This was the 1st response: no its really peter and hans vaneiijck backing vocals nobody else the single is recorded in 1969 and again in 1970 there's nothing with paul i'm sure. My englisch is bath but the only englisch man on our band was Ray fenwick. The tee-set was not so famous they being famous with this song and is recorded on there on recordlabel in the netherlands. No really I'm sure and I now everything. By, Ingrid They live in the Netherlands, so I thought that her English was just fine. She seemed to be a very nice woman. I wrote her back asking if I could post this on the forum. This is what she wrote back to me: no not at all thay playing in the early years soulmusic the y call peter the small white boy with the negro voice. Ray fenwick have worked with spencer davis ian gillan and many others. Hans a think he sings the backing vocals but it can be also to times peters voice. Or POlle eduard that a other composer and singer from us. www.polle-eduard.comMy englisch is really bath but believe me there's nothing never be with the beatles only with other bands in the states when they are there in de bilboard hot 100 on 3 They are be famous all over the world this year there coming 13 albums and a dvd out from them also with work who's never be don't now how to say it be out before. But the band was dutch and recording the song here in the netherlands. look at the site from rayfenwick don't now the link anymore because where are not so kind to eact other some times. BY She really does seem to have a hard time with English. I was very pleased at her prompt response to my e-mails. I would appreciate any help I can get in deciphering these two e-mails. She seems rather adament in that it's not Paul singing backup in that song.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 30, 2006 18:28:59 GMT -5
Well, I was gonna say maybe you shouldn't mention the whole PWR angle, but she seems unfazed.. I only say that because experience has shown me that when you are looking for information from "official sources", they run away in horror unless you put on some kind of pose, such as that of an interested fan. Cool, thanks for taking the time to look into it Lili.
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Post by lili on Jul 1, 2006 5:24:05 GMT -5
I seem to have picked up a pen pal. She wrote me again & she really is extremely nice. She told me that she had photos of Paul on the walls of her room growing uop, because he was the handsome one of the Beatles. Well, I think alot of us can say the same thing. ;D I suggested again that she visit the forums. Let's see if she does. I have to check out the Ray Fenwick site when I get the chance.
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Post by gar on Jun 6, 2007 4:24:45 GMT -5
Hi there,
I've been a long time lurker, but I thought I'd sign up and post something for a change. When Peter Tetteroo died in september 2002 I was working as a journalist in that area and I did interviews with almost all old Tee Set members. Before that I interviewed Tetteroo a few times as well. It's most likely that the 'Paul voice' on Ma Belle Amie is actually Peter Tetteroo himself as Ray Fenwick, Hans van Eijck and Polle Eduard all had left Tee Set by the time that single was recorded. By the way, notice Peter Tetteroo on a gravestone on the cover of their first album Emotion, released in 1966. Scary cover for a debut!
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Post by Valis on Jun 6, 2007 5:29:03 GMT -5
welcome to the forums my friend,
good to see you're joining us in the deep end. 2007 Revelation Year
All Love Jan
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Post by Valis on Jun 6, 2007 7:14:08 GMT -5
here's the albumcover Gar is talking about. Too bad it's just a thumbnail, but it's clearly showing 4 bandmembers and a fifth lying on a grave. Reminding me a lot of George's BRAINWASHED albumcover. I hope someone can find a better scan, but there sure is something very wicked about this All Love Jan
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Post by il ras on Jun 6, 2007 9:25:48 GMT -5
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 20, 2007 19:22:57 GMT -5
Time to dust this one off again. "Ma Belle Amie" means "My Beautiful Friend" (And is addressed in the female syntax)In his "Memory Almost Full" album, Bill sings a song, "Mr. Bellamy". Now, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the connection. But watch the video, and listen to the words, and you'll see just who "Ma Belle Amie" is. In fact, he shows up right at the start. And you may notice that it's not the stretched, "Faulized" image. He's shown as he was. And he's "up there", and "not coming down". www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDOfzGOVbVE Here are the words, for double-checking, but watch the video! ;D(The words in white are Mr. Bellamy speaking. The words in yellow appear to be Bill's. The words in orange are the staff comments.) Mr. Bellamy I'm not coming down No matter what you do I like it up here without you All right, Mr. Bellamy We'll have you down soonNo one to tell me what to do No one to hold my hand Bellamy's got a lot to do And I hope that you'll understand Nobody here to spoil the view Interfere with my plans Bellamy's got a job to do And he's hoping you'll understand Steady, Lads, Easy Does It. Ooooh, Don't frighten him! Here we go...I'm not coming down No matter what say I like it up here anyway Sit tight, Mr. Bellamy; This shouldn't take long.In the delusionary state No wonder he's been feeling strange of late In the delusionary state No wonder he's been feeling strange of late.Nobody here to spoil the view Interfere with my plans Bellamy's got a job to do And he's hoping you'll understand Steady, Lads and Easy Does It Don't frighten him! Here we go... Here we go...I'm not coming down No matter what you I like it up here without you! Come come, come down, come down to me Come come, come down, come down to me Come come, come down, come down to me Come come, come down, come down to me (fades to end) _________________________________ He's up there, and he's not coming down. But he's not dead in this song. It sounds for all the world like he's institutionalized. I've color-coded in orange the words of the nurses' aides. Clearly they consider him dangerous. A madman to be dealt with. He's likely in a mental institution. A Momentary Lapse of Reason. But then, at the end, a gentle invitation is given by Faul. A gentle plea. But "no reply". The fool on the hill; living there still. Wandering on the banks of her own lagoon. At least, that's how it was, apparently. Bill's memory is almost full. He may have been thinking back on how it was in an earlier time.
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Jul 20, 2007 19:28:15 GMT -5
When I first heard the song, I took it as Bill is the one "not coming down", and the other voices ("We'll have you down soon") were his handlers or something to that effect.
I thought maybe, just maybe with the attempted break-in and his switching record labels that he was starting to wake up and defy his handlers.
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Jul 20, 2007 19:33:26 GMT -5
Also, it seems PauIMcCartney is advertising his "new secret single" on this and other videos.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 20, 2007 19:41:46 GMT -5
Yes, I didn't get what that was all about. (The secret single.)
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 20, 2007 20:31:41 GMT -5
Yes, I didn't get what that was all about. (The secret single.) Anything posted on youtube by an unknown entity is about as worthwhile as chasing a red herring or hunting snipes. -j
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Post by beatlies on Jul 23, 2007 1:51:51 GMT -5
Time to dust this one off again. "Ma Belle Amie" means "My Good Friend" (My 'beautiful' friend)In his "Memory Almost Full" album, Bill sings a song, "Mr. Bellamy". Now, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the connection. But watch the video, and listen to the words, and you'll see just who "Ma Belle Amie" is. In fact, he shows up right at the start. And you may notice that it's not the stretched, "Faulized" image. He's shown as he was. And he's "up there", and "not coming down". www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDOfzGOVbVE Here are the words, for double-checking, but watch the video! ;D(The words in white are Mr. Bellamy speaking. The words in yellow appear to be Bill's.) Mr. Bellamy I'm not coming down No matter what you do I like it up here without you All right, Mr. Bellamy We'll have you down soonNo one to tell me what to do No one to hold my hand Bellamy's got a lot to do And I hope that you'll understand Nobody here to spoil the view Interfere with my plans Bellamy's got a job to do And he's hoping you'll understand Steady, Lads, Easy Does It. Ooooh, Don't frighten him! Here we go...I'm not coming down No matter what say I like it up here anyway Sit tight, Mr. Bellamy; This shouldn't take long.In the delusionary state No wonder he's been feeling strange of late In the delusionary state No wonder he's been feeling strange of late.Nobody here to spoil the view Interfere with my plans Bellamy's got a job to do And he's hoping you'll understand Steady, Lads and Easy Does It Don't frighten him! Here we go... Here we go...I'm not coming down No matter what you I like it up here without you! Come come, come down, come down to me Come come, come down, come down to me Come come, come down, come down to me Come come, come down, come down to me (fades to end) _________________________________ He's up there, and he's not coming down. But he's not dead in this song. It sounds for all the world like he's institutionalized. I've color-coded in orange the words of the nurses' aides. Clearly they consider him dangerous. A madman to be dealt with. He's likely in a mental institution. A Momentary Lapse of Reason. But then, at the end, a gentle invitation is given by Faul. A gentle plea. But "no reply". The fool on the hill; living there still. Wandering on the banks of her own lagoon. At least, that's how it was, apparently. Bill's memory is almost full. He may have been thinking back on how it was in an earlier time. Ralph Bellamy played the evil doctor, Dr. Sapirstein, that conspires to ritually rape-impregnate, manipulate the pregnancy, and deliver the Fia Fauxrrow "magical child"-like baby of Satan in Rosemary's Baby, the movie that has strong overlaps and links with the Beatles and the Manson killings. From his wikipedia entry: Bellamy was a regular panelist on the television game show To Tell the Truth during its initial run. He also starred on the TV detective series Follow that Man. Garson On Broadway he appeared in one of his most famous roles, as Franklin Delano Roosevelt in Sunrise at Campobello. He later starred in the 1960 film version. On film, he also starred in Rosemary's Baby (1968) as a devilish physician, before turning to television during the 1970s. An Emmy Award nomination for the mini-series The Winds of War (1983), in which Bellamy reprised his Sunrise at Campobello role of Franklin Roosevelt, and a role as a conniving billionaire alongside Don Ameche in Trading Places (also 1983) brought him back into the limelight.
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