Ma Belle Amie

[mysteryboy]

Great song, and it does sound like JPM. And the bass line and playing is first-rate. That coupled with the weirdness of the LP cover, Very strange,
It was great hearing that song again, Thanks JoJo.

[mommybird]

As I stated, it wasn't Paul singing in it. What it confirms for me is how easy the human ear can be fooled. I heard it on the radio the other day, and my mind still refuses to believe that it's not Paul. How hard then was it for professionals to produce songs after Revolver with Paul sound alikes ? It obviously worked, because I know that I have a hard time telling which songs on SPLHCB are sung by Paul & which are not. I do know that most of the songs on that album are sung by Paul/Paul soundalikes. Before that album was recorded, John & Paul usually had the same number of songs. George would get one or two per LP & Ringo would get one. I believe that two of the reasons that there are so many Paul songs are:
1) John was intent on recording & releasing all of Paul's material before they had to reveal the truth in the matter.
2) There were a few different voices auditioning for the part. I guess they wanted to see if the public would notice that something wasn't right.

[fourthousandholes]

beatlies, your post # 24 is intriguing.

[mysteryboy]

mommybird said:

As I stated, it wasn't Paul singing in it.

And you know this for certain, how? You know this based on an email from a woman you don't know, and who doesn't know you and can barely manage speaking/typing English. Also, just for future reference, it might be wise not to state you're from a PID site when seeking answers from possible sources.

What it confirms for me is how easy the human ear can be fooled.

You've just insulted two pairs of extremely finely tuned ears, which are certainly aren't alone on this site. It may not be JPM, but it is obviously someone trying to sound like him. Why on Earth would a band instruct a band member or find someone who can imitate a certain Beatle to sing a few harmonies on their track? Not to mention the obvious bass playing and style.

I heard it on the radio the other day, and my mind still refuses to believe that it's not Paul.

You should really just trust your own ears on this one, not the lady you don't know. Beside that, if there is/was something to hide, she's certainly not going to tell a stranger.

Incidentally, I played this track for my partner, who had never heard it before, being that she's of a younger generation. She instantly said, "That's Paul... or Bill," when the noted harmonies came in. I hadn't prompted her or even informed her that I got the MP3 from this site. It was a completely objective and spontaneous reaction from a very fine pair of ears. She also noted the irony of the French and the lyrics right after making the Paul/Bill reference.

How hard then was it for professionals to produce songs after Revolver with Paul sound alikes ?

Not very. But that's the point, kind of. Why would you have a JPM sound-a-like on your track for a grand total of maybe ten seconds? That combined with the lyrics and bass playing/style, I'd say it was done for a reason and I don't believe it should just be patently dismissed, especially based on a stranger's email. I'm not saying it IS Paul, but it is obviously someone who sounds like him.

[plastic paul]

Just listened and yes it does have that Beatle sound to the harmonising but I doubt it is JPM/Faul, however, having not heard the song before, if somebody had taken away the main guys voice and played me the harmonies as being JPM/Faul then I'd have probably been inclined to believe them.

It does make me think more about songs being passed of as a particular artist when in fact it may not be them, and not just with the Beatles...

[beatlies]

fourthousandholes said:

beatlies, your post # 24 is intriguing.

Ralph Bellamy is probably the most famous Mr. Belliaamy (reminds me of "Mr. Belvedere!") so at the very least they should have knwon that people would make that connection.

[ccinri]

There is another Bellamy, Francis Bellamy, who penned the Pledge of Allegiance for a company that was selling flags to schools in 1892. Wikipedia says he was a socailist author, and initially the phrase "under God"was omitted. Bellamy stated that the purpose of the pledge was to teach obedience to the state as a virtue. An early version of the salute, adopted in 1892, was known as the Bellamy salute. It ended with the arm outstretched and the palm upwards, but began with the right hand outstretched, palm facing downward. (Like the Nazis!) After World War II the custom was changed: today the Pledge is said from beginning to end with the right hand over the heart.

[mysteryboy]

Apologies to Mommybird. I incorrectly cited you, rather than lili, as the person who emailed the rep. (and apologies to lili as well, as well as a thank you for taking the time out to actually pursue that).

And thank you for addressing the section of the song where the singer(s) sing "the man after him waits here" which also sounds like JPM and or Bill.
It's important to distinguish which harmonies are being addressed. The harmonies before the line "the man after him waits here" do not sound like JPM or Bill, but to our ears there is pitch-shifting going on there. This was a very well-produced and well-crafted song.

edit" "pitch-shifting" back then involved speeding up or slowing down the tape.

[CoconutFudge]

I haven't ever heard that, thanks. I have to say, it is Paulish/Billish, but I don't personally think it sounds identical to Paul's (or Bill's) voice. There's something different that I can't put my finger exactly on. The lines of the song are quite interesting when paired with the Paul imitating, though.

[B]

♫♫♫♫♫♫ TEE SET MA BELLE AMIE 1969
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWP_Md78mk8


Ma belle amie
You were a child of the sun
And the sky and the deep blue sea

Ma belle amie ...................My good friend
Apres tous les beaux jours............After all the beautiful days
Je te dis merci merci.................I say to you "thank you"

You were the answer of all my questions;

Before we're through
I want to tell you that I adore you
And always do

That you amaze me - by leaving me now
And start a-new
Ma belle amie I'm in love with you

Let the bells ring

Let the birds sing

Let's all give my substitute a big cheer

Let the bells ring
Let the birds sing
For the man after him waits here...........the man after the substitute
For the man after him waits here

Ma belle amie
You were a child of the sun
And the sky and the deep blue sea

Ma belle amie
There was a time that you thought
That your only friend was me

You were the answer of all my questions;
Before we're through
I want to tell you
that I adore you
And always do

That you amaze me - by leaving me now
And start a-new
Ma belle amie I'm in love with you
--------------------------------


Paul McCartney-The End of the End
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTht9VqZAe4


The End Of The End

At the end of the end
It's the start of a journey
To a much better place
And this wasn't bad
So a much better place
would have to be special
No need to be sad

On the day that I die I'd like jokes to be told
And stories of old to be rolled out like carpets
That children have played on
And laid on while listening to stories of old

At the end of the end
It's the start of a journey
To a much better place
And a much better place
Would have to be special
No reason to cry

(whistling)

On the day that I die I'd like bells to be rung
And songs that were sung to be hung out like blankets
That lovers have played on
And laid on while listening to songs that were sung

At the end of the end
It's the start of a journey
To a much better place
And a much better place
Would have to be special
No reason to cry
No need to be sad
At the end of the end
-----------------------------

A whole lotta bell ringin' goin on here. Perhaps more than might ordinarily accompany a funeral.
Sounds more like a celebration. In both instances.

Is 'Paul McCartney' all that important, that joyous bells should peal on the occassion of his death?
Was Paul McCartney all that important that joyous bells should be rung when his replacement took over?

No, there's more to this than the death of a rock star, which, under most circumstances,
would tend to be something of a greivous occassion.

What's being celebrated is the end of THE END, which, as the McCartney song points out,
is a new beginning. In the Tee set song, the man after the substitute "waits here".
So who is that man?

You have: Paul, then Faul, then the man after the substitute.

So who is the man who comes after Faul dies (presumably at the end of THE END)?

The Pied Piper, obviously. The one who leads all into the new beginning.
A new Moses, or Christ himself, perhaps.
After all, JC promised to come at 'the end'.
But we'll see.....

[B]

Of course, some would say I missed a sublte point:

That you amaze me - by leaving me now
And start a-new
Ma belle amie I'm in love with you

Let the bells ring

Let the birds sing

Let's all give my substitute a big cheer

Let the bells ring
Let the birds sing
For the man after him waits here...........the man after the substitute
For the man after him waits here

'Belle Amie' is in the female gender, in French. She wasn't his 'bon ami' (good friend, masculine).
She was his "pretty {girl} friend", who is leaving him,
thereby amazing him, for she is going to "start anew".

Then he cheers her on: "Let's all give my substitute a big cheer"
He actually sings "a big gear":



So his substitute is his beautiful girl friend, who impresses him as she is going to start anew.

Hence, we're back to Faul as a woman, etc. (Calling GN! ;D)

But I think the metaphor is: After Christ (masculine) died, he sent the Holy Spirit (feminine),
who will suffice 'til The End, and His return.

Ergo: Faul, possibly shown as being baptised on the white album poster, led by the 'holy spirit' of Paul, channels the feminine guidance
'til the time of his death, when "the man after him", who awaits 'here' in the "Nether" - lands
takes on the job.

[iameye]

Lighting up the sky with the Message at the Carnival Of Light




Looks like ink pouring out of the frame, eh?




Bells will ring out for our love!

It's the start of a journey
To a much better place
And a much better place
Would have to be special


Yes, it would have to pretty special, indeed. Sing, 'til we're high together, Fireman.

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Feb 4, 2011 16:03:14 GMT -5 B said:

Of course, some would say I missed a sublte point:

That you amaze me - by leaving me now
And start a-new
Ma belle amie I'm in love with you

Let the bells ring

Let the birds sing

Let's all give my substitute a big cheer

Let the bells ring
Let the birds sing
For the man after him waits here...........the man after the substitute
For the man after him waits here

'Belle Amie' is in the female gender, in French. She wasn't his 'bon ami' (good friend, masculine).
She was his "pretty {girl} friend", who is leaving him,
thereby amazing him, for she is going to "start anew".

Then he cheers her on: "Let's all give my substitute a big cheer"
He actually sings "a big gear":



So his substitute is his beautiful girl friend, who impresses him as she is going to start anew.

Hence, we're back to Faul as a woman, etc. (Calling GN! ;D)

But I think the metaphor is: After Christ (masculine) died, he sent the Holy Spirit (feminine),
who will suffice 'til The End, and His return.

Ergo: Faul, possibly shown as being baptised on the white album poster, led by the 'holy spirit' of Paul, channels the feminine guidance
'til the time of his death, when "the man after him", who awaits 'here' in the "Nether" - lands
takes on the job.

Well, according to the Hopi and Maya, we're entering the fifth world, which is the world of the devine feminine.

[B]

The Devine masculine wasn't so hot....

[jarvitronics]

;D Ma Bell Tee (and BelT)




Imagine that!



-j

[B]

What's that eye see?

[jarvitronics]

-j

[iameye]

Feb 5, 2011 12:37:46 GMT -5 jarvitronics said:

-j

exactly

the oval office

[jarvitronics]

Speaking of Oreos...





-j

[B]

Wings at the speed of sound.