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Post by That Latvian Guy on Jul 5, 2007 12:16:29 GMT -5
The word "Imagine" was not invented by John. Please explain what you mean to communicate by this. I don't get the gist of your letter. (Sincerely, Billy Budapest). -j That thing about anagrams could be more likely if the word "imagine" would be thought up by him. If he would write a song called something like "zhjhsfhasfkasfjafse" and it would be an anagram, I would understand your point.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 5, 2007 12:20:30 GMT -5
Please explain what you mean to communicate by this. I don't get the gist of your letter. (Sincerely, Billy Budapest). -j That thing about anagrams could be more likely if the word "imagine" would be thought up by him. If he would write a song called something like "zhjhsfhasfkasfjafse" and it would be an anagram, I would understand your point. Oh I see what you mean. Yes of course John couldn't "invent" that anagram -- but he *could* recognize it, and choose to write a song because of it. -j
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 5, 2007 12:27:03 GMT -5
jarvitronics wrote: Who was in the sky? Lucy was.Don't you mean "Lucie"? Lucifer in the sky with Diamonds. Does this mean the song is really "Lucifer in Disguise With Demons?" -j
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 5, 2007 12:29:58 GMT -5
jarvitronics wrote: "(If you haven't been to TKIN you probably won't get this humorous little ditty...)"Sadly, crownedjoe "came to his senses" and disavowed all he'd written, and took down the related sites. I liked him better when he was "crazy".
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 5, 2007 12:41:34 GMT -5
jarvitronics wrote: Who was in the sky? Lucy was.Don't you mean "Lucie"? Lucifer in the sky with Diamonds. Does this mean the song is really "Lucifer in Disguise With Demons?" -j Update on this: Our English word "demon" is derived from the Greek, which is DAIMON. -j
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Post by That Latvian Guy on Jul 5, 2007 14:24:49 GMT -5
Does this mean the song is really "Lucifer in Disguise With Demons?" -j Update on this: Our English word "demon" is derived from the Greek, which is DAIMON. -j So that's why Damon Hill was a hell of a good driver ;D
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Post by iameye on Jul 5, 2007 15:43:27 GMT -5
Eta Carina? "where's the bus? where's the bus? where's the bus?" "it's comming" MMT the movie, 4 or 5 magician scene Sister Suzie, brother John, Martin Luther, Phil And Don, Brother Michael, Auntie Gin, Open the door and let 'em in. (Let 'Em In) Whenever I hear the word "door" in any Beatles post-Pepper work I think of Diana Dors. There she is on the cover of Pepper, obscuring the RAOB "brother" from full view. (Does that make her a jar? heh.) Her name is Diana, who in mythology is Apollo's twin sister. What do you know? Apollo! Now back to the revolution/revelation thing: Revelation 9:1: The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss.The FIFTH angel? (Fifth Beatle?) Sounded his TRUMPET? (Ringo has the trumpet). A star fallen to Earth? (There is a fallen star on Sgt Pepper, lower left. Who was in the sky? Lucy was.) The STAR was given the KEY? (STARKEY!) The shaft of the Abyss? (Abbey? road) A shaft can be a tunnel or a beam of light, but it can also mean SOMEBODY GOT SCREWED. -j
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 5, 2007 17:23:19 GMT -5
Eta Carina? "where's the bus? where's the bus? where's the bus?" MMT the movie, 4 or 5 magician scene Eta Carinae the huge monster star? Eta as in the 7th letter of the Greek alphabet? Carina, as in a boat or vessel? Not sure what you are trying to say here... -j
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Post by iameye on Jul 5, 2007 18:28:26 GMT -5
I dunno my point, J. Unconnected recurring themes? 1,2,3,4,5,6, 7 all good children go to heaven hubblesite.org/gallery/album/entire_collection/pr2007016i/Carina, Carrina, Gal, where you been so long? Carina, Carina, Girl, where you been so long? I been worr'in' 'bout you, baby, ever since you been gone ah, the wind stopped blowin' but it's raining in my heart I said the wind stopped blowin' but it's raining in my heart it's bad enough on the beach but it's sure hell in sea baby, baby, baby what you doing to me ah baby what you doing to me it's bad enough on the beach but it's hell in the sea "Carina was originally part of the large constellation Argo Navis. When the International Astronomical Union officially defined the 88 constellations and their boundaries, they split Argo Navis into 4 parts: Carina (the keel), Vela (the sail), Puppis (the poop), and Pyxis (the compass)." www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/constellations/Carina.html
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 5, 2007 20:20:54 GMT -5
You Won't See Me: You won't see me Don't Pass Me By: I don't see you Nowhere Man: Nowhere man can you see me at all And Your Bird Can Sing: But you can't see me / You can't see me
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 6, 2007 1:15:55 GMT -5
jarvitronics wrote: Who was in the sky? Lucy was.Don't you mean "Lucie"? Lucifer in the sky with Diamonds. Funny thing about Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds... Lucian (circa 120-180 A.D.) was the very first science fiction novelist, writing stories about going to the Moon and to Venus. Lucian "The Sky." One of his best know works is Philopseudes, which was the basis for Goethe's "Sorcerer's Apprentice," and subsequently Disney's Fantasia. -j
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 6, 2007 10:26:09 GMT -5
ah, the wind stopped blowin' but it's raining in my heart I said the wind stopped blowin' but it's raining in my heart it's bad enough on the beach but it's sure hell in sea baby, baby, baby what you doing to me ah baby what you doing to me it's bad enough on the beach but it's hell in the sea This is Lennon in his brilliance. The song appears to be about Bob Dylan finding Jesus. (Note the not so subtle invocation of Blowin' In The Wind, and of course Dylan's own cover of the folk song Corrina Corrina.) The funny thing is where Lennon says, "it's hell in the sea," making a play on The Holy See. At the same time, the references to water and the fact that Carinae is "the keel," or the part of the boat that sits in the water, is why I love Lennon's work. Freaking genius. -j
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 6, 2007 17:07:41 GMT -5
Also with the idea of "brotherhood"...a term used for members of a secret order...secret cult...religion order... Sir Paul's longtime residence is in Saint John's Wood. (Abbey Road Studios are also located in the St John's Wood area). This area was once owned by The Knights of Saint John of Jerusalem, aka Knights of Malta, aka Templars aka freemasons. All masonic lodges are dedicated to Saint John, and the notion of a "sacred grove" is a central theme to most occult systems. (Including Mormons). In freemasonry, the acacia tree has special significance. -j
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jul 6, 2007 18:56:11 GMT -5
jarvitronics wrote: Who was in the sky? Lucy was.Don't you mean "Lucie"? Lucifer in the sky with Diamonds. Does this mean the song is really "Lucifer in Disguise With Demons?" -j Something that I know from studying the Bible, that stars were referred to when the red dragon was cast down that with his tail he drew a 1/3 of the stars with him, meaning the fallen angels or "demons" with him. "principalities of the air" which would be part of atmosphere or sky, and that is another term for satan and his demonic host. So he's in the sky with his fallen ones.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 6, 2007 19:07:01 GMT -5
Something that I know from studying the Bible, that stars were referred to when the red dragon was cast down that with his tail he drew a 1/3 of the stars with him, meaning the fallen angels or "demons" with him. "principalities of the air" which would be part of atmosphere or sky, and that is another term for satan and his demonic host. So he's in the sky with his fallen ones. The Mormons teach that every human being lived in spirit form with Father and Jesus (also in spirit form) before we came to Earth to get bodies and be tested. (They believe Father and Jesus are separate beings, and that Jesus was the firstborn spirit child of Father. They believe Father has a perfected body of flesh and bone that is impervious to age, disease, or accident.) During that preexistence, Lucifer (also in spirit form - at this point only Father has a body) rebelled against Jesus and Father and convinced 1/3 of the spirits there to follow him. Those of us who chose to side with Father and Jesus got bodies and the rebellious 1/3 are here on Earth constantly tempting us. These are the so-called demonic spirits. -j
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Post by Jude on Jul 7, 2007 4:51:27 GMT -5
This thread is making my head hurt. And yet, bits of it kinda make sense... *MUST SLEEP!*
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 8, 2007 20:38:32 GMT -5
Yellow Submarine: And the band begins to play Sgt Pepper: Sgt Pepper taught the band to play
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Post by Jude on Jul 9, 2007 7:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by il ras on Jul 9, 2007 21:33:36 GMT -5
1st try, 1st surprise
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jul 9, 2007 21:47:54 GMT -5
Yeah, "Paul" was the first one I tried too and was also surprised about it... "I buried Paul..."
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 10, 2007 13:05:23 GMT -5
I never really thought of that, jarvitronics. Thematically, the two songs are very much alike, though I think the Fool was written about a man no one sees, like a ghost or something (Sir Paul did say it was based on an encounter he had with an apparition). I think Nowhere Man is an actual person. FOTH: Nobody wants to know him/nobody ever hears him.... NM: Isn't he a bit like you and me/Leave it all till somebody else lends you a hand.... Maybe I'm wrong. But unless the story about seeing an apparition on a hill was fabricated, I'd go with the ghost theory in regards to FOTH. In Yellow Submarine, the Nowhere Man is named Jeremy HILary Boob. A boob is a fool. Hilary Boob = Hill Fool Jeremy means 'God will set free.' -j
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 12, 2007 22:09:32 GMT -5
Decapitation.
Many people on Sgt Pepper died via decapitation, or played a role where their character died from decapitation, or wrote a story or poem about someone who died from decapitation. Consider the hyacinths. Hyacinthus died when his head was crushed. Then there are the lyrics: He blew his mind out in a car. You were in a car crash and you lost your hair.
Here is the decapitation connection...
The Illuminati Capstone, which floats over the decapitated Great Pyramid, is the uppercase Greek letter Delta, the letter D, a D-Cap.
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Legend says that when the Illuminati have completed The Great Wok, then the decapitated Great Pyramid will receive its new D-Cap.
/c\ See? The Mark is D, man.
Aye, I Eye.
-j
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 13, 2007 0:49:56 GMT -5
The recurring theme of The Hand over Paul has been argued back and forth as to whether it is a symbol of death in some culture. It doesn't matter one way or the other. Read the rebus instead:
Paul is underhanded.
Paul is under hand. Dead.
-j
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Post by mommybird on Jul 13, 2007 13:43:56 GMT -5
Jarv wrote: Decapitation.
Many people on Sgt Pepper died via decapitation, or played a role where their character died from decapitation, or wrote a story or poem about someone who died from decapitation. Consider the hyacinths. Hyacinthus died when his head was crushed. Then there are the lyrics: He blew his mind out in a car. You were in a car crash and you lost your hair.
Here is the decapitation connection...
The Illuminati Capstone, which floats over the decapitated Great Pyramid, is the uppercase Greek letter Delta, the letter D, a D-Cap.
What if Paul died because he was shot in the head, causing part of his head to disperse in a spray of bone & tissue ? I hope that I'm not being too graphic here.
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Post by beldabeast on Jul 13, 2007 15:18:38 GMT -5
Jarv wrote: Decapitation.
Many people on Sgt Pepper died via decapitation, or played a role where their character died from decapitation, or wrote a story or poem about someone who died from decapitation. Consider the hyacinths. Hyacinthus died when his head was crushed. Then there are the lyrics: He blew his mind out in a car. You were in a car crash and you lost your hair.
Here is the decapitation connection...
The Illuminati Capstone, which floats over the decapitated Great Pyramid, is the uppercase Greek letter Delta, the letter D, a D-Cap.
What if Paul died because he was shot in the head, causing part of his head to disperse in a spray of bone & tissue ? I hope that I'm not being too graphic here. Be Graphic ! This situation could not more serious !
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