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Post by JoJo on Apr 4, 2004 17:18:45 GMT -5
What I did here is string together clips from the 1966 Revolver press conference with clips from 1967 interviews with our alleged imposter including the LSD interview, along with a couple of others. It's just a video way of going back and forth from one to the other rather than using stills. It's sorta big, 39MB, but that's as small as I could go without making it impossible to make out the details, and the source material is not so great to begin with. Check it out if you can!  www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/66_67interviews.mpg |
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Post by revolver on Apr 4, 2004 21:12:38 GMT -5
Great work JoJo!
Appearance differences aside, the voice differences are most noticeable. Paul's voice sounds much more Liverpudlian, more like George's. At first I thought it was George speaking. Faul's sounds more cosmopolitan and refined, more like an imitation of Paul. I'm sure the voice prints wouldn't match.
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Post by revolver on Apr 4, 2004 22:20:14 GMT -5
Just for kicks, here're two samples from the interviews of Paul and Faul saying "really" along with their visual wave forms (as displayed by the Reverse Speech Professional program). I'm no voiceprint authority but they do look and sound different. Paul saying "really" Faul saying "really" One thing that is noticeable is how much Faul's voice sounds much more like today's Sir Faul than James Paul's voice: sightly higher and more nasal. Of course, that's to be expected if they're the same person. For comparision, here's a clip of Sir Faul saying "really" in a recent interview. |
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Post by revolver on Apr 8, 2004 21:56:10 GMT -5
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Post by madtitan125 on Apr 8, 2004 23:13:38 GMT -5
It's the existence of evidence like this that makes it hard for me to believe that the truth about Paul's replacement can remain a secret forever.
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 9, 2004 0:04:56 GMT -5
Yup, 2 different people. Therefore Paul must be dead.
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Post by madtitan125 on Apr 9, 2004 0:14:57 GMT -5
No. Not necessarily dead, but why else would they replace him?
If Paul had just moved on, I don't think that would have changed their collective demeanor so drastically.
I would like to think maybe he just left the band, but why then all the death clues/references?
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 9, 2004 0:27:29 GMT -5
What death clues?
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Post by madtitan125 on Apr 9, 2004 0:41:55 GMT -5
Only every clue hidden on their albums!
The Sgt Pepper cover? Revolution #9? I buried Paul?
Do any of these ring a bell?
You've got to be pulling my leg....quit kidding!
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Post by Doc on Apr 9, 2004 1:02:36 GMT -5
Well, the many elements that some people have percieved as death clues.
Perceptions of lots of little things by fans.
And the flowers on the front of Pepper. Flowers in themselves prove nothing, yes, but pictured as they are on Pepper they might lead someone to an impression of a funeral.
Maybe it is all impressions, in part led by the reactions of some.
It is hard sometimes to divide when our impressions have truly originated solely from our observations, and when they have been "guided" by others.
And when does the myriad of all that weight of individual perceptions coallesce into the phoenomenon of mass opinion?
The big question: In any matter, is the prevailing consensus destined to express the literal truth?
Probably not.
So then, the seeking of literal truth must then, sometimes, be the birth of controversy. Mankind is kept wrestling on key issues. And so he is long restrained from a factual solution. Mankind may in one instance arrive at a truth, and not recognize it for all the planned confusion.
Planned Confusion. Initials are P.C...............Interesting.
P.S. Mad Titan, I started my post before I read yours. I do feel that all the clues exist. However, from the standpoint of tangible indications, and logic, and trying to be unbiased, I see where to many folks the clues are either little nothings that we take the ball and run with, or deliberate jokes and teasers planted by a jokester Beatle for reasons heretofore un fessed up to. So, I know the FP is skeptical, I try to see with his glasses.
We forget, plenty of people (if anymore they care, cause many don't) see the clues as folklore, amusements, a creative game meant to attract more fans. At least, this is the reaction some have expressed to me when I ask. Actually, one reaction I got was, "Are you kidding? That hoax was disproved decades ago" and another was, "Record covers don't mean anything, man, its all a joke." No effective arguments exist for these.
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 9, 2004 1:16:04 GMT -5
What about it? Any death clues in Revolution #9? You did? |
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Post by Doc on Apr 9, 2004 2:44:58 GMT -5
No, no, no, it was Lennon, while eating cranberry sauce, which of course proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was at America's THANKSGIVING! (Unless Brits traditionally eat cranberry sauce at Halloween, I dunno.........where's my almanac..............) Now, really, FP, don'tcha' think Lennon was slippin' in little innuendos and clues at every opportunity he could find? But, I know that you might not perceive John that way. But, back to topic---the photos--actuakky, the footage between the two interviews seems to imply different people. But, the footage of the "marijuana" interview, the one with Paul in the white suit, where he talks about the legal and social perceptions of pot use etc, at some length, sitting in that little chair, really seem very different from the LSD interview person. I am getting a picture more and more from these old vids of Paul's elocution, and manner, and accent, and emphasis, and I can see where, if there was a replacement (or two!) painstaking observations about his "idiosyncrasies" were made. The "Paul" in Strawberry Fields seems distant from the LSD Paul; the "Paul" in Penny Lane is, to me, not compatible with the LSD Paul, either. And Harrison starting with Pepper has some striking changes, to me at least. The addition of facial hair does do a lot to change one. But his jaw and chin have a different look to them, to me. Now, the voice seems to agree peprfectly. And demeanor and such. But I almost WANT to think that George and John both had a little work done simulaneously, just to make everybody look older, more mature. Just my own opinion. Lennon's nose, long, angled, and beaky from the start, becomes more defined and thinner. Of course he lost weight. His eyes look dead later; drugs were draining everybody in 1967. And then there is Ringo, timeless, unchanging, and always a smile, a stiff upper lip. Ringo had a very stable mind. Physically, Ringo seems to never change drastically, only get gradually older. Paul gets older, then younger, then younger still, then starts to get older again. (Just my opinion.) I am repeating myself. I am out of things to add. Why do I post?  |
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Post by revolver on Apr 9, 2004 13:15:35 GMT -5
But, back to topic---the photos--actuakky, the footage between the two interviews seems to imply different people. But, the footage of the "marijuana" interview, the one with Paul in the white suit, where he talks about the legal and social perceptions of pot use etc, at some length, sitting in that little chair, really seem very different from the LSD interview person. I am getting a picture more and more from these old vids of Paul's elocution, and manner, and accent, and emphasis, and I can see where, if there was a replacement (or two!) painstaking observations about his "idiosyncrasies" were made. The "Paul" in Strawberry Fields seems distant from the LSD Paul; the "Paul" in Penny Lane is, to me, not compatible with the LSD Paul, either. ... Paul gets older, then younger, then younger still, then starts to get older again. (Just my opinion.) I don't believe there were multiple replacements. I can still see the same facial elements of today's "Paul" in the LSD interview version. Look at the top still. And his voice seems to have remained pretty constant since then. Not to mention the difficulty of finding yet another Paul look-alike with musical talent, left-handed guitar playing etc. |
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Post by revolver on Apr 9, 2004 20:16:40 GMT -5
Only every clue hidden on their albums! The Sgt Pepper cover? Revolution #9? I buried Paul? Do any of these ring a bell? You've got to be pulling my leg....quit kidding! Don't forget about Paul is dead, man; miss him, miss him, miss him... |
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 9, 2004 20:35:06 GMT -5
Only every clue hidden on their albums! The Sgt Pepper cover? Revolution #9? I buried Paul? Do any of these ring a bell? You've got to be pulling my leg....quit kidding! Okay, I was half joking. It's just that a lot of the "clues" made (PF)aul stand out, instead of saying he was dead, and most of them are probably coincidences with explanations. |
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Post by JoJo on Apr 9, 2004 21:05:30 GMT -5
Thanks to TKIN! for the stills. Uh no... He "borrowed" them without asking.. If they got another person thinking, that's cool, but it's just a little bit annoying, mmkay?  |
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Post by Red Lion on Nov 4, 2004 22:12:59 GMT -5
What I did here is string together clips from the 1966 Revolver press conference with clips from 1967 interviews with our alleged imposter including the LSD interview, along with a couple of others. It's just a video way of going back and forth from one to the other rather than using stills. It's sorta big, 39MB, but that's as small as I could go without making it impossible to make out the details, and the source material is not so great to begin with. Check it out if you can! www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/66_67interviews.mpgBumping this thread up. Anyone who hasnt seen these interviews should. Its very very obvious they are different people. |
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Post by Doc on Nov 5, 2004 1:40:56 GMT -5
OK I am going insane, or something, because, although the voices of the first 1966 interview nd the LSD interview are pitched slightly differently, the actually vocal cord vibrating fundamental sounds like the same person to me. I can't explain this. Have I been wrong all along? There are some differences in how fluid the flow of speech is. The LFD flow seems somewhat halting, indecisive, not incoherent at all just cautious, unpracticed. The prior interview, a bit deeper, still sounds like the same voice box, but a deeper tone, somewhat, and smoother, more confident.  I will listen again. How can this be? Uncle Doc is tired.  ;D |
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Post by Red Lion on Nov 5, 2004 3:43:19 GMT -5
Have I been wrong all along? No. Just too much Bailey's. |
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Post by Doc on Nov 5, 2004 5:26:35 GMT -5
Why, of course.
HO! lol! tee-hee!
Doc's tremorous left hand reaches over tentatively to the phone, clumsily knocks the reciever onto the floor, picks it up haltingly, and dials the Bailey's Anonymous hot-line.......ve-ry-slo-wl-y......
An officious ,concerned female voice answers in the reciever, "BA, can I help you? This is Janice speaking? What seems to be the problem tonight....."
Everything goes, well somewhat dark as Doc crumbles down to the floor, arms a kimbo, making too too much noise in the process, holding the phone reicever with a death like grip....
"Yeshe, I's haz a promba-lembe"
Janice perkily answers, "We can help you with that!'
"Greatshce! Janishhe, I jushhtt ran out of Bailey'sh. Ca-ca-can you shend over a bottle? My addreshz ishz....."
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Post by xpt626 on Nov 5, 2004 5:38:47 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Nov 5, 2004 6:08:21 GMT -5
ah yes memories ah yes sweet memories oh the good old days (*hic*) bring 'em back and bring a bottle with ya' (*hic*) hah-ow drah ah ay-yahm hah-ow drah ah ay-yahm hah-ow drah ah ay-yahm wel ahm so drah so diddlin' drah (*hic) belch unmentionable sounds whar's the night manager of this place get 'em out here right now I have to complain to the manergement aboot the lacka alcolohol here this time of night when was last call did I miss it D*MN! wha tis this some kinda blue-laws Board? thats just for sellin' booze on Sundy today aint Sundy its Frahdy and lets drinkdltvmmftiopynyrtgma'el'st459498548679045867 iz zis some kinda prohibishun? Martinis for everybody here's my credit card its a disciver card, number 5555-7777-8888-1111-AAAA. \Expiration date is last week but be a sport and let it go even though I am $145.36 over mah spedning limit. drinkin' again lets go out for do-nuts, y'all? Im DRIVIN! Im the degridated driver. I degridated myself last night! Degisnast Deg-nah-state s destinatew deresfzdnjk OK, i do the drivin cauze I said so. I aint gotta spel it. (*urrrppppp*) OK that was a burp cause I would have spelled it (thhrrrrppppp) if it had been sumpthin else worse and wait a minute "The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind. The answer is blowin' in the wind." hope it ain't a breathalizer....  |
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Post by ecenzo1 on Nov 5, 2004 11:39:43 GMT -5
I have nothing to support this with other than mentioning it as another possible explanation to the mystery. I, for one, think that the possibility of PWR in a literal sense may be true while NOT necessitating "pre '66 Paul's" death. If the accident left him debilitated to the point of minimal functions, by necessity he would need replacing with a look-a-like in order for the illusion to continue. Could it be that the use of and reference to "death" in the many clues were an analogy for the fact that Pre-Paul was "dead" to anything relating to the Beatles and possibility to other life-functions as well? Assuming he was conscience and could communicate, who better to prep Post '66 Paul than Pre '66 Paul.
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Post by eyesbleed on Nov 5, 2004 19:26:12 GMT -5
I have nothing to support this with other than mentioning it as another possible explanation to the mystery. I, for one, think that the possibility of PWR in a literal sense may be true while NOT necessitating "pre '66 Paul's" death. If the accident left him debilitated to the point of minimal functions, by necessity he would need replacing with a look-a-like in order for the illusion to continue. Could it be that the use of and reference to "death" in the many clues were an analogy for the fact that Pre-Paul was "dead" to anything relating to the Beatles and possibility to other life-functions as well? Assuming he was conscience and could communicate, who better to prep Post '66 Paul than Pre '66 Paul. Ya, that's always a possibility. I feel absolutely certain that JPM was replaced, but just have a feeling that tells me it's because he actually died. Could we be wrong about PID yet correct about PWR? I don't think so, but it's possible. |
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Post by xpt626 on Nov 5, 2004 23:27:57 GMT -5
Bumping this thread up. Anyone who hasnt seen these interviews should. Its very very obvious they are different people. I hadn't seen them until this morning... eerie. |
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