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Post by That Latvian Guy on Oct 26, 2006 11:05:34 GMT -5
Paul (1966, ?) vs Faul (1967, Sgt. Pepper)  Just look at it! I see two DIFFERENT people. |
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Post by beatlies on Oct 26, 2006 15:17:13 GMT -5
Paul (1966, ?) vs Faul (1967, Sgt. Pepper) Just look at it! I see two DIFFERENT people. Some points to remember: the guy on the left may not be JPM, but one of the pre-Sep. 1966 JPM doubles; even so, it is not the same person as the post-Sep. 1966 Faul ! Also, the photo on the right, from 1967 Sgt. Pepper, has been shown to be a doctored photo composite of JPM's face and Faul's face. |
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 26, 2006 17:08:21 GMT -5
That JPM pic is about as JPM-like as you can get.
Now the 3rd pic of Lilli's that was botherin' her in another thread, ya could be right about that one, but not this one.
This one has always been the ultimate JPM pic as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by beatlies on Oct 26, 2006 17:25:48 GMT -5
You may be right, eyesbleed. I was thinking of lili's third picture.
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Post by DarkHorse on Oct 26, 2006 18:46:01 GMT -5
Paul (1966, ?) vs Faul (1967, Sgt. Pepper) Just look at it! I see two DIFFERENT people. Some points to remember: the guy on the left may not be JPM, but one of the pre-Sep. 1966 JPM doubles; even so, it is not the same person as the post-Sep. 1966 Faul ! It's JPM. You can see he is balding in the front, hence the long bangs. Great comparison, though, on the differences between Paul and Bill. |
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Post by revolver on Oct 26, 2006 20:26:27 GMT -5
Some points to remember: the guy on the left may not be JPM, but one of the pre-Sep. 1966 JPM doubles; even so, it is not the same person as the post-Sep. 1966 Faul ! It's JPM. You can see he is balding in the front, hence the long bangs. Great comparison, though, on the differences between Paul and Bill. It's amazing how many people (myself included) were thrown off by a mustache and a colorful uniform. |
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Post by lili on Oct 27, 2006 13:11:35 GMT -5
I've been driving myself bonkers all morning looking for that "stupid" Paul gif that someone was commenting on. I'm still looking for it. In the process, I came across this comparison: Paul & the boys, circa 1964/65:  Bill & the boys, 1969:  |
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Post by DarkHorse on Oct 27, 2006 18:19:02 GMT -5
It's JPM. You can see he is balding in the front, hence the long bangs. Great comparison, though, on the differences between Paul and Bill. It's amazing how many people (myself included) were thrown off by a mustache and a colorful uniform. Yes and if you put the identical mustache of Bill's on Paul along with the hairstyle he still wouldn't look like the same person eventhough he should. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 27, 2006 20:19:29 GMT -5
Paul (1966, ?) vs Faul (1967, Sgt. Pepper) Just look at it! I see two DIFFERENT people. That image on the left is definitely JPM. Although the image on the right doesn't look like Bill, doesn't look like JPM either. Either this is "Composite Man" which isn't a real person, but a composite of both JPM and Bill.....OR it's a different Faul...which I don't know...is this the "Strawberry Fields" Faul? I still say Sgt. Pepper picked a peck of Fauls.... |
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Post by Doc on Oct 28, 2006 1:16:36 GMT -5
Paul (1966, ?) vs Faul (1967, Sgt. Pepper) Just look at it! I see two DIFFERENT people. That image on the left is definitely JPM. Although the image on the right doesn't look like Bill, doesn't look like JPM either. Either this is "Composite Man" which isn't a real person, but a composite of both JPM and Bill.....OR it's a different Faul...which I don't know...is this the "Strawberry Fields" Faul? I still say Sgt. Pepper picked a peck of Fauls.... I think that the problems with the picture on the right began with some early debates in the make-up department (whether to use paintbrush or roller), became compounded by the lighting and camera set-up, were further increased in the "darkroom", reached tragic proportions while in the hands of the retouching department, and finally zeroed in on and hit the bulls-eye on bad when at last rendered in the famous gate-fold. OK ONCE again: tips.romanzolin.com/articles/article018.shtmland lighting patterns: tips.romanzolin.com/articles/article011.shtml#BroadLightingIt's like they lit that picture floor to ceiling with 9 dozen naked unfocussed and un-gelled work-lights filled by 300 watt incandescent bulbs-----a blaze of dazzling wash outs, then painted in shadows later trying to make faces out of it. That picture is so worked on, that any cell from the TV cartoon "The Jetsons" would appear more lifelike. Can I tell you what I really think? Nah, I better hold back a little bit. OK. It doesn't look like Paul, Faul, Bill, William, the anti-Faul, or even some surreal Aspinall/Don Knotts/Phil Ackrill blend. (That sounds like frozen vegetables.) Talk about having a V-8. That's a P-8. Never mind. Am I hungry? It looks like someone we see once and then never see again.Even the supposed "Faul" in his original, pristine, un-surgeried state was far handsomer than that. That whole picture is veal cutlet to the Beatle's usual standard of Beouf-Wellington. Ooh. I don't even understand that last analogy. I must be hungry at this hour. Hello Taco Bell. |
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Post by plastic paul on Oct 28, 2006 1:46:28 GMT -5
Can I tell you what I really think? Do it!!!! |
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Post by Doc on Oct 28, 2006 2:15:50 GMT -5
Can I tell you what I really think? Do it!!!! OK. But you asked. (Of course, utilizing the full range of my trademark "passive-aggresive psych 101 jingoistic style" didn't hurt....) OK. The long and the short of it is: and remember, this is just an opinion, I've had to reverse myself before----- There were NINE Beatles. (audible gasps, followed by the sound of nervous shifting in seats, throat clearing, some "oh, my's", and a handful of footsteps hastily exiting, followed by agitated murmuring, and then some hyena like laughter breaks out from the back row....) "Ha! You are quite mad, Doctor," said in a forced and phony high-German accent. "Never denied it. Now that we've got THAT out of the way, I'll resume." AFTER a word from our sponsor. And a short vacation. And the end of all war anywhere in the known world. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 29, 2006 20:34:04 GMT -5
There were NINE Beatles. (audible gasps, followed by the sound of nervous shifting in seats, throat clearing, some "oh, my's", and a handful of footsteps hastily exiting, followed by agitated murmuring, and then some hyena like laughter breaks out from the back row....) "Ha! You are quite mad, Doctor," said in a forced and phony high-German accent. "Never denied it. Now that we've got THAT out of the way, I'll resume." AFTER a word from our sponsor. And a short vacation. And the end of all war anywhere in the known world. The nine Beatles are as follows: JPM John Lennon George Harrison Ringo Starr William Shepherd Charlie Brill Eric Clapton(Who replaced George, thus leaving a vacancy for a Feric to take over Eric's identity) Yassar Arafat (who replaced Ringo Starr, thus leaving a vacancy for a Fassar Farafat to become the leader of the Palestinians) That only makes 8... oh yes "Strawberry Fields Faul" or "Mountain Man" who is the alternate Faul to our "Bill" That makes nine....I think..... And this is certified by an authentic group of Beatle fans who have studied the 60 IF document and have compared material for consideration. Experienced in active Beatles listening and looking at pictures/videos. The results were hermetically sealed and saved for posterity. |
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Post by noodles on Oct 30, 2006 11:16:03 GMT -5
Paul (1966, ?) vs Faul (1967, Sgt. Pepper) is this the "Strawberry Fields" Faul? Yes   |
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Post by lili on Nov 18, 2006 11:33:04 GMT -5
Our new member ggee posted this photo on the guest board:  I find it to be a very interesting comparison. You can see the resemblence between the two men. However, there are differences between the two. For one, Bill ( on the right ) has a larger forehead than Paul did. Noone's forehead becomes larger as they grow older !  Their ear, nose, mouth & chin look different also. |
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Post by il ras on Nov 18, 2006 13:31:45 GMT -5
a lot of pics old pics are retouched.  These images are not exactly from the same photo (two different shots taken one after the other in few seconds). But I don't think it's possible that Paul could become thinner, as it seems, in such short time... |
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Post by Doc on Nov 18, 2006 23:15:18 GMT -5
a lot of pics old pics are retouched. These images are not exactly from the same photo (two different shots taken one after the other in few seconds). But I don't think it's possible that Paul could become thinner, as it seems, in such short time... Could this be from an optical illusion? The deeper black of the jacket etc. in one frame; the lighter charcoal of the grayscale in the other makes it seem that way. Might be a change of lens but not necessarily. Or else it was one gigantic megaburp that made the difference. The poor photographer....... |
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Post by il ras on Nov 19, 2006 7:26:34 GMT -5
Doc, maybe.
I 'M not a lot into photography....
Do you mean that, if we change the grayscale of the picture on the right, we'll obtain the same result of the picture on the left?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Nov 19, 2006 20:50:00 GMT -5
Our new member ggee posted this photo on the guest board: I find it to be a very interesting comparison. You can see the resemblence between the two men. However, there are differences between the two. For one, Bill ( on the right ) has a larger forehead than Paul did. Noone's forehead becomes larger as they grow older ! Their ear, nose, mouth & chin look different also. From the newly found 64 IF document found in a vessel in a cave near the Dead Sea.... The Truth.... JPM and William were twins born to Tallulah and Herman Edelblute and they gave their sons up for adoption.... JPM was adopted by James and Mary Mc Cartney whilst William was adopted by Bernie and Delores Campbell. JPM grew up in Liverpool and became one of the Beatles.... William was a Canadian police officer who entered the Paul Mc Cartney look a like contest and won the role of the man we know as Sir Paul... Talk about twin freaks...William replaced his twin brother.... This message brought to you by the Wisconsin Cheese Council. Buy cheese, eat cheese, but whatever you do, please don't cut the cheese.  |
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