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Post by JoJo on Feb 11, 2005 18:21:42 GMT -5
You may have heard their version playing on the radio lately, there's a streaming video here: www.q1043.com/info/styx.html Wish I could get a non streaming copy, there may be a few interesting bits in it. A couple of note, A "walrus crossing" sign, like you would see on the road, e.g. "deer crossing". Also a cemetery in a couple of shots..
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Post by TotalInformation on Feb 11, 2005 20:03:36 GMT -5
I tried some tricks to d/l the files but couldn't get it to work. The cemetery/death symbolism is pretty obvious, eh wot?
Do make sure to check out the "unplugged" version they played specifically for that radio station. I'd like to know what folks here hear for the background chatter starting around the 4-minute mark.
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Post by revolver on Feb 12, 2005 21:40:49 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Feb 13, 2005 0:53:41 GMT -5
Thanks Revolver.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 16, 2005 19:35:40 GMT -5
Some stills from the video: Sitting on a cornflake; Waiting for the (Volkswagon) van to come: Stupid bloody Tuesday, note the blood emerging from the left side of his face and splattering outwards: You've been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long: Like Lucy in the sky... I'm cryin'... A dead dog's eye(s): You've been a naughty girl, you let your Knickers down: (it morphs from the guy's face into him in drag) A couple of graveyard shots: I am the walrus..
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Post by Doc on Feb 17, 2005 4:13:13 GMT -5
OMG. They know. Well, no one KNOWS, but I mean, they sort of, "get it", don't you think?
So, hemorrhagic stroke of the left temporal artery, from a catastrophic trauma.
Paul is bloody........
End of the movie Help! Scene on the beach. Ringo in bloody white suit......walking near James Paul.......
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Post by DarkHorse on Feb 17, 2005 11:46:15 GMT -5
OMG. They know. Well, no one KNOWS, but I mean, they sort of, "get it", don't you think? Yes they do I bet. And I think many more know also.
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Post by revolver on Feb 17, 2005 17:06:41 GMT -5
Yes they do I bet. And I think many more know also. I think the story of Paul's replacement will finally be leaked to the mass media by the insiders in the music biz who know, but not until Sir Paul is dead, removing the possibility of any law suits. JMO
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Post by Doc on Feb 18, 2005 2:24:09 GMT -5
Well, timing would be a critical concern with something of this nature. This "item" has NO precedent. Well, no, I can think of one. In 1989, a "male" jazz pianist named Billy Tipton from the US midwest died. The funeral home discovered something terribly unexpected when the body came for preparation. "He" was a woman. Suits Me: The Double Life of Billy Tipton by Diane Wood Middlebrook - June 1998-- Billy Tipton was a jazz performer who played in clubs throughout the Midwest for nearly 50 years. Tipton never made the big time as a musician and ended up working as a booking agent in Spokane, Washington. Only with Tipton's death in 1989 was it revealed that the five-times-married father to three boys was biologically female. Diane Wood Middlebrook's biography describes the transformation of Dorothy Tipton, a white Oklahoman who was not allowed to play jazz because she was a girl, into Billy Tipton, a male pianist and bandleader. The author traces the life of this itinerant jazz musician over several decades and through changing constructions of gender Order/Review Paperback ---Order/Review Hardbackat: www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/1266/read.htmlHe had pulled it off for decades! I mean, SHE had pulled it off for decades. She felt that to make it as a jazz entertainer, in the 60's and 70's, behind a piano, she had to be a he. So, unless Sir Paul is an alien (nix), or a woman(nein), or a sheepdog from the waist down (Oh, goodness, Martha!), I don't think the morticians are going to have too many shocks. Maybe Ru Paul could crash the funeral and sing "Supermodel". No, THAT would shock everybody.
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Post by eyesbleed on Feb 18, 2005 8:20:31 GMT -5
I'll bet that a lot more people in the entertainment industry know about this than you might think. It would probably be against some sort of entertainers code-of-conduct to leak this info while he's still alive & doin' his thang & all these folks are fooled into thinking he is the one & only JPM. But after he's dead, that would be different.
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Post by DarkHorse on Feb 18, 2005 18:44:51 GMT -5
I think the story of Paul's replacement will finally be leaked to the mass media by the insiders in the music biz who know, but not until Sir Paul is dead, removing the possibility of any law suits. JMO I really hope that's true. Let's all hope Ringo outlasts Bill. I think we all agree he is younger than Sir Faul.
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Post by DarkHorse on Feb 18, 2005 18:52:10 GMT -5
Regarding the walrus crossing clue, I am thinking that JP may have got into his car wreck avoiding hitting a pedestrian. The reason I say this is remember the post about the image going across John's face? invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=Clues&action=display&thread=1092463892It looks like a man carrying a bag of groceries or a box and then what looks like car headlights flash across the screen although the body seems to stay walking for a moment, it looks like it might be implied that the car didn't hit the person. Maybe that's what happened. He was avoiding hitting someone and wrecked into something like a telephone pole or ran off the road and hit a tree. But then again that doesn't explain why it was possible it took them 2 days to find his body.
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Post by revolver on Feb 18, 2005 20:00:49 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does he look a bit like Billy in that frame?
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Post by DarkHorse on Feb 18, 2005 20:43:35 GMT -5
Yes it does. Which band member of Styx is that?
The red haired girl in the cartoon must be intended to be Jane.
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Post by revolver on Feb 18, 2005 23:08:30 GMT -5
That's the lead singer Lawrence Gowan. He replaced the original lead singer Dennis DeYoung. At least they were up front about it.
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Post by Doc on Feb 19, 2005 3:29:40 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does he look a bit like Billy in that frame? I saw it the other night, yes, more like he's "doing" a Macca moment,in a delivery kind of thing.
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Post by Doc on Feb 19, 2005 4:09:46 GMT -5
I'll bet that a lot more people in the entertainment industry know about this than you might think. It would probably be against some sort of entertainers code-of-conduct to leak this info while he's still alive & doin' his thang & all these folks are fooled into thinking he is the one & only JPM. But after he's dead, that would be different. I think all that is probably true. Well, it wouldn't be decent to behave otherwise. I dunno. I think: Maybe we ought to drop the whole thing, and go our seperate ways, why ruminate any longer? But nobody much takes anything we say seriously anyway, so it doesn't make any difference. Why worry about it. We are the joke, perhaps? In fact, I 'spose we would tend to be seen as the "nutty people" with all our "crazy, demented, and paranoid" sounding talk. Which continues to make the very idea of PWR ridiculous. Well, I don't say that to cut us down at all. [Its just because of the way the world is orientated, and the prevailing mind set.] So, no, his situation is covered all the way. And, face it, he's a vegan, and watches his weight and health, he'll probably live to be 103 like Cher. So, when I retire to Sunny Acres Rest Home in 2035, I'll probably read at last in the AARP discount magazine that Sir Paul has passed away. For the second time. Then all the old old biddy rock and rollers can mouth off, jaw-down, and gossip about all the secret sh*t they new, baby, back in the day. Can you imagine? Bowie and Jaggar on walkers, bald and toothless, telling the other retired rock stars, baby, we was in on it! Back in the day, back in the day. And I BET Keith Richard will STILL be breathing. On his own. How will he look? The old scientist on "Futurama" comes to mind. Hmmm, I'll be 82, God willing and the creek don't rise. My pruned and saggy self.....well, one can play piano into one's twilight years...... By that time, the Intelligencia can relax about the whole thing and worry about Michael Jackson's grandchildren......... Then, they can re-do the Anthology. AGAIN. The "Rumors" version......I hope they've kept all the scraps and bits of film. Then at last there can be a Broadway Rock Musical based on the Beatles----that steps over the line of conjecture into a controversial, shocking narrative that must remain dormant and unusable for the time being. It can even end with a disclaimer----it was all John's dream, or such. On the stage, there is a way to handle nearly every contingency. Or, somebody Broadway could do it now, and have Sir Paul attend the opening, and he could comment afterward what a fantastic fiction it all was. Nobody will get it, and view it as extraordinary fiction. (DoctorRobert comes out of his daydreaming state, coughs, looks around, and types quickly): Am I out of my mind? I am nuts. That simply will never happen. Sorry, folks, ignore the last three or four paragraphs. I was in a melatonin induced coma. I was away on a journey. Whoa. Time to go to bed. Zzzzzzzzzzz.....
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Post by JoJo on Feb 19, 2005 12:21:59 GMT -5
Another weird thing, note a tiny black figure in the upper right hand corner with arms outstretched as well. Hard to tell, but the stuff in the upper right looks like it may have some skulls subliminally embedded. Is this New Orleans?
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Post by JoJo on Feb 19, 2005 12:43:56 GMT -5
Flip it upside down, and now look in the lower left hand corner: Doesn't it maybe remind you of "fool on the hill" cartoon from MMT?
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Post by TotalInformation on Feb 19, 2005 16:43:55 GMT -5
ROLLING STONE: On a hilly Hawaiian road, the centuries-old trees tower over the tarmac, forming a green pavilion that dwarfs the Toyota Prius driven by twenty-eight-year-old Dominic Monaghan. He interrupts his anecdote about fleeing from Paul McCartney at an Oscar party... The marks on his skin tell a history. Tattooed on his right shoulder is the elvish symbol for nine, a mark famously shared by the principal actors of the Lord of the Rings movies. On his left shoulder is a quote from the Beatles' "Strawberry Fields Forever": "Living is easy with eyes closed." The Beatles are a huge influence on Monaghan: When he fled from McCartney, it was because the idea of talking to him was overwhelming... The second half of that lyric is "misunderstanding all you see," which explains how Monaghan chose the tattoo: as a caution to himself. He wants to keep his eyes open, be receptive to the world and ask himself, "What would Lennon do?"
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Post by Girl on Feb 19, 2005 21:10:25 GMT -5
No, I got the same impression when I first saw it. I'd say that was the intent. Same with the graveyard shot.
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Post by eyesbleed on Feb 19, 2005 22:14:44 GMT -5
The first person to come to mind here was Robbie Robertson.(The Band) ;D
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