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Post by Doc on Jun 26, 2006 8:21:26 GMT -5
www.nemsworld.com/beatles/click on Sgt. Pepper Promotional Party William is there, and Paul is there. What the hell is going on? How could it be? And, just where is Brian Epstein in this? It was held in his house, mind you. How could he not BE THERE? How rude to have a party in your own home and not pose for pictures like everyone else.
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 26, 2006 9:19:08 GMT -5
He was not there. (He was dead.) You're engaging in wishful thinking.
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Post by pennylane on Jun 26, 2006 9:45:33 GMT -5
He was not there. (He was dead.) You're engaging in wishful thinking. don't say it like it's fact, cause it is NOT. And Doc.. I see what you mean. confusing indeed |
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Post by lili on Jun 26, 2006 11:29:15 GMT -5
SMA & I both feel that this is the period where Bill looked the most like Paul. Right now, alot of the photos aren't opening up. Once I can get my hands on all of them, I'll be able to study them.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 26, 2006 18:40:21 GMT -5
Strange about Epstein, yes. Perhaps you could say there are two somewhat different looking Pauls in that collection of stills? How about the one with Linda? Billish? The one next to XPT's famous still? More JPMish? Doc sees clearly IMO, make no mistake. Whether or not such a bold interpretation is in order.. time will tell. (or William tell)  |
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 26, 2006 18:51:32 GMT -5
Doc, what pics are you talking about that look like Paul? They all look like Bill to me although I agree with lili that Bill looked the most like Paul during the Pepper period. This is because they did the most touch ups of the photos imo.
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Post by Doc on Jun 26, 2006 19:09:41 GMT -5
Doc, what pics are you talking about that look like Paul? They all look like Bill to me although I agree with lili that Bill looked the most like Paul during the Pepper period. This is because they did the most touch ups of the photos imo. Let's just take the first section, the Front Door section, or "fd". Faul is: fd03 fd04 fd08 Paul is: fd02 fd07 fd09 Just a sample of six to begin. |
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Post by il ras on Jun 26, 2006 21:02:13 GMT -5
They all look like Bill to me
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 26, 2006 21:27:17 GMT -5
Nope... all FAUL. Don't waste your time wishing this story was nicer. There is a lot of death and brutality here.
Hallyday said it: Pas drole, pas drole, cette histoire la.
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Post by -Wings- on Jun 27, 2006 3:17:56 GMT -5
Normally I'd agree with you Doc, but I'm not sure how the logistics would work with several guests there. Keep in mind that I do now believe Paul was alive somewhere during that time period (and hell, to this day), but I think those are all Bill. He does look a lot like Paul in some of those pictures, granted, but I still see the tell-tale sign of Bill: His lankier figure and less wide face.
Good point about Epstein. I've always found it curious he was never photographed at this party in his own home.
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Post by luvleerita on Jun 27, 2006 19:14:02 GMT -5
What I noticed in this photo session that the man who is posing as John Lennon is not really him.
Whether it was our trekkie Charlie Brill, or another stand in, that is NOT John Lennon!
And those are indeed Bill.
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Post by Doc on Jun 27, 2006 21:50:50 GMT -5
Normally I'd agree with you Doc, but I'm not sure how the logistics would work with several guests there. Keep in mind that I do now believe Paul was alive somewhere during that time period (and hell, to this day), but I think those are all Bill. He does look a lot like Paul in some of those pictures, granted, but I still see the tell-tale sign of Bill: His lankier figure and less wide face. Good point about Epstein. I've always found it curious he was never photographed at this party in his own home. Maybe the photos weren't all shot on the same day then. Costumes can go in the closet for later; a professional wig/hair stylist and make-up artists can take photographs and bloody near recreate the look to an exactness for another shoot. That's how movies are made, and that's what they really get paid for........continuity......... |
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Post by beatlies on Jun 27, 2006 21:51:04 GMT -5
What I noticed in this photo session that the man who is posing as John Lennon is not really him. Whether it was our trekkie Charlie Brill, or another stand in, that is NOT John Lennon! And those are indeed Bill. John Lennon or Not?  |
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Post by Doc on Jun 27, 2006 23:19:19 GMT -5
What I noticed in this photo session that the man who is posing as John Lennon is not really him. Whether it was our trekkie Charlie Brill, or another stand in, that is NOT John Lennon! And those are indeed Bill. Ok, John Lennon------or Not?  Welcome to "What's My Line?!" ......and will the REAL, John Lennon, please, stand up!?  Big VersionNothing.........is real.   |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 28, 2006 0:21:38 GMT -5
The first picture in the bottom set of three needs to be flipped, it's backward. The other two look correct to me.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 28, 2006 4:56:51 GMT -5
The first picture in the bottom set of three needs to be flipped, it's backward. The other two look correct to me. The first one, the unusual nose, I've seen in a few other pictures, I call him the Marty Feldman-nose-Lennon. The second one was taken during John Lennon's period of heavy LSD use and reading of Philip K. Dick books, causing him to physically cross the dimensions of time, space and material reality/immaterial fiction and become a gray Beatle-jacketed genetically-altered-Klingon secret agent in a December 1967 Star Trek featuring JFK/Giancana's CIA mistress assassination-of-Castro-courier's ex-husband, Beatle Paul imposter, secret fellow Klingon William Campbell. This process also transmogrified Lennon's elite Samurai aristocrat Japanese war criminal/banking family millionaire artist girlfriend Ono Yoko into an Irish-American feeble Elaine May-rip-off-artist CIA SAG president godmother named Mitzi. See here: invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=Clues&action=display&thread=1151225558&page=1The third one may be flipped back with the jagged, chipped one of his pair of buck teeth looking impossibly different from the Marty Feldman-Lennon jagged tooth, along with the nose and facial dimensions, but hey maybe it's just the camera angle? The color moptop one on the right, above the three-pak set, somehow reminds me of a young Telly Savalas with a Beatle toupee. |
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Post by lili on Jun 28, 2006 12:11:10 GMT -5
This is all too confusing for me.  |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 28, 2006 12:19:56 GMT -5
Beatlies, I've seen pictures of John Lennon and looked at more before posting my response. Judging from other photos, it appears to me the jagged tooth appears was on other side (John's right) and his nose was bent the other way (John's left), so that's why I said the first photo needed to be flipped. The third photo is correct. As far as the middle photo is concerned, I assumed we were looking at Charlie Brill from Star Trek again; furthermore, Beatlies you personally posted the same picture in the Star Trek thread.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 28, 2006 13:37:54 GMT -5
Beatlies, I've seen pictures of John Lennon and looked at more before posting my response. Judging from other photos, it appears to me the jagged tooth appears was on other side (John's right) and his nose was bent the other way (John's left), so that's why I said the first photo needed to be flipped. The third photo is correct. As far as the middle photo is concerned, I assumed we were looking at Charlie Brill from Star Trek again; furthermore, Beatlies you personally posted the same picture in the Star Trek thread. Yes, I too inferred from the jagged tooth placement that one or the other of those two photos in flipped. The thing that strikes me, or one of the things, is that the tooth itself looks different, which could theoretically be explained as Lennon having dental work rather than the man being a Lennon double, but taken together with nose differences, eye differences etc. I think it becomes a key part of the puzzle. Charlie Brill makes a fantastic Lennon double, and I wonder if someone cast him with William Campbell, and had him wear a tunic resembling the famous gray Beatle jacket and white shirt as a kind of inside joke or broadcast signal. The few discrepancies: ears stick out more at the top but they could be pinned back or hidden with hair; the lips, especially the upper lip is a bit too thin but this could be fixed with makeup (and I see evidence of plastic surgery around the mouth); the jaw is not as big but this matches the smaller jaw seen in some Lennon pictures and taken as evidence of that man being a double. |
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Post by JoJo on Jun 28, 2006 15:08:50 GMT -5
Congrats, you figured out a way it could actually happen! Sure ain't happening in five sense reality..
OK, that is a possibility.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 28, 2006 16:35:51 GMT -5
While I'm well aware of photo fakery, I think in this case it's the same person in both photos--John Lennon. But the differences can be explained by varience in exposure, aperture and shutter speed of the camera.
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