Facial/Cranial sciences

[Doc]

From here:

www.sitesled.com/members/racialreality/subraces.html

Lappish: A stunted, highly brachycephalized, largely brunet relative of the Ladogan, originally living to the east of the Ladogan type area, in the Urals and western Siberia. Has probably assimilated some evolved mongoloid, but owes its partly mongoloid appearance more to the retention of an early intermediate evolutionary condition. In modern times much mixed with Ladogan and Nordic.



From here:

med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnets/troe/texts/p1.htm

FIG.5. (1 view, photo Martin Luther). This 18 year old Norwegian Lapp boy pos-
sesses all of the most characteristically Lappish features of the face: a shallow mandible;
a pointed, retreating chin; a lateral malar prominence; facial prognathism; a pointed
and elevated nasal tip; and a low nasal bridge.



So, that mysterious fellow behind George really doesn't answer to Irish, Scot, or even English typing:

He seems more like this type:

med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnets/troe/texts/p22.htm

Bill is truly the one with the Scot-Irish-Celtic head specifications. (I feel like I am talking about car models.....)

All types to be found on the following wab page. Men shown only. Hmmm. They should have a women's page.

med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnets/troe/texts/index.htm


David sang it like this:

Ziggy really sang, screwed up eyes and screwed down hairdo
Like some cat from Japan, he could lick 'em by smiling
He could leave 'em to hang
Came on so loaded man, well hung and snow white tan

That IS what I remember; a faintly asiatic facial quality; a ruthless impetuosity on stage; a slight build and medium height, and a low cranial vault. I don't remember so much about the nose; my guess is a concave, wide tipped, puggish.

But "lapp?" I dunno. Mongoloid? Alpine? People have moved around over the centuries.

But that probably, once again, ISN'T Paul.

Now I am off to look up "false memory syndrome."

[LOVELYRITA]

Doc, what about the guy's ear? Does it line up with Bill's prefab earprosthetic?

So this man is Lapp? Never heard of this before...thanks for showing us this.

Always interested in new ideas.

[Doc]

Even Romulus and Remus:

www.ostia-antica.org/dict/topics/mint/mint07.htm

Profiles on the coins from millenia ago.

The ancients knew something about lineage and head proportion.....

[Doc]

Neanderthals.

The cranial vault of a Neanderthal was very flat while modern day humans have more rounded ones. The forehead of a Neanderthal was sloping compared to the human’s vertical one. The brow ridge was very prominent in the Neanderthal compared to the modern human. The occipital bun of the Neanderthal possessed a bulge at the back of the skull, in the occipital region as for the human, it is absent. Lastly, the Neanderthal chin was small and receding while ours are more prominent.

Scroll down at:

cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Human%20Nature%20S%201999/chris_bosley.htm

And this about Paleolithic man:

Historically, we have seen that Ireland was settled at successive periods by Palaeolithic survivors from northern Europe by way of Scotland, by Megalithic Atlanto-Mediterraneans, by Dinaric peoples from the eastern Mediterranean who came by way of Spain, by Keltic Iron Age Nordics, and by various groups of Scandinavians, of Normans, and of English. Of these various peoples the one which gave the island its language and the characteristic flavor of its historic culture was the Keltic. Christian Iron Age skeletal remains, from various parts of Ireland, belong predominantly to the Keltic Iron Age type, and are very similar to the skeletal series from sixteenth century London reviewed in the last section.14


This is all so confusing. But there is something to it.

I am not saying that the mystery man is a Lapp, or anything else. He is probably just one more of the very diverse types of Caucasians. He may be American; we don't know who he is; he may have been somebody hired out of New York, or a relative of people who knew the Beatles. Perhaps more will unfold.

[beatlies]

Be careful DoctorRobert, this is far from an exact science, and heavily tainted by racism, pseudoscience, far-right mysticsm, anti-Semitism, eugenics, crypto-Nazism and white suprematism (a description that I think may apply to your source website upon close examination and wading through "Racial Reality," although it makes efforts to obscure it.)

For instance it refers to white suprematism as "White Nationalism" says it is against 'Afrocentrism."

[Doc]

beatlies said:

Be careful DoctorRobert, this is far from an exact science, and heavily tainted by racism, pseudoscience, far-right mysticsm, anti-Semitism, eugenics, crypto-Nazism and white suprematism (a description that I think may apply to your source website upon close examination and wading through "Racial Reality," although it makes efforts to obscure it.)

For instance it refers to white suprematism as "White Nationalism" says it is against 'Afrocentrism."

Oh, ooh, icky poo. Thanks for the caveat. I hate that stuff; that taint of hooray for the white people aren't we the only ones--crap.

Where did that crap start?

So, well, never mind all those posts. I came in through the back door looking up as applies to faces and so forth, and came across that--I didnpot get that far , to the other pages etc. I don't really even want to read further, to tell you the truth.

So, perhaps their data and clasifications are racially biased and at the root of it, prejudiced. Sorry to have inadvertently taken us there; let me now lead us away......

[LOVELYRITA]

Well, there may be some interesting things one can find looking into the head shapes, face shapes, for the sake of research and conversation. As long as we are discussing it for determining the possibility of someone's origin and not using it in discriminating ways or to promote some negative actions and beliefs.

I don't think this was meant to go in that negative vein, I didn't take it that way.

I was wondering if it possibly was this Billy Shepherd who had spent time with the Beatles and who wrote the books. Don't know, could this be Bill before all of the plastic surgery? This goes against the guy at the back of the MMT bus, or Neil, or maybe it's another man who may have been used as a Paul decoy....

[beatlies]

Hey I was in the middle of writing my post above when THE FIRE ALARM WENT OFF so I had to stop in the middle of what I wanted to say.

Ahem, if I may ramble on ... I've noticed a disturbing trend in the last year that the "mainstream media" is adopting the language of the Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan groups in actually using the phrase "White Nationalism" (capital "W" as in you know "w"ho ...); I saw this in a report on the Nazi twin girls American singing group "Prussian Blue" on ABC narrated by Diane Sawyer, and an article last week in an NYC paper on anti-racist poetry by a Black girl teenager.

I've been entertaining some "far out" speculations on JPM's ethnicity, having to do with the fact that he looked so different from his brother, and if there is a cover-up about his birth parents. He looked like he could be from a wide variety of European ethnic groups, or a mixture of groups, but still he definitely looks to me like he could be what we are told he is: a mixture of British (Anglo) and Irish.

DoctorRobert, here is some recommended reading (interesting and well-written) on the science of anthropology and its misuses:

The Legacy of Malthus by Alan Chase

The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen J. Gould

From what we can see of that guy in the photo he looks like he could be practically any nationality or ethnicity of caucasian. Why is he important?

[Doc]

Well, he may not be. I was considering him for a possible Paul or Paul look-a-like----which makes NO sense because Paul is clearly already IN the picture, but only because he tapped my memory--again, maybe a false tap.........

And, yes I had today for it to dawn on me that I probably should remove those links to the questionable W S site----perhaps tomorrow. I have to retire early for an early rehearsal, but tomorrow after dinner I have time to think, find and edit.

Of course, it all this trait classifying has to do with selection/availability of a choices of mate, isolation from a broader selection, and whether or not societal demands include arranged marraiges! So, ultimately, people anywhere in the last 200 years could be
diverse; typing and geography are less and less applicable. Transportation of the time plays a role. Church/religious strictures; family preferences (especially "monied' ones", recessive genes, etc. People don't have to be bred like roses and dogs; two people should choose each other for love.

And love is the key. Love doesn't choose traits, it chooses a person. Individuals are all a package----a lot more than a collection of overt biological traits.

lol of course I must tactlessly add that some people are real 'hung' up about certain "covert" traits lol but this is not a proper forum for an examination BWA-HA of those features........but we have a link to one that is............lol.....gawsh I am incorrigerble............ just put the warning ticket in my inbox......