What does john say

[MikeNL]

You know the bit in SFF where it SEEMS all quiet, i amplified that part:

www.jojoplace.org/uploads/08StrawberryFieldsForever.mp2

mp2? what's that, didn't even knew it existed! but hey! IT WORKS!

All i get out of it is:
Going West

[Talalay]

Wow Mike! You've just made another 'Village People' connection!

[MikeNL]

Apr 21, 2008 21:13:52 GMT -5 Talalay said:

Wow Mike! You've just made another 'Village People' connection!

lol?

[MikeNL]

i got this message back from to761983 (youtube):

Hello,
I haven't posted on NIR but I do read (lurk) there often.

If I recall correctly, going West is a Masonic expression about death ie. if someone has died they are said to have gone West.

I learned this from a Michael Hoffman excerpt on the assassination of JFK, entitled King Kill, some time ago. For confirmation I tried to find a printed copy I thought I had but I couldn't find it.

Hope that helps. If I have recalled correctly then it seems you've found another PID clue.

Oh and thanks for the Rotten Apple album. I downloaded it too.

i think that is pretty interesting! So john is saying to go west in the most hidden part in sff

[Talalay]

And the Village People did a song called 'Go West' - seemed a funny co-incidence what with the video put on You Tube the other day.

[MikeNL]

Apr 22, 2008 8:15:48 GMT -5 Talalay said:

And the Village People did a song called 'Go West' - seemed a funny co-incidence what with the video put on You Tube the other day.

rather synchronicity.....

[iameye]

try this. Hi ramone!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e08_ZYq3DU

[horseloverphat]

Hello,
I haven't posted on NIR but I do read (lurk) there often.

If I recall correctly, going West is a Masonic expression about death ie. if someone has died they are said to have gone West.

I learned this from a Michael Hoffman excerpt on the assassination of JFK, entitled King Kill, some time ago. For confirmation I tried to find a printed copy I thought I had but I couldn't find it.

Hope that helps. If I have recalled correctly then it seems you've found another PID clue.

Oh and thanks for the Rotten Apple album. I downloaded it too.

The 'west' is the land of the dead in the 'ancient mysteries' because the Sun rises (born) in the east and sets (dies) in the west....so that part of the world was seen this way by some systems and is the main reason for being so.

Entered Apprentices are informed 1st degree...

Our Lodges are situated due East and West, because all places of Divine worship, as well as all well-formed and regularly-constituted Lodges, are, or ought to be, so situated; for which we assign three Masonic reasons:—1. The sun, the glory of the LORD, rises in the East and sets in the West; 2. Learning originated in the East, and from thence extended its benign influence to the West; 3. The last and grand reason, refers to the situation of the Tabernacle in the wilderness. The nature of the Lodge—its form, dimensions, and supports—its ground, situation, and covering—its ornaments, furniture, and jewels—all unite their aid to form a perfect code of moral and theological philosophy; which, while it fascinates the understanding, improves the mind, until it becomes polished like the Perfect Ashlar, and can only be tried by the Square of GOD'S word and the unerring Compass of conscience.

The document that the above poster refers to is 'King Kill 33' by James Shelby Downard with Michael A Hoffman.(a paragraph of it is in my signature) The document refers to an adage of alchemy about 'the killing of the king rite' an ancient occult practice.... James Frazer's 'The Golden Bough', outlines this very rite and some of its ancient history. Sir James Frazer writing in The Golden Bough: A Study in Magic and Religion, explains that when the "divine king" is murdered by one who is himself stronger or craftier, those powers of "divinity" which were the king's are "Sympathetically" and "Contagiously" transferred from the vanquished to the victor.



Downard


Hoffman believes that 3 alchemical feats are needed for the 'cryptocracy' to achieve their goals.


1.The Creation & Destruction of Primordial Matter..... Hoffman cites the 'atomic bomb' in satisfying this requirement .

2.The Killing of the King.....Hoffman cites JFK assassination.

3.The Bringing of Prima Materia to Prima Terra.....the Apollo mission 1969 bringing back moon rock.

These are Hoffman's belief re: the goals of alchemy...and the rebiulding of the 3rd temple to follow blah, blah, blah.



The 1st & 3rd events both took place on July 16th...bomb & apollo launch. (July 16th is very much a 'buzz' date it seems)


Entertainer 'Marilyn Manson' has referenced Downard's piece 'King Kill 33' in his LP HolyWood (a term once used by Crowley.) whereby he also references the ideal Kabbalistic sex magick entity known as Adam Kadmon.




www.nachtkabarett.com/KennedyKingKill33

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Wood_(In_the_Shadow_of_the_Valley_of_Death)


Adam Kadmon

Kabbalistic concept of the archetypal man, the primordial being who is simultaneously the Judaic male and the 'body of God'. Adam Kadmon is the androgynous and balanced, completed male Jew who manifests his own deity in this world through emanations of sefirot, which include evil in the left-hand pillar of severity or judgment-one half of which must be balanced with the opposite right-side pillar of mercy....see Tree of Life,Zohar.

taken from Heimbichner's Blood On The Altar


An excerpt of this 'King Kill 33' document can be found here...

www.revisionisthistory.org/kingkill33.html

Hoffman's book Secret Societies & Psychological Warfare also mentions this document... amongst other things.


Also another 'OZ' connection (iameye has been raising this 'OZ' angle recently in relation to the Beatles) can be found within this document.

Oswald means "divine strength." The diminutive form of the word is "os" or "Oz": denoting strength. The role which "Divine Strength" played in the Dealey "Goddess Rule" Killing of the King ritual should be given careful consideration.

One should also note the significance of (Jack) Ruby's killing (destroying) of "Ozwald" in reference to the "Ruby Slippers" of The Wizard of Oz which one may deride as a fairy tale but which nevertheless symbolizes the immense power of "ruby light," otherwise known as the laser.

Oswald may have undergone biotelemetry implantation in the Soviet Union while a "volunteer" at a Behavior Control Center at Minsk. Oswald roomed with Cubans and was allegedly friendly with a Castro-man identified only as being "burly" and a "key man." "Burly" can mean burlecue, burlicue or burlesque. The "key," of course, is one of the most important symbols in Masonry and the symbol of silence.

OZ references....


THE WIZARD OF AIWAZ/OZ



Oz entity.....Crowley's Lam(circa 1918).....balok Star Trek




I AM......lam....LAM




Aleister's charming system...



generic lodge picture.


OZ HOUSE

OZ House isn't official but it deserves a mention. It was served as the location of Thelema Lodge for many years and now holds unofficial OTO events. I attended my first Gnostic Mass there and I have many fond memories of my visits there.

homepage.mac.com/kia/magick/homecontents.html

OZ later appeared in connection with the OTO in California, following a Berkeley Police raid on Thelema Lodge, the purported Grand Lodge of the OTO from 1977-1986. After Thelema Lodge was 'profaned' by the police raid, the Lodge was transformed by the OTO into OZ house.

from Heimbichner's Blood On The Altar






notice how the light beam (far right) forms the image of the yellow brick road.





everyones favourite theatrical satanist.




more references







Oz & Moses....and very Adam Kadmon.





Lee Harvey OZ-wald.




Ruby slippers....Jack Ruby. (a fake ruby gem)


Sorry Mike....nothing about what John says, but I thought I'd put this up anyway....hope you don't mind?

I got a bit carried away.

[mommybird]

I visited Las Vegas about 12 years ago. When we went to the MGM Grand, they had a Wizard of Oz display. The tableau was Dorothy, the Tin Man, the Scarecrow ( Straw Man ), the Cowardly Lion & Toto.
The strange thing was. Dorothy was shoeless. Someone had stolen her Ruby Slippers, right in the lobby of a famous hotel like that.
There are cameras EVERYWHERE. When I saw the display, the slippers were still gone.

[Girl]

Wow, MB... I totally "coveted" those as a young child... ;D

If I didn't know better today, I might be jealous... lmao.

[B]

It was the Wicked Witch of the West, back from the dead! Remember? "I'll get those slippers, eventually...!"

[ramone]

Apr 22, 2008 9:45:28 GMT -5 iameye said:

try this. Hi ramone!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e08_ZYq3DU

Thanks, that was great!

[Doc]

Apr 22, 2008 13:43:35 GMT -5 @mommybird said:

I visited Las Vegas about 12 years ago. When we went to the MGM Grand, they had a Wizard of Oz display. The tableau was Dorothy, the Tin Man, the Scarecrow ( Straw Man ), the Cowardly Lion & Toto.
The strange thing was. Dorothy was shoeless. Someone had stolen her Ruby Slippers, right in the lobby of a famous hotel like that.
There are cameras EVERYWHERE. When I saw the display, the slippers were still gone.

Oceans 14.

I just see George Clooney slipping right past the security guards in some red heels..........

[Doc]

Apr 22, 2008 13:16:19 GMT -5 horseloverphat said:

Also another 'OZ' connection (iameye has been raising this 'OZ' angle recently in relation to the Beatles) can be found within this document.








OZ references....


THE WIZARD OF AIWAZ/OZ



Oz entity.....Crowley's Lam(circa 1918).....balok Star Trek


I AM......lam....LAM




Aleister's charming system...



generic lodge picture.


OZ HOUSE

homepage.mac.com/kia/magick/homecontents.html

OZ later appeared in connection with the OTO in California, following a Berkeley Police raid on Thelema Lodge, the purported Grand Lodge of the OTO from 1977-1986. After Thelema Lodge was 'profaned' by the police raid, the Lodge was transformed by the OTO into OZ house.

from Heimbichner's Blood On The Altar






notice how the light beam (far right) forms the image of the yellow brick road.





everyones favourite theatrical satanist.




more references







Oz & Moses....and very Adam Kadmon.





Lee Harvey OZ-wald.




Ruby slippers....Jack Ruby. (a fake ruby gem)


Sorry Mike....nothing about what John says, but I thought I'd put this up anyway....hope you don't mind?

I got a bit carried away.

Carried away? So did Dorothy. And we loved her for it.

Anyway, about "OZ"---

ks-mason.org/wsb.htm


Strength.

[Girl]

The Wizard of Aiwaz = "I Was" ... ??

[horseloverphat]

Girl...thanks for the reminder.

I couldn't find that pic yesterday, for looking.

I've included it now though.




ks-mason.org/wsb.htm


Thanks for the link Doc....great find.

Liber Oz...is not much more than the 'strength' of fascist ideals.

[thisone]

Mustn't forget Tim Osman aka Osama Bin Forgotten, in the overall scheme of things.

And I'm reminded of possibly the worst movie I have ever seen, Zardoz, starring Sean Connery. The name being derived from an ancient book - The Wizard of Oz



The "Plot"

"The film is set in the year 2293, a post-apocalypse Earth. The Earth is now inhabited mostly by the "Brutals", ruled over by a warrior class called "Exterminators" or "the Chosen". The Exterminators worship a huge flying stone head called Zardoz as their god, who teaches them:

The gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life to poison the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth... and kill!

Zardoz supplies the Exterminators with weapons, while Exterminators also supply Zardoz with grain.

Zed (Connery), an Exterminator, enters Zardoz hidden in a load of grain and shoots (and apparently kills) its pilot, Arthur Frayn (Niall Buggy), whom the film's prologue had introduced as an immortal. Hidden in the giant head, Zed arrives in the Vortex. The Vortices are hidden bastions of civilization where the immortal "Eternals" lead a luxurious but aimless existence."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz

[horseloverphat]

that's the spirit 'thisone'....great stuff.

The Wizard of Oz




I may not know where this is going or how it fits in with things....obviously indirectly though.

But the 'OZ' meme is quite something....particularly on the sub-conscious level.


As for Osama Bin Laden....i always liked my anagram...yeah & I like the 'OZ' connection too.

I B A mason (osama bin) anag
serpent (laden/ladon)

I B A mason serpent.

Ladon was the serpent-like dragon that twined round the tree in the Garden of the Hesperides and guarded the golden apples.





LOL.

[Girl]

Yw, HLP ...

How does Zardoz fit in? Haven't seen it, but from the description, I'd say it fits in pretty well with the globalists' plan to reduce the world's population by, what is it, 80 %?

[horseloverphat]

How does Zardoz fit in? Haven't seen it, but from the description, I'd say it fits in pretty well with the globalists' plan to reduce the world's population by, what is it, 80 %?

yeah..I've just been looking at the wiki link...as I haven't seen it either.

The plot reads like some kind of 'Rosicrucian Manifesto'....about eugenics....yup, like the guidestones are.


a few initial things to note....

The Eternals are overseen and protected from death by an artificial intelligence called the Tabernacle. (tabernacle...the basis of the lodge temple)


The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life to poison the earth with a plague of men, (an amusing reversal of the lodge concept....who venerate the penis....this must be just for the 'useless eaters' and their penis.)


The Eternals spend days stewarding the vast knowledge of humanity while doing little themselves besides participating in rituals, mass meditations and navel gazing. (yup sounds just like the acitivities of the degenerate elite)

The allegorical ending shows Zed and Consuella producing a child, growing old and dying naturally, whilst the sound of the second movement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 in A major swells in the soundtrack.

Sounds a little like the ending of 2001...same kind of idea.

2001 gets a mention on the promo poster too.

[mommybird]

Has anyone here read Steven King's - The Stand ? What happens in that book is very much what the elite is working towards. Except in The Stand it was caused by human error in the lab.
How do they plan on disposing of all of the bodies ? If they kill off that much of the population, the remaining people will have a terrible time with disease due to the rotting corpses.

[MikeNL]

well what is this and everything... you are building up on connections, but all i really wanted was to know what was being said in Strawberry Fields Forever and that was exactly what DIDN'T HAPPEN

[horseloverphat]

Aye....guilty as charged ya 'onor.

Sorry Mike.

[mindgames]

They do what they have ALWAYS done, they dig a big hole a bulldoze them into a mass grave. In the movie 28 days later they collected all the bodies and then burned them in a mass grave. I am sure the elite will have thier pick of bodies for thier rituals, 1st, though.

Apr 23, 2008 12:12:20 GMT -5 @mommybird said:

Has anyone here read Steven King's - The Stand ? What happens in that book is very much what the elite is working towards. Except in The Stand it was caused by human error in the lab.
How do they plan on disposing of all of the bodies ? If they kill off that much of the population, the remaining people will have a terrible time with disease due to the rotting corpses.

[Girl]

MB, I assure you the process has already begun...

I've opened up a thread in Conspiracies to continue this.