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Post by il ras on Apr 26, 2008 13:43:07 GMT -5
The "Rotten Apple" is....
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 26, 2008 14:12:50 GMT -5
The "Rotten Apple" is.... As entertainment, it's great, especially at the price. I don't intend to miss any of the future installments. As a source of illumination for the truth about Paul McCartney and the Beatles, not so great. It continues to promise something that it never delivers and probably can never deliver. It's POSSIBLE that, like Sir Isaac Newton, Iamaphoney might have found a few pebbles or shells on the beach while the great ocean of truth about the whole thing has continued to remain and will continue to remain undiscoverable. I don't agree with those who insist that Iamaphoney WILL deliver. But I also don't see the point of getting angry at him for NOT delivering. It's entertainment, and it's all a matter of adjusting your expectations. None of the proposed poll responses really does justice to this point of view, so I haven't checked any of them off. |
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Post by skyward on Apr 26, 2008 15:36:25 GMT -5
Right now, I'd say it is a worthwhile presentation of ideas & clues that complement the other recent video series of YouKnowMyName231 and other related YouTubers.
Where does it go from here, who knows, it could go anywhere or nowhere. I'd say I'm sticking around to see what more IAAP can deliver, I'd guess that we'll see some more interesting items. That's about as far as I'll go for predictions.
I didn't add a vote to the poll.
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Post by kingofcosmania on Apr 26, 2008 17:58:53 GMT -5
It could be that iamaphoney is using the RA series to present the truth (although in a method that does not make sense to us currently), while also capitalizing on the opportunity to promote his own music in the process. If true that Neil Aspinall was Apollo, then that removes pretty much all doubt in my mind that there is not something to this 1966-current day Beatles mystery. Yet at the same time, how has the RA series been allowed to keep running as long as it has on YouTube? Why haven't the powers that be nixed it?
I don't know that answer, but I do know that the general public is not ready for a revelation of this magnitude. This is much more about perception of reality and how it is presented to us daily through mainstream media than it is about one of the most famous pop figures in history being replaced. If this is true, how much more have we been hoodwinked? How much further do lies of this magnitude extend? Are people ready to find out that much of what they have been taught to believe are lies? I don't think so. What did Heather Mills say? "People don't want to know the truth because they could never ever handle it." That's why I find it so inexplicable when I read someone write something like, "Even if he was replaced, who cares?" Who cares? You better care, that's who. Because if this is true and things like this are possible, we're all going to have to start asking much bigger, more serious, and perhaps painful questions.
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Post by Jude on Apr 26, 2008 18:01:09 GMT -5
Who voted "The Bible"?
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Post by MikeNL on Apr 26, 2008 18:02:52 GMT -5
It could be that iamaphoney is using the RA series to present the truth (although in a method that does not make sense to us currently), while also capitalizing on the opportunity to promote his own music in the process. If true that Neil Aspinall was Apollo, then that removes pretty much all doubt in my mind that there is not something to this 1966-current day Beatles mystery. Yet at the same time, how has the RA series been allowed to keep running as long as it has on YouTube? Why haven't the powers that be nixed it? I don't know that answer, but I do know that the general public is not ready for a revelation of this magnitude. This is much more about perception of reality and how it is presented to us daily through mainstream media than it is about one of the most famous pop figures in history being replaced. If this is true, how much more have we been hoodwinked? How much further do lies of this magnitude extend? Are people ready to find out that much of what they have been taught to believe are lies? I don't think so. What did Heather Mills say? "People don't want to know the truth because they could never ever handle it." That's why I find it so inexplicable when I read someone write something like, "Even if he was replaced, who cares?" Who cares? You better care, that's who. Because if this is true and things like this are possible, we're all going to have to start asking much bigger, more serious, and perhaps painful questions. well, that also didn't happen with that russian double guy who come out last week that he was stalin's double. So they basically already know it's possible |
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 26, 2008 18:05:48 GMT -5
i think you may have missed the point KofC was trying to make.
it doesn't stop at using someone as a body double
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Post by kingofcosmania on Apr 26, 2008 18:09:19 GMT -5
It could be that iamaphoney is using the RA series to present the truth (although in a method that does not make sense to us currently), while also capitalizing on the opportunity to promote his own music in the process. If true that Neil Aspinall was Apollo, then that removes pretty much all doubt in my mind that there is not something to this 1966-current day Beatles mystery. Yet at the same time, how has the RA series been allowed to keep running as long as it has on YouTube? Why haven't the powers that be nixed it? I don't know that answer, but I do know that the general public is not ready for a revelation of this magnitude. This is much more about perception of reality and how it is presented to us daily through mainstream media than it is about one of the most famous pop figures in history being replaced. If this is true, how much more have we been hoodwinked? How much further do lies of this magnitude extend? Are people ready to find out that much of what they have been taught to believe are lies? I don't think so. What did Heather Mills say? "People don't want to know the truth because they could never ever handle it." That's why I find it so inexplicable when I read someone write something like, "Even if he was replaced, who cares?" Who cares? You better care, that's who. Because if this is true and things like this are possible, we're all going to have to start asking much bigger, more serious, and perhaps painful questions. well, that also didn't happen with that russian double guy who come out last week that he was stalin's double. So they basically already know it's possible True, but I would argue that the McCartney replacement is much more extreme. That Stalin double took Stalin's place while he was still alive. Bill would have assumed McCartney's entire life completely for 40+ years while maintaining songwriting genius and remaining a major celebrity in public life and keeping a dead man alive. While true that Stalin was more important than a pop star, which replacement is more impressive and the bigger lie? Which is a larger dose of the red pill? People have emotional investment in McCartney. In Stalin, not so much. |
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Post by MikeNL on Apr 26, 2008 18:11:01 GMT -5
i think you may have missed the point KofC was trying to make. it doesn't stop at using someone as a body double well, no really it doesn't.. lots of other things of course. But i thought he was solely talking about doubles |
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 26, 2008 18:12:06 GMT -5
and that is why you (sort of) missed the point
unless its me who missed the point..?
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Post by MikeNL on Apr 26, 2008 18:19:29 GMT -5
and that is why you (sort of) missed the point unless its me who missed the point..? was there even a arrow to point with? ;D |
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 26, 2008 18:34:44 GMT -5
well, that also didn't happen with that russian double guy who come out last week that he was stalin's double. So they basically already know it's possible True, but I would argue that the McCartney replacement is much more extreme. That Stalin double took Stalin's place while he was still alive. Bill would have assumed McCartney's entire life completely for 40+ years while maintaining songwriting genius and remaining a major celebrity in public life and keeping a dead man alive. While true that Stalin was more important than a pop star, which replacement is more impressive and the bigger lie? Which is a larger dose of the red pill? People have emotional investment in McCartney. In Stalin, not so much. What I read all of the time on YouTube is, "So what if he's not the same as the original McCartney? This guy's BETTER". I'd call that BIG-TIME callousness. As though that opinion concerning musical ability rendered the fate of the first McCartney (assuming that there really has been more than one) irrelevant. But that's what so many people say. The human race is made up of callous individuals. That's probably why Alexander Hamilton correctly labeled us as "that great beast" (it's always been one of my favorite lines). Like animals, people like to have their senses gratified and they have a remarkable capacity to fool themselves in order to maintain that sense of gratification. If there IS a revelation out there that "McCartney" really is a substitute for someone who has actually been dead since 1966, there'd surely be a certain amount of initial shock but people are sufficiently callous to find a way to rationalize the lie readily enough. Because, after all, "this guy's BETTER anyway". There's also no accounting for tastes. |
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Post by kingofcosmania on Apr 26, 2008 18:38:08 GMT -5
The point I was trying to make is that if we ever find out for certain that Paul was replaced, it's going to lead to bigger questions. I think people forget that sometimes. We're all so focused on answering "did he die? was he replaced?" that we ignore what that confirmation might lead to. Think about it. If it's true, we're going to have to ask why The Beatles were so important that they absolutely had to keep going as a band at the cost of a replacement. I mean, isn't this just rock and roll we're talking about? While very financially lucrative, isn't it just entertainment, hobby/art? Or is it? Wouldn't there have to be something greater behind The Beatles than money and music for such an action to be taken? Money is a possible motive, but doubtful. That's a lot of risk and commitment for mere wealth. Who were The Beatles? Was there something bigger behind them? What was the purpose of their career? Why wouldn't they end the band or at least bring in a new member if James Paul died? Of course, if PID is false, then these questions are void. BUT if we all get what we are wanting from IAAP, we're going to have to face these questions (if IAAP doesn't answer them for us).
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Post by vince on Apr 26, 2008 19:13:36 GMT -5
You forgot to include: the coolest scary thing on the internet. I don't know how old any of you are, but it's kinda like a scary camp-fire story. I'm gonna be 41, and I can't watch any of these alone, at night. Reminded me of tried to watch "The Excorsist" as a child. I LOVE to be scared, don't get me wrong. I caught that ASIAN-HORROR train a couple of years ago, and, like those movies, I'm impressed that such a 'dated' subject like the PID story could be a source of some guys creepy ART!
So. I suggest you add ART to your choices.
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Post by openmind on Apr 26, 2008 19:20:42 GMT -5
The point I was trying to make is that if we ever find out for certain that Paul was replaced, it's going to lead to bigger questions. I think people forget that sometimes. We're all so focused on answering "did he die? was he replaced?" that we ignore what that confirmation might lead to. Think about it. If it's true, we're going to have to ask why The Beatles were so important that they absolutely had to keep going as a band at the cost of a replacement. I mean, isn't this just rock and roll we're talking about? While very financially lucrative, isn't it just entertainment, hobby/art? Or is it? Wouldn't there have to be something greater behind The Beatles than money and music for such an action to be taken? Money is a possible motive, but doubtful. That's a lot of risk and commitment for mere wealth. Who were The Beatles? Was there something bigger behind them? What was the purpose of their career? Why wouldn't they end the band or at least bring in a new member if James Paul died? Of course, if PID is false, then these questions are void. BUT if we all get what we are wanting from IAAP, we're going to have to face these questions (if IAAP doesn't answer them for us). As far as why they had to keep the band going I think there is the money factor but also society at the time. The Beatles were the biggest thing in the history of the world as far as influence over the youth as evidenced by the beatlemania that ensued as they spread worldwide. People in general went nuts with the beatles and were absolutely devoted to them- buying anything that had their name stuck on it - basically there was hordes of faithful loyal followers of the beatles. Now can you imagine that one of them dies in a tragic accident at the peak of fame-just remember the fallout from the Lennon Jesus remark. I know if im government i m going to worry of the implications of letting all these loyal youngsters know that the most important person in their life at the time has just died. If Paul McCartney was to die in a time when people in general were not so desensitized by things like this as we have all become these days. Sorry for the novel here but the point is that more than just the money that would be lost -their would have to be fears of public reactions- fear of a mass depression of sorts. Evidence to this would be the more recent death of say Kurt Cobain. Following his death there was a slew of copycat suicides that followed. Just a thought.. |
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Post by kingofcosmania on Apr 26, 2008 19:55:29 GMT -5
The point I was trying to make is that if we ever find out for certain that Paul was replaced, it's going to lead to bigger questions. I think people forget that sometimes. We're all so focused on answering "did he die? was he replaced?" that we ignore what that confirmation might lead to. Think about it. If it's true, we're going to have to ask why The Beatles were so important that they absolutely had to keep going as a band at the cost of a replacement. I mean, isn't this just rock and roll we're talking about? While very financially lucrative, isn't it just entertainment, hobby/art? Or is it? Wouldn't there have to be something greater behind The Beatles than money and music for such an action to be taken? Money is a possible motive, but doubtful. That's a lot of risk and commitment for mere wealth. Who were The Beatles? Was there something bigger behind them? What was the purpose of their career? Why wouldn't they end the band or at least bring in a new member if James Paul died? Of course, if PID is false, then these questions are void. BUT if we all get what we are wanting from IAAP, we're going to have to face these questions (if IAAP doesn't answer them for us). As far as why they had to keep the band going I think there is the money factor but also society at the time. The Beatles were the biggest thing in the history of the world as far as influence over the youth as evidenced by the beatlemania that ensued as they spread worldwide. People in general went nuts with the beatles and were absolutely devoted to them- buying anything that had their name stuck on it - basically there was hordes of faithful loyal followers of the beatles. Now can you imagine that one of them dies in a tragic accident at the peak of fame-just remember the fallout from the Lennon Jesus remark. I know if im government i m going to worry of the implications of letting all these loyal youngsters know that the most important person in their life at the time has just died. If Paul McCartney was to die in a time when people in general were not so desensitized by things like this as we have all become these days. Sorry for the novel here but the point is that more than just the money that would be lost -their would have to be fears of public reactions- fear of a mass depression of sorts. Evidence to this would be the more recent death of say Kurt Cobain. Following his death there was a slew of copycat suicides that followed. Just a thought.. I considered that, but then I remembered the conclusion I've reached about government not giving a damn about its people. But then again, one has to buy into further conspiracies (false flags, lies to the public about major historical events, using people for wars, etc.) to reach such a conclusion. You could be right (I didn't live through Beatlemania, so I'll never know what it was truly like), but in my personal belief system that's not a plausible explanation. |
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Post by kingofcosmania on Apr 26, 2008 20:01:02 GMT -5
True, but I would argue that the McCartney replacement is much more extreme. That Stalin double took Stalin's place while he was still alive. Bill would have assumed McCartney's entire life completely for 40+ years while maintaining songwriting genius and remaining a major celebrity in public life and keeping a dead man alive. While true that Stalin was more important than a pop star, which replacement is more impressive and the bigger lie? Which is a larger dose of the red pill? People have emotional investment in McCartney. In Stalin, not so much. What I read all of the time on YouTube is, "So what if he's not the same as the original McCartney? This guy's BETTER". I'd call that BIG-TIME callousness. As though that opinion concerning musical ability rendered the fate of the first McCartney (assuming that there really has been more than one) irrelevant. But that's what so many people say. The human race is made up of callous individuals. That's probably why Alexander Hamilton correctly labeled us as "that great beast" (it's always been one of my favorite lines). Like animals, people like to have their senses gratified and they have a remarkable capacity to fool themselves in order to maintain that sense of gratification. If there IS a revelation out there that "McCartney" really is a substitute for someone who has actually been dead since 1966, there'd surely be a certain amount of initial shock but people are sufficiently callous to find a way to rationalize the lie readily enough. Because, after all, "this guy's BETTER anyway". There's also no accounting for tastes. Yeah, I can just picture the talking heads on CNN or Fox News now.......I know what you mean. Everyone (including Bill) would certainly be let off the hook in the mainstream media. It would probably be spinned as "He saved The Beatles!" or some other nonsense while ignoring the ethics of the decision. A general social rule in western society: you don't criticize The Beatles. They walk on water. |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Apr 26, 2008 20:43:00 GMT -5
Somewhere along the way, it seems to me that IAAP went from primarily focusing on just getting the clues out, to proving a theory, to (at least) having an appearance of all knowledge about the truth behind PID. In the end, it all may or may not hold water.
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Post by il ras on Apr 28, 2008 5:39:50 GMT -5
13 votes...
are there just 14 (13 + 65if) members reading this section?
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 28, 2008 11:28:02 GMT -5
13 votes... are there just 14 (13 + 65if) members reading this section? Doesn't that actually equal 78if members?  |
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Post by jarvitronics on Apr 28, 2008 11:43:31 GMT -5
Viscous. Exegetical. Rhetorical. Artifice.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Apr 28, 2008 20:15:53 GMT -5
Clues with entertainment. Props to phoney for putting a script together and not leaving anything out no matter how controversial.
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Post by ZeroCorpse on Apr 28, 2008 22:08:58 GMT -5
Yeah, even if they don't turn out to be anything else, the RA videos are great entertainment.
Personally, I LOVE watching them alone at night. I don't get scared easily (I've personally seen stuff that sort of makes campfire stories tame by comparison) but IAAP is also using music to manipulate the audience, and it's an excellent job of setting the view on edge.
I admire someone who knows how to use music that way.
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Post by vince on Apr 29, 2008 10:01:47 GMT -5
But, like that wave of Japanese horror, it IS the sound of these that give it it's creep value.
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