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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Aug 26, 2008 12:27:35 GMT -5
This story is from last March, but I only just happened across it.
Anybody heard about it before?Cassini Images Bizarre Hexagon on Saturn March 27, 2007 Pasadena, Calif. -- An odd, six-sided, honeycomb-shaped feature circling the entire north pole of Saturn has captured the interest of scientists with NASA's Cassini mission. NASA's Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft imaged the feature over two decades ago. The fact that it has appeared in Cassini images indicates that it is a long-lived feature. A second hexagon, significantly darker than the brighter historical feature, is also visible in the Cassini pictures. The spacecraft's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer is the first instrument to capture the entire hexagon feature in one image. "This is a very strange feature, lying in a precise geometric fashion with six nearly equally straight sides," said Kevin Baines, atmospheric expert and member of Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We've never seen anything like this on any other planet. Indeed, Saturn's thick atmosphere where circularly-shaped waves and convective cells dominate is perhaps the last place you'd expect to see such a six-sided geometric figure, yet there it is." The hexagon is similar to Earth's polar vortex, which has winds blowing in a circular pattern around the polar region. On Saturn, the vortex has a hexagonal rather than circular shape. The hexagon is nearly 25,000 kilometers (15,000 miles) across. Nearly four Earths could fit inside it.The new images taken in thermal-infrared light show the hexagon extends much deeper down into the atmosphere than previously expected, some 100 kilometers (60 miles) below the cloud tops. A system of clouds lies within the hexagon. The clouds appear to be whipping around the hexagon like cars on a racetrack. "It's amazing to see such striking differences on opposite ends of Saturn's poles," said Bob Brown, team leader of the Cassini visual and infrared mapping spectrometer, University of Arizona, Tucson. "At the south pole we have what appears to be a hurricane with a giant eye, and at the north pole of Saturn we have this geometric feature, which is completely different." The Saturn north pole hexagon has not been visible to Cassini's visual cameras, because it's winter in that area, so the hexagon is under the cover of the long polar night, which lasts about 15 years. The infrared mapping spectrometer can image Saturn in both daytime and nighttime conditions and see deep inside. It imaged the feature with thermal wavelengths near 5 microns (seven times the wavelength visible to the human eye) during a 12-day period beginning on Oct. 30, 2006. As winter wanes over the next two years, the feature may become visible to the visual cameras. Based on the new images and more information on the depth of the feature, scientists think it is not linked to Saturn's radio emissions or to auroral activity, as once contemplated, even though Saturn's northern aurora lies nearly overhead. The hexagon appears to have remained fixed with Saturn's rotation rate and axis since first glimpsed by Voyager 26 years ago. The actual rotation rate of Saturn is still uncertain. "Once we understand its dynamical nature, this long-lived, deep-seated polar hexagon may give us a clue to the true rotation rate of the deep atmosphere and perhaps the interior," added Baines. The hexagon images and movie, including the north polar auroras are available at: www.nasa.gov/cassini and saturn.jpl.nasa.gov and wwwvims.lpl.arizona.edu . The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini-Huygens mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The Cassini orbiter was designed, developed and assembled at JPL. The Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer team is based at the University of Arizona. www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034Maybe THAT'S where the honeybees are going... UPDATE:This is a pretty interesting interpretation of the Saturn Hexagon:
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Post by iameye on Aug 26, 2008 13:51:52 GMT -5
The bees are living on Janus. ;D
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Post by ramone on Aug 26, 2008 15:58:50 GMT -5
I have heard of it before, but still don't know what to make of it.
I guess not many (if any) do.
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Post by Doc on Aug 27, 2008 2:18:44 GMT -5
This story is from last March, but I only just happened across it.
Anybody heard about it before?Cassini Images Bizarre Hexagon on Saturn March 27, 2007 Pasadena, Calif. -- An odd, six-sided, honeycomb-shaped feature circling the entire north pole of Saturn has captured the interest of scientists with NASA's Cassini mission. NASA's Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft imaged the feature over two decades ago. The fact that it has appeared in Cassini images indicates that it is a long-lived feature. A second hexagon, significantly darker than the brighter historical feature, is also visible in the Cassini pictures. The spacecraft's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer is the first instrument to capture the entire hexagon feature in one image. "This is a very strange feature, lying in a precise geometric fashion with six nearly equally straight sides," said Kevin Baines, atmospheric expert and member of Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We've never seen anything like this on any other planet. Indeed, Saturn's thick atmosphere where circularly-shaped waves and convective cells dominate is perhaps the last place you'd expect to see such a six-sided geometric figure, yet there it is." The hexagon is similar to Earth's polar vortex, which has winds blowing in a circular pattern around the polar region. On Saturn, the vortex has a hexagonal rather than circular shape. The hexagon is nearly 25,000 kilometers (15,000 miles) across. Nearly four Earths could fit inside it.The new images taken in thermal-infrared light show the hexagon extends much deeper down into the atmosphere than previously expected, some 100 kilometers (60 miles) below the cloud tops. A system of clouds lies within the hexagon. The clouds appear to be whipping around the hexagon like cars on a racetrack. "It's amazing to see such striking differences on opposite ends of Saturn's poles," said Bob Brown, team leader of the Cassini visual and infrared mapping spectrometer, University of Arizona, Tucson. "At the south pole we have what appears to be a hurricane with a giant eye, and at the north pole of Saturn we have this geometric feature, which is completely different." The Saturn north pole hexagon has not been visible to Cassini's visual cameras, because it's winter in that area, so the hexagon is under the cover of the long polar night, which lasts about 15 years. The infrared mapping spectrometer can image Saturn in both daytime and nighttime conditions and see deep inside. It imaged the feature with thermal wavelengths near 5 microns (seven times the wavelength visible to the human eye) during a 12-day period beginning on Oct. 30, 2006. As winter wanes over the next two years, the feature may become visible to the visual cameras. Based on the new images and more information on the depth of the feature, scientists think it is not linked to Saturn's radio emissions or to auroral activity, as once contemplated, even though Saturn's northern aurora lies nearly overhead. The hexagon appears to have remained fixed with Saturn's rotation rate and axis since first glimpsed by Voyager 26 years ago. The actual rotation rate of Saturn is still uncertain. "Once we understand its dynamical nature, this long-lived, deep-seated polar hexagon may give us a clue to the true rotation rate of the deep atmosphere and perhaps the interior," added Baines. The hexagon images and movie, including the north polar auroras are available at: www.nasa.gov/cassini and saturn.jpl.nasa.gov and wwwvims.lpl.arizona.edu . The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini-Huygens mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The Cassini orbiter was designed, developed and assembled at JPL. The Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer team is based at the University of Arizona. www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034Maybe THAT'S where the honeybees are going...UPDATE:This is a pretty interesting interpretation of the Saturn Hexagon: In Revelation, it is written that the New Jerusalem is to be about 1500 miles wide, long, and deep. I don't recall if there is any mention of a shape. Also, honeybees and bees in general figure in the biblical story of Samson (who tells a riddle about honey from inside the carcass of a lion), and the tribe of Dan, and also, the old testament judge known as Deborah, whose Hebrew name signifies "bee." |
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Post by thisone on Aug 27, 2008 3:47:34 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Aug 27, 2008 7:53:34 GMT -5
Nope -- never heard of the Cassini hoax. I'm the LAST ONE who needs convincing that most of what we have been taught is (intentionally) WRONG, but I'm not sure what you're saying here, thisone. Is the implication that the photo of the hexagon is fake because Cassini never flew past Sarturn? Again, our government lies to us. All of the time, in fact, but why in this instance? It's easier for me to believe that the manned moon missions were fake due to the fact that the capsules would have had to have passed through the deady radiation of the Van Allen Belt, and there's NEVER been any explanation as to how this would have been possible in 1969. In addition, there was a great deal on the line in terms of "getting to the moon before the Soviets". National pride, international reputation, etc. Why fake the Cassini fly-by of Saturn though? Why tell us in 2007 that there's a big old honking Hexagon on the north pole of Saturn if it isn't really there? And if it IS really there, why not just tell us that the image was taken from a telescope, or even the Hubble? Why go to the trouble of saying "remember that satellite thingy we launched ten years ago? Well, it's passing Saturn now and it's taking really cool pictures." I'm really NOT being a smart-alec, I'm just trying to figure out the WHY behind a Cassini hoax.  |
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Post by blackbird on Aug 27, 2008 8:08:51 GMT -5
I just wanted to comment on the disappearance of the honeybees. I realize there are pollutants/toxins that are probably taking them out, but, to tell you the truth, I just wonder if they aren't being "used" for a different reason now. Oh, well, just a thought.
The guy talking in that video is always good. He really has some good insight!
Very interesting about that hexagon.
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Post by thisone on Aug 28, 2008 0:46:43 GMT -5
Why do they do anything they do? To squeeze tax out of people whilst making them feel all patriotic, warm and fuzzy and God Bless America and the Federal Reserve Bank!
If you look closely at the images, it's easy to see they were made by a schoolboy in Photoshop!
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Sept 1, 2008 17:11:01 GMT -5
This story is from last March, but I only just happened across it.
Anybody heard about it before?Cassini Images Bizarre Hexagon on Saturn March 27, 2007 Pasadena, Calif. -- An odd, six-sided, honeycomb-shaped feature circling the entire north pole of Saturn has captured the interest of scientists with NASA's Cassini mission. NASA's Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft imaged the feature over two decades ago. The fact that it has appeared in Cassini images indicates that it is a long-lived feature. A second hexagon, significantly darker than the brighter historical feature, is also visible in the Cassini pictures. The spacecraft's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer is the first instrument to capture the entire hexagon feature in one image. "This is a very strange feature, lying in a precise geometric fashion with six nearly equally straight sides," said Kevin Baines, atmospheric expert and member of Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We've never seen anything like this on any other planet. Indeed, Saturn's thick atmosphere where circularly-shaped waves and convective cells dominate is perhaps the last place you'd expect to see such a six-sided geometric figure, yet there it is." The hexagon is similar to Earth's polar vortex, which has winds blowing in a circular pattern around the polar region. On Saturn, the vortex has a hexagonal rather than circular shape. The hexagon is nearly 25,000 kilometers (15,000 miles) across. Nearly four Earths could fit inside it.The new images taken in thermal-infrared light show the hexagon extends much deeper down into the atmosphere than previously expected, some 100 kilometers (60 miles) below the cloud tops. A system of clouds lies within the hexagon. The clouds appear to be whipping around the hexagon like cars on a racetrack. "It's amazing to see such striking differences on opposite ends of Saturn's poles," said Bob Brown, team leader of the Cassini visual and infrared mapping spectrometer, University of Arizona, Tucson. "At the south pole we have what appears to be a hurricane with a giant eye, and at the north pole of Saturn we have this geometric feature, which is completely different." The Saturn north pole hexagon has not been visible to Cassini's visual cameras, because it's winter in that area, so the hexagon is under the cover of the long polar night, which lasts about 15 years. The infrared mapping spectrometer can image Saturn in both daytime and nighttime conditions and see deep inside. It imaged the feature with thermal wavelengths near 5 microns (seven times the wavelength visible to the human eye) during a 12-day period beginning on Oct. 30, 2006. As winter wanes over the next two years, the feature may become visible to the visual cameras. Based on the new images and more information on the depth of the feature, scientists think it is not linked to Saturn's radio emissions or to auroral activity, as once contemplated, even though Saturn's northern aurora lies nearly overhead. The hexagon appears to have remained fixed with Saturn's rotation rate and axis since first glimpsed by Voyager 26 years ago. The actual rotation rate of Saturn is still uncertain. "Once we understand its dynamical nature, this long-lived, deep-seated polar hexagon may give us a clue to the true rotation rate of the deep atmosphere and perhaps the interior," added Baines. The hexagon images and movie, including the north polar auroras are available at: www.nasa.gov/cassini and saturn.jpl.nasa.gov and wwwvims.lpl.arizona.edu . The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini-Huygens mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The Cassini orbiter was designed, developed and assembled at JPL. The Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer team is based at the University of Arizona. www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034Maybe THAT'S where the honeybees are going...UPDATE:This is a pretty interesting interpretation of the Saturn Hexagon: In Revelation, it is written that the New Jerusalem is to be about 1500 miles wide, long, and deep. I don't recall if there is any mention of a shape. Also, honeybees and bees in general figure in the biblical story of Samson (who tells a riddle about honey from inside the carcass of a lion), and the tribe of Dan, and also, the old testament judge known as Deborah, whose Hebrew name signifies "bee." I've heard about the Red Square Nebula. Something in space that the astromers cannot be sure what it is, it's perfect symmetrical square.... |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 13, 2008 14:25:18 GMT -5
More from Saturn...A MYSTERY GLOWS ON SATURNSaturn's northern aurora glows bluish-green in this color-coded infrared image. The planet's polar cloud patterns are shown in shades of red. Scientists say that the areas of auroral activity close to the pole shouldn't be there.  Scientists say the northern lights on Saturn are unlike anything they've ever seen, on Earth or elsewhere in the solar system. Infrared imagery from the Cassini orbiter, released today to accompany research published in the journal Nature, only adds to the mystery at the top of the ringed planet. Saturn's north pole is already home to a bizarre six-sided cyclone that planetary scientists haven't yet figured out. That observation marked the first time a hexagon had been seen in atmospheric patterns. The northern auroral displays, monitored by Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer, also go against the conventional wisdom. On Earth and Jupiter, for instance, astronomers are used to seeing auroral arcs or rings of light - which glow when energetic particles stream along a planet's magnetic field and interact with the atmosphere. The auroras on Earth, also known as the northern or southern lights, are sparked by the solar wind. Jupiter's main auroral ring is powered by the planet's own magnetic processes. Saturn's main auroral ring, like Earth's, is caused by the solar wind. But the newly observed infrared displays go all over the place. "We've never seen an aurora like this elsewhere," the University of Leicester's Tom Stallard, lead author of the Nature paper, said today in a NASA news release. "It's not just a ring of aurorae like those we've seen at Jupiter or Earth. This one covers an enormous area across the pole. Our current ideas on what forms Saturn's aurorae predict that this region should be empty, so finding such a bright one here is a fantastic surprise." The Hubble Space Telescope has observed Saturn's ultraviolet aurora before, but the widespread infrared aurora wasn't seen because the region where it appears was hidden from Hubble's sight. Cassini, which has been circling Saturn and its satellites for more than four years, has had a much better view of the polar region. The northern infrared aurora has been seen to change size and intensity dramatically as the solar wind varies. Occasionally, it fades completely away, over a period of as little as 45 minutes. "Saturn's unique auroral features are telling us there is something special and unforeseen about this planet's magnetosphere and the way it interacts with the solar wind and the planet's atmosphere," said Nick Achilleos of the University College London, a member of the $3.5 billion Cassini mission's magnetometer team. "Trying to explain its origin will no doubt lead us to physics which uniquely operates in the environment of Saturn." For earlier intimations of Saturn's weird light shows, check out this report from New Scientist, based on research Nature published in June. For the latest about all of Saturn's mysteries, click on over to the Cassini mission's Web site at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. You might also enjoy learning more about Saturn's spooky southern hurricane. While you're at it, don't miss our "Best of Cassini" slide show. And did I mention that Mars, Uranus and Neptune have auroral displays as well?
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Post by B on Nov 14, 2008 9:42:36 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Nov 14, 2008 11:04:05 GMT -5
www.universetoday.com/2008/09/23/saturns-eerie-radio-emission-mapped-in-3-d/ While Saturn and its rings are beautiful and wondrous, the sounds of Saturn are eerie and strange. Scientists have been trying to understand the bizarre radio emissions that come from the ringed planet, called the Saturn Kilometric Radiation (SKR). Scientists have used observations from NASAs Cassini spacecraft build a 3-D picture of these intense radio emissions emanating from Saturn's magnetic field. The SKR radio emissions are generated by high-energy electrons spiraling around magnetic field lines threaded through Saturn's auroras.
Previous Cassini observations have shown that the SKR is closely correlated with the intensity of Saturn's UV aurora and the pressure of the solar wind. “The animation shows radio sources clustered around curving magnetic field lines," said Dr. Baptiste Cecconi, of LESIA, Observatoire de Paris. "Because the radio signals are beamed out from the source in a cone-shape, we can only detect the sources as Cassini flies through the cone. When Cassini flies at high altitudes over the ring planes, we see the sources clearly clustered around one or two field lines. However, at low latitudes we get more refraction and so the sources appear to be scattered." The active area of the magnetic field matched up with near-polar latitudes degrees in both the northern and southern hemisphere, the location of Saturn's UV aurora. Although there were some minor differences between emissions in the northern and southern hemispheres, the emissions were strongest in the western part of Saturn's sunlit hemisphere. This area corresponds to a region of Saturn's magnetopause where electrons are thought to be accelerated by the interaction of the solar wind and Saturn's magnetic field.
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Post by belowme on Aug 4, 2017 23:35:50 GMT -5
I just wanted to comment on the disappearance of the honeybees. I realize there are pollutants/toxins that are probably taking them out, but, to tell you the truth, I just wonder if they aren't being "used" for a different reason now. Oh, well, just a thought. The guy talking in that video is always good. He really has some good insight! Very interesting about that hexagon. |
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Post by belowme on Aug 4, 2017 23:36:35 GMT -5
Nope -- never heard of the Cassini hoax. I'm the LAST ONE who needs convincing that most of what we have been taught is (intentionally) WRONG, but I'm not sure what you're saying here, thisone. Is the implication that the photo of the hexagon is fake because Cassini never flew past Sarturn? Again, our government lies to us. All of the time, in fact, but why in this instance? It's easier for me to believe that the manned moon missions were fake due to the fact that the capsules would have had to have passed through the deady radiation of the Van Allen Belt, and there's NEVER been any explanation as to how this would have been possible in 1969. In addition, there was a great deal on the line in terms of "getting to the moon before the Soviets". National pride, international reputation, etc. Why fake the Cassini fly-by of Saturn though? Why tell us in 2007 that there's a big old honking Hexagon on the north pole of Saturn if it isn't really there? And if it IS really there, why not just tell us that the image was taken from a telescope, or even the Hubble? Why go to the trouble of saying "remember that satellite thingy we launched ten years ago? Well, it's passing Saturn now and it's taking really cool pictures." I'm really NOT being a smart-alec, I'm just trying to figure out the WHY behind a Cassini hoax. With all the Saturn worship symbolism floating around and the hysteria it's causing in religious communities, this hoax is a part of the mind fuck underway to assist with the end times spectacle due any time now. It's going to seem very real and the back stories will check out. But relax it's just NWO propaganda, which me must resist at all costs. |
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