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Post by JoJo on Aug 17, 2006 20:57:04 GMT -5
Quite an amazing story here, an old neighbor with a sketchy history and an arrest for child pornography not only confesses, but insists when asked by reporters that he absolutely is "not innocent". His ex wife insists he was in Alabama during the time of the murder, so..what's going on here? He's stock creepy looking, and the cameras make sure to zoom in and out of his shifty looking eyes at every opportunity. From: LinkHis father, Wexford Karr, told the Denver Post that his son had been deeply interested in the JonBenet Ramsey case and had researched a book on the subject. KGO said Lara Karr told it her ex-husband had also been fascinated by the case of another murdered girl, Polly Klaas, which had attracted wide publicity.It's all you see on the "news", I call distraction, and predict they will get a good month out of it. Anyone remember the big story in August of 2001 and a bit of September? A sex/murder scandal involving a congressman from CA? That they talked about 24/7? Right up until Sept 10, and then...
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Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 17, 2006 21:03:48 GMT -5
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Post by beatlies on Aug 17, 2006 21:56:40 GMT -5
It's all you see on the "news", I call distraction, and predict they will get a good month out of it.
Anyone remember the big story in August of 2001 and a bit of September? A sex/murder scandal involving a congressman from CA? That they talked about 24/7? Right up until Sept 10, and then...
Yes, Chandra Ann Levy, and two year earlier another young woman, a Chinese-American woman, both disappeared and murdered in Washington D.C. and both "UNSOLVED" TO THIS DAY!
From wikipedia ---
Levy's disappearance came two years after the disappearance and declared homicide, under similar circumstances, of Immigration and Naturalization Service attorney Joyce Chiang. Levy's apartment building was four blocks away from Chiang's former building. Levy's remains were found in a D.C. federal parkland area, as were Chiang's belongings, and presumably her body, before it washed up in a nearby river. Both were young, brunette women of petite stature. [citation needed] These similarities have led to various theories that both women were killed by the same person [why does the writer assume it was just "one person" who killed either or both of them?]
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Post by lili on Aug 18, 2006 11:31:42 GMT -5
I just found this: JonBenet Ramsey: Our Little Miss America "The "New" Evidence: Who's DNA Is This?" JonBenet’s body was found in the basement of her home, in a small room that the family used for storage. In a house as large as the Ramsey’s it has been said that no stranger could have found his or her way around the area without prior knowledge. There was a broken window in the basement that John Ramsey claimed he broke the past summer and had intended to deal with it, but just hadn’t fixed it. A blue suitcase sat directly beneath the open window, with a child’s book in it. An extremely crucial mistake, the BPD had leaked it out to the press that not only was the window too small for an adult to climb through, there were no footprints in the snow. In the new American Justice special, Detective Lou Smit shows how easily someone could have lifted the grate and slid down the window, jumping off the small ledge into the basement, only a few feet from the room where JonBenet’s body was found. A full grown man, six feet tall moved the grate and slipped down through the window easily. And the room where JonBenet was found was about 10 steps away. Another urban legend is that there were no footprints in the snow leading to the house. The reality is, at that time, the yard was not covered with fresh snow, and it was patchy and frosty. The “No footprints in the snow “story was made legitimate because the BPD released the statement that there were no footprints in the snow. It got picked up the world round and pointed to the Ramsey’s. There was no fresh coat of thick, powder snow on the ground that in a pristine crime scene might have shown distinct footprints. It would have been easy to walk through the yard and avoid the few cracked and icy patches of two-day old snow on the ground, pulling up the grate and slipping inside. In addition to the fact that there have been seen by law enforcement photos of the back door that have hand written notes, ”Note back door left open”. Evidence photos that I’m sure many people would love to see. Back door left open? I’ve never seen a more obvious sign of intruder than a police photo with that hand written comment. I tried to go back to the website I saw the photo on and it has been taken down. Someone is still trying to cover up the truth. The BPD has finally agreed to work with Lou Smit, where as in the past, because of his convictions that the Ramsey’s are not the perpetrators of this crime, the BPD didn’t want his help. He was too biased. In fact, the BPD doesn’t want anyone’s help. They have never publicly acknowledged that their ineptitude and inexperience made it damn near impossible to find the killer.The BPD didn’t even want help from the FBI and The Serial Killer and Child Abduction Unit in Quantico, Virginia. When Lead Detective Steve Thomas went to the FBI briefings, the officials there were stunned by the information that had been presented. One FBI official said that if anything like this had happened in Quantico, “Thunder would be rolling down the halls” according to Thomas’s book. There has been new DNA evidence that is being tested to see if there is something that was overlooked in the frenzy to convict John and Patsy. There was DNA everywhere that has been overlooked and not properly tested. Lou Smit has brought that DNA evidence with him to be retested. His dedication to this case has never wavered, personal feelings aside, the man has never given up on finding the perpetrator of this crime. The DNA will be tested and with a new cast of Boulder law enforcement and politicians, they have pledged to find the killer. How did JonBenet get downstairs without anyone knowing? According to “The Death Of Innocence” both John and Patsy said JonBenet went strait to bed, wearing white long john leggings and a red turtleneck top. While investigating the house, a red, balled-up wet turtleneck top was found on the counter of JonBenet’s bathroom. Someone changed JonBenet’s clothing before her death. Why? This obviously happened before she was killed, she was found in a white long john shirt with a decorative sequined star. If the red turtleneck was upstairs, someone changed her before her trip downstairs. Her long johns were stained over the crotch with both urine and several areas of red staining, according to her autopsy. This shows that her top may have been changed but most likely her pants were not. On the dining room table there was a bowl with Patsy’s fingerprints on it, full of pineapple. According to JonBenet’s autopsy, she had a small amount of, “fragmented pieces of yellow to light tan apparent vegetable or fruit” which several leading forensics experts, including Dr. Cyril Wecht, a former president of both American Academy of Forensic Sciences and American College of Legal Medicine, concluded that the matter could have been pineapple. The only fingerprints on the bowl belonged to Patsy Ramsey. Patsy said JonBenet went strait to bed eating nothing at home. The autopsy findings show that the matter moving through her body could have taken about two hours for the pineapple to reach her small intestine. Who gave her that pineapple? Or did she just make the bad decision to go get a midnight snack and dump a can of pineapple in a bowl only Patsy had touched? JonBenet told her friend Megan Kostinick that “Santa” had told her that he would make a special visit to her on the day after Christmas. Megan’s mother, Barbara, told JonBenet that Santa came on Christmas Eve, that night, not December 25. No, JonBenet insisted that Santa said it would be after Christmas, and it was a secret. After the crime, Barbara tried to get the police to listen to her story, but they didn’t seem interested. Did JonBenet see Santa at the mall or maybe another Christmas party? How many men dress up and play Santa at Christmas? Could that person have seen her in a pageant or riding her float? I believe that is possible and something the BPD neglected to investigate thoroughly. No one has investigated that theory. And I think many people would agree with that. What if it is was someone watching and waiting? The Steve Thomas book asserts that there is no way they could account for the whereabouts of the hundreds and hundreds of people who saw JonBenet on her float in the Christmas parade. Hundreds and hundreds of people aren’t suspects. Maybe just one person watching, waiting. The note that was left on the stairs, as Patsy claims, was written on a pad that the BPD claimed came from a tablet that was in the Ramsey home, with a sharpie that came from a cup of pens and pencils directly below the phone Patsy used to call the police from. This, unfortunately for the Ramsey’s, turned out to not only have matched the pad of paper but experts have concluded that the sharpie used to make the pen was a pre 1978 ink based pen that had been purchased and used within 3 months of the testing. The sharpie ink was compared to the ink on the ransom note. A perfect match. The note was tested and analyzed by several experts, and all of them had the same unfortunate conclusion: Patsy Ramsey was the only suspect they could not completely rule out as the writer of the note. Many, many people were asked to give numerous samples of handwriting with both right and left hands. This is a common police procedure, called an exemplar, a way of eliminating suspects. The Ramsey’s took many, one of them in the comfortable, plush living room of a high-ranking member of the Boulder District Attorney’s Office. It has made me wonder: if I was a suspect in the murder of my daughter, would my handwriting sample be taken on a soft couch with a cup of coffee and a plate of cookies in front of me? Somehow, I doubt that would be the case. The bottom line is that the Ramsey’s were given preferential treatment because of their wealth and the lawyers that their money was bought with. Finally, there was a Grand Jury. They had three options: indite a suspect, write a report, or do nothing. They chose to do nothing. With the power of the law behind them, they were derelict in their duty to help find the killer, by doing nothing. In my opinion, the Grand Jury was a political dog and pony show. Nothing more than an illusion to make the taxpayers think that the city of Boulder was trying to solve this case. Even writing a report to make public some of the evidence that could have helped to solve this crime was too much work for them. They had the power to help find the killer of this innocent baby and chose to do nothing. www.justicejunction.com/innocence_lost_jonbenet_ramsey_the_dna.htmI don't know what to think at this point. It does appear that there's more to this story than meets the eye. At one time, I thought that it might've been her brother who did it. That would explain her parent's behaviour. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 18, 2006 16:30:54 GMT -5
Looks like an MK- pedo-patsy they'd been grooming for a while to unleash upon cablenews when the time was right.
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Post by JoJo on Aug 18, 2006 17:26:21 GMT -5
In all fairness the news channels are presenting what I'd call "alternative speculation", for example one FBI profiler guy said he may be a "child murder groupie". (how effed up is that, that there even is such a thing?)
Speaking of timing, Patsy (interesting name when you think about it) isn't around to get in the way. Regardless of how it plays out, it will be good for consuming a lot of talking heads time, and for a few weeks for sure.
Meanwhile, over in the middle east...
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 18, 2006 19:13:03 GMT -5
Yes, this seems a really fishy "news" item. After all these years, they all of a sudden find this guy in Bangkok? How convenient...this is a distraction story that will play out for a while, until another 9-11 type of thing takes place. Perhaps WWIII, something Middle East....I just think there's something rotten in Denmark.
I still think the parents either were really in on it, or knew who did it. With all their money, they probably bought their "innocence" and found some pervert who was brainwashed into saying, "I did it".
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Post by revolver on Aug 18, 2006 20:31:41 GMT -5
The guy's story doesn't even check out. Looks like the Boulder DA's office is going to embarrass themselves once again, unless this guy used a teleporter. In his mind, he probably did. I highly doubt the DNA will match.
This story does seem like some kind of distraction from much more important things.
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Post by plastic paul on Aug 20, 2006 17:40:01 GMT -5
I just think there's something rotten in Denmark. Have I missed something?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 20, 2006 20:04:43 GMT -5
Finding this "murderer" in Bangkok, Thailand, after this long? Just using this guy to make the parents look innocent. And the latest thing they said he was going to Bangkok to have a sex change...is that a bit strange?A man goes to a place called "Bangkok" to have a sex change???
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Post by JoJo on Aug 25, 2006 23:08:23 GMT -5
Boston Globe, Aug 25, 2006
This is TV news?
By Scot Lehigh | August 25, 2006
HAVE YOU HEARD that authorities have arrested someone thought to be involved in the murder of JonBenet Ramsey?
I'm being facetious, of course.
Can there be anyone in this entire country who doesn't know that might-be murderer John Mark Karr has been flown back from Thailand and is being held in connection with the 1996 killing?
Or that, on the airplane trip, Karr wore a red short-sleeve shirt and black tie, sat without handcuffs in a business-class seat, had some champagne, a beer, and a glass of white wine, and nibbled on fried king prawns and roast duck?
Beyond an abstract hope that Ramsey's murderer is brought to justice, I have little interest in this story, in part because I wince at the TV coverage; there's something ghoulish about the inevitable photos and footage of the long-dead little girl made into a disconcerting child-woman by pageant frippery.
And yet, it's a story you simply can't avoid, and I don't mean just on the tabloid TV entertainment shows or the cable talk shows, but on the prestigious network news as well.
Take last Thursday, for example. On that day, US District Court Judge Anna Diggs Taylor ruled that the Bush administration's warrantless surveillance program was unconstitutional. Taylor's ruling means that the National Security Agency's communications-monitoring effort is finally beginning to get the judicial scrutiny it needs.
But had you turned on the TV expecting that important story to top the nightly news, you would have been greatly disappointed, for that was the day TV coverage of Karr really got rolling. All three major networks led with the latest development in the decade-old case. By my count, some five minutes of broadcast time had gone by before they began shifting to other stories.
Let's be honest: Newspapers have overplayed this story as well, though they have also adopted a more skeptical approach to Karr's self-incriminating comments.
TV, however, has truly gone overboard.
On Tuesday, when Karr appeared for a brief, minor court hearing in which he waived his right to fight extradition to Colorado, CBS thought the story more consequential than Iran's long-awaited response to the UN about its nuclear program. ABC's nightly news cast was only about eight minutes old when the network launched into its own report about Karr. Why, that made NBC seem almost restrained in waiting about 20 minutes before turning to Karr coverage.
``It's an embarrassment," says Tobe Berkovitz, associate dean of Boston University's School of Communication. ``This case is totally irrelevant to the life of the nation."
Not only that, but there actually are serious events taking place in the world -- events that should be explored more regularly and thoroughly by news organizations with international reach.
Although a cease-fire has ended the war between Israel and Hezbollah, whether the UN can cobble together a workable peace-keeping force remains in question. President Bush insisted this week that the United States will not leave Iraq ``so long as I'm the president," that there is a ``robust" security plan for Baghdad, and that if ``we leave before the mission is done, the terrorists will follow us here."
Those assertions come just two weeks after top US generals conceded Iraq could slide into civil war, and even as on-the-ground reporters such as Time's Aparisim Ghosh and Vanity Fair's William Langewiesche have painted grim pictures of a country dissolving into chaos.
So why do we find ourselves subjected to an overload of supposed news about the decade-old Boulder murder? Network news executives surely know this story doesn't deserve to lead a serious newscast, or even occupy a prominent place in one. But it's an easy matter to cover, and they have obviously decided they can attract and hold viewers by making the lurid case a news staple. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that their bottom-line judgment amounts to this: Many of our viewers can't separate the important from the trivial -- and they will change the channel if we do that for them.
Certainly this episode is another damning demonstration of just how much tabloid TV values have subverted network news judgment. Last spring, when CBS disclosed that Katie Couric would become the next anchor of the CBS Evening News, the announcement triggered some discussion of whether a morning-show personality like Couric had the gravitas necessary for the weighty post.
Given what the networks have shown us lately, I hardly think we need worry.
Scot Lehigh's e-mail address is lehigh@globe.com
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Feb 25, 2019 21:38:05 GMT -5
JonBenet Ramsey Channeled (Part 1) Sloan Bella
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