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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Sept 2, 2008 11:18:45 GMT -5
I happened across a program yesterday on BBC America called Beatles Biggest Secrets. www.bbcamerica.com/content/200/index.jspFor the most part, it was 90 minutes of stuff that would only be new to people who have spent their entire lives under a rock. There was, however, one little gem from Tony Sheridan, who confided that he thought McCartney was GAY for the first few months that he knew him in Hamburg. They'll probably show it again, so keep your eyes peeled. maybe I missed something earth-shattering... |
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Sept 2, 2008 11:23:34 GMT -5
Paul was definitely not gay - he was just English (ha ha :-)) Whether John was may be open for debate... Not that there's anything wrong with that :-P
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Sept 2, 2008 11:48:28 GMT -5
Paul was definitely not gay - he was just English (ha ha :-)) Whether John was may be open for debate... Not that there's anything wrong with that :-P There's been a lot of debate about Paul's sexuality, actually, going as far as suggesting that he had a sex-change operation. "JoJo was a man who thought he was a woman" "Boy you've been a naughty girl, you let your knickers down" "She's so good-looking but she looks like a man" "Desmond stays at home and does HIS pretty face" Also, see the Pearl Witherington thread: invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=TAR&action=display&thread=4682&page=1 |
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Sept 2, 2008 12:31:41 GMT -5
Paul was not gay.
"JoJo was a man who thought he was a woman" - could be a reference to John.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Sept 2, 2008 12:46:52 GMT -5
Paul was not gay. "JoJo was a man who thought he was a woman" - could be a reference to John. It *could* be a reference to Spiro Agnew, for all we know. My only point was that someone who actually knew a young JPM (Tony Sheridan) went on record saying that he THOUGHT he was gay when he first met him, and that Sheridan's observation fits in with some existing theories. I'm not saying that Paul definitely was/is gay, or that he was bigger than Christ as a person, or God as a thing. I just said what I said, and now it's all this...  |
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Sept 2, 2008 12:50:07 GMT -5
Well, maybe Tony Sheridan didn't have good gadar. Anything could be possible, but I am certain Paul wasn't gay.
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Post by mommybird on Sept 2, 2008 12:54:55 GMT -5
(P)Denny, everything that you cited was written, recorded AFTER JPM left the scene.
As far as Sheridan's recollections, it could be sour grapes for all we know. Maybe he's had a falling out with Sir Paul over the years & is trying to get a dig in at him. Who knows why people say things.
I do know that Paul was most definitely NOT gay.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. I was married to a gay man for 3 years ( 1st marriage ) and my one son IS gay.
A real flamer, and damn proud of it.
I love him to pieces ! ;D
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Sept 2, 2008 13:37:22 GMT -5
(P)Denny, everything that you cited was written, recorded AFTER JPM left the scene. As far as Sheridan's recollections, it could be sour grapes for all we know. Maybe he's had a falling out with Sir Paul over the years & is trying to get a dig in at him. Who knows why people say things. I do know that Paul was most definitely NOT gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I was married to a gay man for 3 years ( 1st marriage ) and my one son IS gay. A real flamer, and damn proud of it. I love him to pieces ! ;D Sheesh, this is turning into a can of worms... I cited what Tony Sheridan said because it's relevant to this forum, and because it's the only bit from the entire 90 minutes of the documentary that I found to be revelatory in even the slightest way, and only because it's not every day you hear something like that from a "mainstream" source. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. There was never any implication that there IS anything wrong with being gay. Not even from Tony Sheridan. He was just saying that there was a certain flair to Paul that INITIALLY gave him the impression that he was gay, and I simply reported what HE said -- again, because I thought it might be of interest to this forum, due to some of the previous threads about sexual ambiguity and the FOUR PAGE thread about Pearl Witherington. Finally, as I indicated in the original post, Sheridan said that he THOUGHT Paul was gay for the first few months that he knew him, which literally means that he came to believe otherwise.I suppose I could have been clearer, but I was simply connecting Sheridan's original perception with a few of the more off-the-wall theories that have been discussed.  |
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Post by B on Sept 2, 2008 13:48:08 GMT -5
Whoever made these Pilgrim's Progress videos suggests implicitly that John had a relationship with Paul, in the Biblical sense. I would recommend these videos not as proof of anything, but as a possible explanation of some of what went on. That is, they tell a part of the Beatles story. It may not be pleasant to think of Paul having been John's submissive, but it would explain some things, and some Beatle lyrics. "The "girl " that's driving me mad is going away" possibly, for one. "I'm a loser, and I'm not what I appear to be" etc. Bear in mind that in "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", a song that ends with George mourning for Paul, there is the line: "You were perverted too." There is just no way for us "average Joe"s to comprehend what kind of weirdness the Beatles may have been subjected to. I have included the video of Brice Taylor for edification. I highly recommend watching these. They're relatively short. PiIgrimsProgress's videos: www.youtube.com/user/PiIgrimsProgressPrologue: Happily Never AfterI'll be on my way. www.youtube.com/watch?v=L69GcNxBDD8Act 1: Loneliness..Is a Warm MonkeyIf I ain't dead already... www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHvimWgAoq4Act 2: Imagine Starting OverHappiness is a warm gun. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DT9KHLtRNMAct 3: He Walked Out NakedWasn't there once a way to get back home? www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiGY_r4dXMsEpilogue - Mind Games Forever (Lifting The Veil)Some call it magick. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjfczTPxo3s--------------------------------------- Brice Taylor - CIA Sex Slave Part Two(gives a whole new meaning to "balloon or dolphin")www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw3qv2c7Cw4listen: the beatles -top twelve- unhappy bad and sad relationshipswww.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRb85T7T-c |
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Sept 2, 2008 16:03:41 GMT -5
John may have wanted to know Paul in the Biblical sense, I'll grant you that.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Sept 3, 2008 10:08:15 GMT -5
Whoever made these Pilgrim's Progress videos suggests implicitly that John had a relationship with Paul, in the Biblical sense. I would recommend these videos not as proof of anything, but as a possible explanation of some of what went on. That is, they tell a part of the Beatles story. It may not be pleasant to think of Paul having been John's submissive, but it would explain some things, and some Beatle lyrics. "The "girl " that's driving me mad is going away" possibly, for one. "I'm a loser, and I'm not what I appear to be" etc. Bear in mind that in "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", a song that ends with George mourning for Paul, there is the line: "You were perverted too." There is just no way for us "average Joe"s to comprehend what kind of weirdness the Beatles may have been subjected to. I have included the video of Brice Taylor for edification. I highly recommend watching these. They're relatively short. PiIgrimsProgress's videos: www.youtube.com/user/PiIgrimsProgressPrologue: Happily Never AfterI'll be on my way. www.youtube.com/watch?v=L69GcNxBDD8Act 1: Loneliness..Is a Warm MonkeyIf I ain't dead already... www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHvimWgAoq4Act 2: Imagine Starting OverHappiness is a warm gun. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DT9KHLtRNMAct 3: He Walked Out NakedWasn't there once a way to get back home? www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiGY_r4dXMsEpilogue - Mind Games Forever (Lifting The Veil)Some call it magick. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjfczTPxo3s--------------------------------------- Brice Taylor - CIA Sex Slave Part Two(gives a whole new meaning to "balloon or dolphin")www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw3qv2c7Cw4listen: the beatles -top twelve- unhappy bad and sad relationshipswww.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRb85T7T-cI'm pretty familiar with the Brice Taylor stuff, B, and with mind control in general. We (society at large) have been "programmed" to think that mind control is crazy woo woo stuff, but it exists on multiple levels. In fact the very paradigm in which we exist is CONSTANT mind control, from cradle to grave. Every single aspect of our "reality" has been engineered with the specific goal of creating slaves who THINK they are free. There's almost nowhere to turn for real truth, so the lies become the truth, and one becomes buried so deep in the lies that when a rare truth comes along, it's not even recognizable as the truth, because there's nothing to compare it to. The paradigm has been telling us that the truth is CRAZY for so long that we've all come to believe it, even when it flies in the face of our own internal logic. Our inherent perceptive abilities have been systematically put to sleep, and replaced by a reliance on "experts" to explain things to us. And when those "experts" have all been coopted by the the same people who created the paradigm, and presented to us via the most powerful mind control device ever created (TV), well...game, set, and match, sports fans. Now, having said all of that, let's discuss the Brice Taylor stuff a bit. I have absolutely zero trouble believing that the world elite are involved in mind control sex slave trafficking. After all, it's what logically makes sense. Some percentage of people, regardless of race, religion, socioeconomic status, etc, are only bound by fear of punishment. In other words, these people would do just about anything, as long as they could be assured that they wouldn't get caught. If we carry this one step further, and suggest that a certain percentage of the ruling elite are cut from this same cloth, then it's only logical to think that there are very rich and powerful people who are living out their twisted fantasies on a daily basis, pretty much with impunity. Do you really think that a guy like Cheney feels bound by the law? I mean seriouosly, even the crumbs of real news that manage to leak into the mainstream will tell you that he doesn't let silly things like laws get in his way. And once you accept that MK Ultra (CIA mind control) is real, (which it is) then you you've got to seriously consider that things like this really go on: Cheney's Most Dangerous Game: www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/dangerous_game.htm And if you accept the above, then it's really not much of a stretch to start considering that our leaders exercise so much control over our reality that they begin to feel like gods. The type of gods who perhaps created great deceptions like the Beatles, and the Zodiac, and Manson, and have now begun to reveal those deceptions. After all, that's what gods do when they've grown tired of exercising their power over life and death, right? |
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Post by B on Sept 3, 2008 12:00:11 GMT -5
Lennon - McCartney: My Old Friend www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSXzox57e-oI Know You By Heart - Lennon/Mccartney www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxUhw_c4LqsP(D)enny La(i)ne wrote: "The type of gods who perhaps created great deceptions like the Beatles, and the Zodiac, and Manson, and have now begun to reveal those deceptions.
After all, that's what gods do when they've grown tired of exercising their power over life and death, right?"I don't agree with that statement at all. The Cheney's etc. hate any disclosure. And the Beatles, while "a contrivance" of sorts, are not in with the wicked deceivers camp, imo. Remember: "They don't like him, the fool." The Beatles were, and are "the good guys" in this drama. That may not seem to be the case yet, but the fat lady hasn't sung, though "the bells are starting to ring" from what I've heard. www.youtube.com/neilaspinaIIAre you sleeping, www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8uRB3cuz2gAre you sleeping? Brother John? Brother John? Morning bells are ringing, Morning bells are ringing, Ding ding dong, Ding ding dong. Nostradamus Century 10, quatrain 74: The year seven of the great number being past There shall be seen the sports of the ghostly sacrifice. Not far from the great age of the millennium, That the buried shall come out of their graves. Phoney Quest from iMphoney
1357924680 lnfohrogrmee www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JbdrR6KaOYTags: imphoney iamaphoney paul ciphers lives cryptograms in france
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Sept 3, 2008 12:06:58 GMT -5
Ha! It should have been backed by WIND BENEATH MY WINGS! |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Sept 3, 2008 12:59:05 GMT -5
Lennon - McCartney: My Old Friend www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSXzox57e-oI Know You By Heart - Lennon/Mccartney www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxUhw_c4LqsP(D)enny La(i)ne wrote: "The type of gods who perhaps created great deceptions like the Beatles, and the Zodiac, and Manson, and have now begun to reveal those deceptions.
After all, that's what gods do when they've grown tired of exercising their power over life and death, right?"I don't agree with that statement at all. The Cheney's etc. hate any disclosure. And the Beatles, while "a contrivance" of sorts, are not in with the wicked deceivers camp, imo. Remember: "They don't like him, the fool." The Beatles were, and are "the good guys" in this drama. That may not seem to be the case yet, but the fat lady hasn't sung, though "the bells are starting to ring" from what I've heard. www.youtube.com/neilaspinaIIAre you sleeping, www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8uRB3cuz2gAre you sleeping? Brother John? Brother John? Morning bells are ringing, Morning bells are ringing, Ding ding dong, Ding ding dong. Nostradamus Century 10, quatrain 74: The year seven of the great number being past There shall be seen the sports of the ghostly sacrifice. Not far from the great age of the millennium, That the buried shall come out of their graves. I'm not saying that the Beatles are the BAD guys, B. I'm just saying that they WERE a contrivance to a certain extent, and that all of this Iamaphoney stuff smacks of revelations to me, with a capital 'R'. And the revelations I'm talking about aren't the type of disclosure that the Cheney's hate. After all, I'm NOT suggesting that Cheney, Kissinger, Brzezinsky, Bush 41, etc are going to testify on a stack of Satanic bibles and turn themselves in to the authorities for all of their evil deeds. It would be WAY more their style to have a team of CIA/MI6 types create a bunch of anonymous Youtube videos that are coded to show the enterprising among us that everything they thought they knew about the past 50 years (and more) was wrong. From the Beatles, to Manson, to the Zodiac, to JFK, to RFK, to Chapman, to Kubrick, to King, it's all been a put-on, an EMININENCE FRONT, if you will, serving the interests of the people at the top. THAT is the type of hidden in plain site revelation that the Cheneys, etc would embrace whole-heartedly. It's the final kick in the teeth, because as I said above, the truth SEEMS so crazy that nobody's going to believe it anyway. Sister Suzie Brother JohnMartin Luther Phil and Don Brother Michael Auntie Gin Open the door and let em in ;D |
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Post by iameye on Sept 3, 2008 12:59:32 GMT -5
I beg to differ about the "Cheny" people....I think "they" are pushing this along also....and it's only just begun.....
John Donne’s Meditation XVII
“never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee”
EA Poe
“while the chimes of the clock yet rang it was observed that the giddiest grew pale, and the more aged and sedate passed their hands over their brows as if in confused reverie or meditation; ...after the lapse of sixty minutes (which embrace three thousand and six hundred seconds of the time that flies), there came yet another chiming of the clock, and then were the same disconcert and tremulousness and meditation as before.”
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Post by mommybird on Sept 3, 2008 13:25:19 GMT -5
I'll grant you that also. Thank you, (P) Denny for the clarification. Paul did have a certain flair, didn't he ? I think that came from his Da. His Da seemed to be a real "Dapper Dan ". ;D  |
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