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Post by Doc on Sept 23, 2008 5:47:11 GMT -5
The weirdest thing just happened. I had actually gone to bed about an hour ago. I began to drift off to sleep, and sometimes you see little not quite dreams and stuff andhear things as you approach dreamland. Well, a woman in a grecian outfit walked passed me (!) and she said, "it's cause we're a thelemic race."
I was pondering why things went on in the world as they did. And she seemed to make that remark to me as she walked past and beyond and away from me.
"We're a thelemic race."
What is this about?
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Post by iameye on Sept 23, 2008 7:35:34 GMT -5
The weirdest thing just happened. I had actually gone to bed about an hour ago. I began to drift off to sleep, and sometimes you see little not quite dreams and stuff andhear things as you approach dreamland. Well, a woman in a grecian outfit walked passed me (!) and she said, "it's cause we're a thelemic race." I was pondering why things went on in the world as they did. And she seemed to make that remark to me as she walked past and beyond and away from me. "We're a thelemic race." What is this about? probably this: "The establishment of the Law of Thelema is the only way to preserve individual liberty and to ensure the future of the race." There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt. Love is the law, love under will." were you perplexed? |
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Post by Doc on Sept 23, 2008 10:44:06 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Sept 23, 2008 12:35:02 GMT -5
she spoke to you in the past, present and future. Maybe it's a time travel thing  |
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 23, 2008 19:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Sept 24, 2008 0:23:08 GMT -5
When I answered horsephatlovers post with the "quote" function, his entire post was repeated, and replied with a link about the word OZ compared to the Hebrew word Os for strength. I had only skimmed it. I missed "thelema". Thelema is new to me. I have never known "thelemic" or how to use it. I feel weird not being believed, but one gets used to the feeling. I know I was truthful. I'll probably ask the Greek lady to desist with her commentary and go elsewhere. Sorry, TI. |
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Post by Doc on Sept 24, 2008 2:48:38 GMT -5
darn it let me sleep
so tonight she asks,
"who's larry chessington", or "how's larry, chessington", I dunno something like that
I told her I had no idea, and goodnight
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Post by The Deceptionist on Sept 28, 2008 17:46:09 GMT -5
i just read someone post this on an ebook site, reminded me of your grecian lady friend, doc:
"...I meant that Thelema is merely a word, not dogmatic religion. By uttering the word Thelema I mean Universal Free Will, witch [sic] is then one of the most profound truths to be found out there."
so thinking again of your half-dream, it would go:
doc: why do things go on in the world as they do?
lady: it's cause we're a thelemic race
so perhaps what she's saying is that its down to free will
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Post by Doc on Sept 28, 2008 23:34:19 GMT -5
i just read someone post this on an ebook site, reminded me of your grecian lady friend, doc: "...I meant that Thelema is merely a word, not dogmatic religion. By uttering the word Thelema I mean Universal Free Will, witch [sic] is then one of the most profound truths to be found out there." so thinking again of your half-dream, it would go: doc: why do things go on in the world as they do? lady: it's cause we're a thelemic race so perhaps what she's saying is that its down to free will First, let me say to you thank you for your astute reply, and I really appreciate the respect that shows, and your keenness. And I agree totally with your reply. Absolutely correct. And, though it isn't religious, even in the New Testament, when the will of God is spoken of by Paul or whomever, the Greek work used is "thelema", so it's anyone's free will, or self will, or personal will. It's what I want, he wants, she wants. Paul has thelema, Mary, Fred, Sun King, William, Jojo, Janet Jackson and even Jesus had it, though he denied Himself of it. This is a world of free wills. The Free Will Place. The Happening! The "it's all on you, Shirley" zone of existence. It's beautiful, rich, warm, yet also stark, cold, scary, and dangerous. It where bad things happen to good people. And good thing happen to bad people. And bad and good happens to everybody. It's juicy, it's alive, it's multi-dimensional, and it's hip and groovy. As the human race now is, I guess, we are composed by a collective of individuals all equipped with this most marvelous feature. And that must be the point to the whole game. And it's wonderful! And then sometimes, it's horrible! The world has the things that happen in it because of the horror and the wonder of free will. So the lady was right. Totally right. What is so bizarre, is I did NOT know that word, really. Maybe I had heard or seen it, but I had never focused on it, intentionally read about it or applied it. I had never used the word, and as of the evening I had the dream, I was personally incapable of having constructed that answer. I didn't construct it. I heard it passively in beta waves, or whichever is the one in the twilight before real sleep. If you had said to me, "Doc, I want you to creatively express this idea in one of your flights of fancy: The things that go on in the world, bad and good, are a result of mankind having freewill." Well, I would resort to my usual syntax, puns, ellipses, etc, and I would NEVER have arrived at thelema. It would have been missing from my post. Had you been expecting it, you would have been disappointed. Until now. Rejoice; I can use thelema till the cows come home and may. Not "in May", but "and MAY"; I don't know the cows schedule; but I'll bet the lady in the toga does........ It hapenned again the other night.I was musing on Judy Garland's death, and why she overdosed and how sad and out of control her life was, and I read where she had contracted Hepatitis young and developed cirrhosis a bit later, and the comment came: Well, and if only they'd autopsied her liver, they would have found numerous granulomas. Well, prior to googling after the event, I didn't know what a granuloma is, or where they grew, or even what they amount to, but I googled granuloma and liver disease, and sure enough it's an established known medical situation. I then googled Judy Garland and granuloma, and nothing connected came up. I mean, you get results with a lot of ellipses; no where could I find a discussion of Ms. Garland AND her granulomas. But I don't know if it's true. But before I heard this, I have no memory of granulomas in the liver, or ever having talked about it or knowing anyone who had them. Did Garland have them? I dunno. Too late to find out now! It's very weird. It happens as I transition off. The thing is, I HEAR them in my head, I do not THINK them. I couldn't have thought them, or wouldn't have thought them, the connection is born as I hear it. And then I check. Weird. If this continues to happen, I may begin to play music to drown out the Greek lady. I'm sure she's nice and all but I'll go daffy if I follow this too far. "He hears voice; he thinks he's Joan D'Arc." Nonsense. Joan looked like Mia Farrow. But let's not worry about Judy Garland's liver. |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 0:01:00 GMT -5
Not one to play with fire, but willing to experiment, I shut my eyes and in a silent room thought of nothing, and I began to hear a phrase of music that I do not know. It was a rock and roll type song, and the hook lyric was" Run Down the Hill"
It was sung twice, then some chords, then sung twice again, i.e. "RUN DOWN THE HILL, RUN DOWN THE HILL, music music music music "RUN DOWN THE HILL, RUN DOWN THE HILL" etc.
The melody is a repeated "E" and a male is singing, maybe with harmony below.
Is it in A, or C?
OK enough, now I go to itunes or wherever to find such a song.
I do not do this in the spirit of a parlor card game. It's just to see whazzup.
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 0:24:47 GMT -5
Nothing on iTunes but found this: www.leverageband.com/index_2.phpthe band Leverage from Finland, their new album has a song entitled "Run Down the River" but the only samples I find feature a long instrumental. I will get it though, if only to hear that the vocal hook is NOTHING like I stated in order to prove that I am, indeed, twice the fruitcake that people here already THOUGHT that I was( in believing that some ancient Greek phantasm is whispering sweet nothings in my ear trying to tell me something.) Actually they are a terrific heavy rock band. |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 0:28:53 GMT -5
whew, maybe it's true: www.spirit-of-metal.com/parole-groupe-Leverage-nom_album-Blind_Fire-l-en.html8. RUN DOWN The wind's blowing ashes The sky's filled with dust Too scared to run But God knows we must Missed our last ride to a safe haven Caught in a landslide Of molten crust Preachers of wisdom Victims of trust Some are cryin', some are praying Run down the hill Like never before Mind your footsteps Fly, don't fall The ground is shaking The earth is breathing fire Oh Holy Maria What have we done Leaning the wrong way The hill's going down Trading places, Hell and Heaven Run down the hill Stumble, be gone The devil's laughing above us all Twisting, breaking The earth is breathing fire Run down the hill (3x) Just run it down Run it down Just run it down Run down the hill At the end it repeats, according to this. If it's an E natural repeated.......is it an A chord or an C chord....though the song may be in E mainly........ i am losing it |
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Post by ramone on Sept 29, 2008 0:30:22 GMT -5
''you get results with a lot of ellipses;''
''Nonsense. Joan looked like Mia Farrow.'' (or Fia Farrow?)
---------------Foan D'Arc
---------------Phone D'Arc
---------------Audio ellipses
Have you been getting any creative surges?
Music scores, melodies, or anything not even related to music for that matter?
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 1:13:14 GMT -5
''you get results with a lot of ellipses;'' ''Nonsense. Joan looked like Mia Farrow.'' (or Fia Farrow?) ---------------Foan D'Arc ---------------Phone D'Arc ---------------Audio ellipses Have you been getting any creative surges? Music scores, melodies, or anything not even related to music for that matter? They come and go, just as Boy George said that they would. You know, You karma karma karma karma karma chameleon. You come and go, you come and go, ho ho ho... red gold and green As I fall asleep the fringes of my mind start to entertwine with the ethers, I guess. But sure, if I can make it entertaining, too, that's ok. haha that would be entertwaining........... What have you though, to say in regards to creative surges? |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 2:26:44 GMT -5
I found the song and downloaded it. rs215.rapidshare.com/files/79770514/Leverage-BlindFire_Promo__2008_.rarThat's the whole album. They are REALLY very very good. The songs starts with a tense, extended instrumental exposition, full of bravura, over a pedal D#, which really functions as a V major in G#m minor. Their is a deceptive side step to a IV minor chord (C#m) theu the initial verses, where the progression steps around between C#m, A/C#, B, F#m D#major, sneaking once thru G#minor as an approach to F#major--but its all just pentatonic minor play until at 1'20" at the first word of the chorus, "RUN" we get relief and finally hit a I (one) chord! A tonic G#m. ALL that build up. Brilliant harmonic choice---it make the first statement of "Run down the Hill" deliver a real bang. What I heard SORT OF happens at 4 minutes and 8 seconds.It's in a section temporarily more in a C#m key center (a sidestep really) but a real nice climb back to the las chorus. The melody DOES start on an "E" and descends down "E", "D#" "B" "C#", run---down--the----hill------and the singer holds hill while chords change underneath. That does happen the same twice, the third time the vocal line changes up and starts higher. Did I pick it out of a hat? I heard this, never heard it before, and found it. Can't prove it. Blow me off if you want to.(i.e. ignore me) And repeats. I've never heard of this band or heard this song.Probably, though, now TO will come along and tell me that this song happens to be on maximum rotation on VH1 and its the Democratic Party's New Theme played everyday on all channels. Or he may said that I am delusional. He may be right. If I could have "held on to it longer" in my mind my analysis might have been more on. I heard just that little section. With practice, I think I can get better at this. Maybe. Or, become more venal, foolish, and delusional. The second outcome is more popular. Let's see what happens. |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 2:50:09 GMT -5
Thing is, if I go to bed thinking about, What were the abbey road recording sessions in say, 1965, like, will I hear some Lennon catch phrases, or George Martin cajoling the boys for messing up a lyric or a harmony? Will I hear Brian Epstein walk into session and queen it up? Will I hear Ringo tell a funny joke? Or Harrison tell John that he's a bit out of tune? Or Paul say-----"I quit, you sods."
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Probably not.
I imagine I'll get static, or a BBC type voice announcer, "And this is the BBC. It's 1100 hours Greenwich."
snore
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 3:01:03 GMT -5
ok, i posited--it's 1965, the beatles are recording "michelle" and what is going on in the studio? What happened that day? What happened. What happened, and really nothing but a silly picture came to me, the image of the flatbread type of crackers, unleavened, the kind that are scored in order to break into smaller ones, and some green mint jelly in a jar, homemade and people eating it, a messy table with snacls and little cups, and Lennon is laughing, but Paul complains that the green jelly crap, mess, whatever, gets stuck in his throat.
To which someone responds--ok, that NEVER happened. Doc, take a melatonin a give it up. You're boring us with the pseudo-psychic self-indulgent trips to la-la-town.
Really, do movie reviews or post pictures of Rock Hudson; it be more enjoyable.
Ok. Fine. Rock Hudson starts tomorrow. And I'll watch and review "Giant", but I need a week for that.
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Post by iameye on Sept 29, 2008 8:18:41 GMT -5
Doc, ya had me going with the mint jelly..... ;D have you tried getting the next big powerball numbers, Mr Casey? post em' if ya got 'em  |
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Post by The Deceptionist on Sept 29, 2008 12:59:51 GMT -5
So the lady was right. Totally right. What is so bizarre, is I did NOT know that word, really. Maybe I had heard or seen it, but I had never focused on it, intentionally read about it or applied it. I had never used the word, and as of the evening I had the dream, I was personally incapable of having constructed that answer. I didn't construct it. I heard it passively in beta waves, or whichever is the one in the twilight before real sleep. ........ It hapenned again the other night.I was musing on Judy Garland's death, and why she overdosed and how sad and out of control her life was, and I read where she had contracted Hepatitis young and developed cirrhosis a bit later, and the comment came: Well, and if only they'd autopsied her liver, they would have found numerous granulomas. Well, prior to googling after the event, I didn't know what a granuloma is, or where they grew, or even what they amount to, but I googled granuloma and liver disease, and sure enough it's an established known medical situation. I then googled Judy Garland and granuloma, and nothing connected came up. I mean, you get results with a lot of ellipses; no where could I find a discussion of Ms. Garland AND her granulomas. But I don't know if it's true. But before I heard this, I have no memory of granulomas in the liver, or ever having talked about it or knowing anyone who had them. well i'd imagine that despite not consciously taking in the concept of thelema, your subconscious could perhaps have processed it and filed it away for another day - or night lol but the judy garland stuff i can't explain - i'm a head not a doctor, jim! unless.. been watching much discovery channel lately doc..? |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 18:40:45 GMT -5
So the lady was right. Totally right. What is so bizarre, is I did NOT know that word, really. Maybe I had heard or seen it, but I had never focused on it, intentionally read about it or applied it. I had never used the word, and as of the evening I had the dream, I was personally incapable of having constructed that answer. I didn't construct it. I heard it passively in beta waves, or whichever is the one in the twilight before real sleep. ........ It hapenned again the other night.I was musing on Judy Garland's death, and why she overdosed and how sad and out of control her life was, and I read where she had contracted Hepatitis young and developed cirrhosis a bit later, and the comment came: Well, and if only they'd autopsied her liver, they would have found numerous granulomas. Well, prior to googling after the event, I didn't know what a granuloma is, or where they grew, or even what they amount to, but I googled granuloma and liver disease, and sure enough it's an established known medical situation. I then googled Judy Garland and granuloma, and nothing connected came up. I mean, you get results with a lot of ellipses; no where could I find a discussion of Ms. Garland AND her granulomas. But I don't know if it's true. But before I heard this, I have no memory of granulomas in the liver, or ever having talked about it or knowing anyone who had them. well i'd imagine that despite not consciously taking in the concept of thelema, your subconscious could perhaps have processed it and filed it away for another day - or night lol but the judy garland stuff i can't explain - i'm a head not a doctor, jim! unless.. been watching much discovery channel lately doc..? I dunno. I must be finally 'round the bend. www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Thelemaalso: www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Holy-Guardian-Angelwhere we read about: Variations in Crowley's view of the HGA Crowley only espouses a view that the HGA is the 'silent self' in his early life. In his seventies, when composing Magick without Tears, he presents a completely different and diametrically opposed view. According to this definition, the HGA is not one's 'self', but an independent and discrete being, who may have been a human like oneself at one stage: "Now, on the other hand, there is an entirely different type of angel; and here we must be especially careful to remember that we include gods and devils, for there are such beings who are not by any means dependent one one particular element for their existence. They are microcosms in exactly the same sense as men and women are. They are individuals who have picked up the elements of their composition as possibility and convenience dictates, exactly as we do ourselves... I believe that the Holy Guardian Angel is a Being of this order. He is something more than a man, possibly a being who has already passed through the stage of humanity, and his peculiarly intimate relationship with his client is that of friendship, of community, of brotherhood, or Fatherhood. He is not, let me say with emphasis, a mere abstraction from yourself; and that is why I have insisted rather heavily that the term "Higher Self" implies "a damnable heresy and a dangerous delusion." - Crowley, Magick Without Tears Carroll & the HGA Peter Carroll split the concept in two and speaks of two "Holy Guardian Angels". According to him, one is the Augoeides, a projected image of whatever the magician strives for, and the other is quantum uncertainty, which he says ultimately determines the acts of the magician and is a spark of the only true creative force, chaos, much as previous concepts have spoken of the Guardian angel as a spark of divinity. However, Crowley's view on the subject remains the more popular one. wapedia.mobi/en/Thelemawww.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Thelema&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=titleA spiritual and social philosophy calling each person to act in alignment with his or her True Will (which may or may not be the same as personal wishes) as a basis for spiritual growth en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thelema Also, I can not find the answer to this. The figure who drifted past me who said the bit about thelemic race, was female and Greek. The word thelema is Greek, and I wonder if it is a feminine noun? That would go hand and hand with the image of the one who brought the word to me. I haven't seen her since. |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 19:04:45 GMT -5
So the lady was right. Totally right. What is so bizarre, is I did NOT know that word, really. Maybe I had heard or seen it, but I had never focused on it, intentionally read about it or applied it. I had never used the word, and as of the evening I had the dream, I was personally incapable of having constructed that answer. I didn't construct it. I heard it passively in beta waves, or whichever is the one in the twilight before real sleep. ........ It hapenned again the other night.I was musing on Judy Garland's death, and why she overdosed and how sad and out of control her life was, and I read where she had contracted Hepatitis young and developed cirrhosis a bit later, and the comment came: Well, and if only they'd autopsied her liver, they would have found numerous granulomas. Well, prior to googling after the event, I didn't know what a granuloma is, or where they grew, or even what they amount to, but I googled granuloma and liver disease, and sure enough it's an established known medical situation. I then googled Judy Garland and granuloma, and nothing connected came up. I mean, you get results with a lot of ellipses; no where could I find a discussion of Ms. Garland AND her granulomas. But I don't know if it's true. But before I heard this, I have no memory of granulomas in the liver, or ever having talked about it or knowing anyone who had them. well i'd imagine that despite not consciously taking in the concept of thelema, your subconscious could perhaps have processed it and filed it away for another day - or night lol but the judy garland stuff i can't explain - i'm a head not a doctor, jim! unless.. been watching much discovery channel lately doc..? Then I suppose that as long as the oddities I.... experience can only be thought of as from some subconscious process and re-arrangement, then not until I testify to some as yet unknown thing will it indicate some paranormal exchange of information. For instance, if I heard an unreleased record album, or a phrase from one such thing, or heard of a news item before it happened; and only then a news item not obvious or anticipated or an item that could not be known of or calculated by the subject (, er, wll, me) but a verifiable and exact testimony with precise detail that tallies perfectly by multiple witnesses to a demonstrable likeness. whut? Doc's Axiom #13-----It's too easy to second guess unknowns with reasonable accuracy; however, correctly publishing certain technical specifics that beat the odds of guesswork indicate inside knowledge, involvement, or clairvoyance, but NOT luck or reasonable assertion. i.e. The subconscious is a trip, maybe it's regurgitating on me. Or.....maybe...... the ether is spilling into my head. |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 19:08:03 GMT -5
John in 1966.
"emergency"
Paul in 1966
"competitive action"
Any relevance?
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 19:56:50 GMT -5
Doc, ya had me going with the mint jelly..... ;D have you tried getting the next big powerball numbers, Mr Casey? post em' if ya got 'em lol well, to cause someone to lose a dollar of their hard earned money would be wrong. I would not advise numbers, games, or odds to anyone. I don't think it works like that. Hmm...or if does, the ether might feed me the worst numbers to spite my abuse of things. Gamble at your own risk. My advise is don't gamble. But, 9 will get you 10, that this presidential race is going to be a doozy. I don't think Palin is dumb, but I do think it would take her a while to get caught up to snuff on issues and poise. Poise matters cause it affects public confidence. I am sure McCain is more aggressive on the inside than out; he is tired and I am afraid jaded, too much to serve the office well. I am nervous about several Republican agendas of late. Though I have in the past been for GOP candidates, I have recently flipped; I will be voting for the Obama/Biden ticket this November. Who wants to go first? Democrats win, you pay me $35 dollars....wait, sorry, oh stop never mind. No gambling.....no gambling.....no MORE gambling......\ Bye. I half to go to my 12 step meeting. (1) admitted I am powerless over betting and over 10ยข slot machines. (2) came to know that I needed an HP to in which to entrust my funds and cash. (3) Admitted that only HP could save me from gambling, and help me save money. So, whenever a have a slip up and a gambling binge, I can rely on my HP to keep me OK and in the green:  When I gamble it all away, I can just print more!* * Intended as comedy. Please do not try this at home. I would never actually counterfeit any national currencies. |
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Post by ramone on Sept 29, 2008 23:08:47 GMT -5
''you get results with a lot of ellipses;'' ''Nonsense. Joan looked like Mia Farrow.'' (or Fia Farrow?) ---------------Foan D'Arc ---------------Phone D'Arc ---------------Audio ellipses Have you been getting any creative surges? Music scores, melodies, or anything not even related to music for that matter? They come and go, just as Boy George said that they would. You know, You karma karma karma karma karma chameleon. You come and go, you come and go, ho ho ho... red gold and green As I fall asleep the fringes of my mind start to entertwine with the ethers, I guess. But sure, if I can make it entertaining, too, that's ok. haha that would be entertwaining........... What have you though, to say in regards to creative surges? Well, I believe in some brainwave states creative stuff may start churning. Things somewhat on the intuitive side may flow at certain times. Could be some from you, some off the 'server' that might be out there. Little bit of both? |
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2008 23:24:03 GMT -5
They come and go, just as Boy George said that they would. You know, You karma karma karma karma karma chameleon. You come and go, you come and go, ho ho ho... red gold and green As I fall asleep the fringes of my mind start to entertwine with the ethers, I guess. But sure, if I can make it entertaining, too, that's ok. haha that would be entertwaining........... What have you though, to say in regards to creative surges? Well, I believe in some brainwave states creative stuff may start churning. Things somewhat on the intuitive side may flow at certain times. Could be some from you, some off the 'server' that might be out there. Little bit of both? Perhaps so. Some subconscious echoes. Some deep processing. And an unexpected flash or two. I am sitting trying to make it happen now, and it just won't. I have to shut the eyes and start drifting or no go. Maybe a part of my brain is trapped shut while I am awake and can only "speak" on the edge of the twilight zone. A fractional autism. A missing marble. A full deck a few cards are turned down in the discard pile. The lights are on but a couple of bulbs are on daylight sensors. The elevator hits all the floors but there's a short in a few buttons. Some of my friends only come out at night. One of my cylinders sticks in the daytime. Who needs 4 working spark plugs when 3 gets better gas mileage? lol ;D  |
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