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Post by Shadow on Jan 28, 2006 7:56:58 GMT -5
China Tech NewsBy Perry Wu Google (GOOG) seems to think that it can not rule the world without having a firm grip over China's Internet population. And that probably won't happen any time soon. Google's inability to gain a foothold in China is not related to the search engine market being a poor sector. Piper analyst Safa Rashtchy has been correct for many years in placing his money on the booming search engine market and everyone knows that search engines are "in", right? Internet search engine markets are hot! Google's inability to succeed in China instead resides in it not being a Chinese company. Even with the hype surrounding Google's hire of the former Microsoft (MSFT) executive, Dr. Kai-Fu Lee, and other top grabs from Chinese companies like 1pai, Google's fundamental stumbling block in China comes from its failure to adapt to being a true Chinese Internet company. Yahoo (YHOO) tried many times to adapt. As far back as 1998 (or Web 0.98 Beta) when its then-VP, Heather Killen, made high-profile visits to China, the Western Internet company tried to sit at the Chinese banquet table. But Yahoo finally gave up last year when it bought a billion dollar stake in China's Alibaba.com and then gave Alibaba the rights to run Yahoo! China. There was not even a whimper from the company as its Chinese portal was torn down and replaced with a simple search engine. Sohu (SOHU), Sina (SINA), and Netease (NTES) had finally beaten the foreign interloper. Lycos tried too. It bought firms like Myrice.com. Netscape tried, via AOL. MSN has also been bobbling along with a few victories here and a few setbacks there--nothing much to be proud of.
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Post by Doc on Jan 28, 2006 18:37:41 GMT -5
China Tech NewsBy Perry Wu Google (GOOG) seems to think that it can not rule the world without having a firm grip over China's Internet population. And that probably won't happen any time soon. Google's inability to gain a foothold in China is not related to the search engine market being a poor sector. Piper analyst Safa Rashtchy has been correct for many years in placing his money on the booming search engine market and everyone knows that search engines are "in", right? Internet search engine markets are hot! Google's inability to succeed in China instead resides in it not being a Chinese company. Even with the hype surrounding Google's hire of the former Microsoft (MSFT) executive, Dr. Kai-Fu Lee, and other top grabs from Chinese companies like 1pai, Google's fundamental stumbling block in China comes from its failure to adapt to being a true Chinese Internet company. Yahoo (YHOO) tried many times to adapt. As far back as 1998 (or Web 0.98 Beta) when its then-VP, Heather Killen, made high-profile visits to China, the Western Internet company tried to sit at the Chinese banquet table. But Yahoo finally gave up last year when it bought a billion dollar stake in China's Alibaba.com and then gave Alibaba the rights to run Yahoo! China. There was not even a whimper from the company as its Chinese portal was torn down and replaced with a simple search engine. Sohu (SOHU), Sina (SINA), and Netease (NTES) had finally beaten the foreign interloper. Lycos tried too. It bought firms like Myrice.com. Netscape tried, via AOL. MSN has also been bobbling along with a few victories here and a few setbacks there--nothing much to be proud of. Forgive this, I dont mean to be PC-insensitive, but, really, at least one issue is, the Chinese people may not like it too much cause they can't pronounce it. It's the "L" situation. "Goo-gawrre." They need a Mandarin friendly name to substitute. Really. You think I am being sly but I am not. Look at it this way---would American's "go bonkers" over a Chinese search engine named "Zhiou Xing Kwang Tshou?" Think about it. Think how millions of, for example, people in Mississippi or Kentucky would struggle with that one. "Zoo-hee-oo Ex-'ing Kuh-wang Ta-shouh." or, the "Z.X.K.T" for short. Which would soon be the "ZX." "Say, we're usin' the ZX, how 'bout ch'all?" Maybe they could call it the "Quu-Qa." Any Mandarin experts on board? You see my reservation? |
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Post by Shadow on Jan 28, 2006 21:20:17 GMT -5
Being from Mississippi I can attest to this...  However, Let's not forget those poor souls in Alabama, Arkansas and Tin-uh-see.... |
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Post by Doc on Jan 29, 2006 0:01:51 GMT -5
Being from Mississippi I can attest to this... However, Let's not forget those poor souls in Alabama, Arkansas and Tin-uh-see.... lol AND, of course, in southern lingo, JOW-juh. Which would be Zhiou Zhuh and very simple for the Chinese to pronounce. How ironic. I probably have that all wrong. maybe it would be Xioxiou or Riorio or Qioqiu-----it's rather complex: www.sinosplice.com/lang/pronunciation/02/I dont think I can make the proper distinctions in it.......... |
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Post by Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) on Jan 30, 2006 23:17:29 GMT -5
China Tech NewsBy Perry Wu Google (GOOG) seems to think that it can not rule the world without having a firm grip over China's Internet population. And that probably won't happen any time soon. Google's inability to gain a foothold in China is not related to the search engine market being a poor sector. Piper analyst Safa Rashtchy has been correct for many years in placing his money on the booming search engine market and everyone knows that search engines are "in", right? Internet search engine markets are hot! Google's inability to succeed in China instead resides in it not being a Chinese company. Even with the hype surrounding Google's hire of the former Microsoft (MSFT) executive, Dr. Kai-Fu Lee, and other top grabs from Chinese companies like 1pai, Google's fundamental stumbling block in China comes from its failure to adapt to being a true Chinese Internet company. Yahoo (YHOO) tried many times to adapt. As far back as 1998 (or Web 0.98 Beta) when its then-VP, Heather Killen, made high-profile visits to China, the Western Internet company tried to sit at the Chinese banquet table. But Yahoo finally gave up last year when it bought a billion dollar stake in China's Alibaba.com and then gave Alibaba the rights to run Yahoo! China. There was not even a whimper from the company as its Chinese portal was torn down and replaced with a simple search engine. Sohu (SOHU), Sina (SINA), and Netease (NTES) had finally beaten the foreign interloper. Lycos tried too. It bought firms like Myrice.com. Netscape tried, via AOL. MSN has also been bobbling along with a few victories here and a few setbacks there--nothing much to be proud of. Forgive this, I dont mean to be PC-insensitive, but, really, at least one issue is, the Chinese people may not like it too much cause they can't pronounce it. It's the "L" situation. "Goo-gawrre." They need a Mandarin friendly name to substitute. Really. You think I am being sly but I am not. Look at it this way---would American's "go bonkers" over a Chinese search engine named "Zhiou Xing Kwang Tshou?" Think about it. Think how millions of, for example, people in Mississippi or Kentucky would struggle with that one. "Zoo-hee-oo Ex-'ing Kuh-wang Ta-shouh." or, the "Z.X.K.T" for short. Which would soon be the "ZX." "Say, we're usin' the ZX, how 'bout ch'all?" Maybe they could call it the "Quu-Qa." Any Mandarin experts on board? You see my reservation? They (Google) could change their name to "Goo Goo, Gaahh-Gaaah". Everybody on the face of the planet understands "cutesy" baby talk, right?!  Just a thought.. Goo-Goo, Ga-Ga-Google - Goober...Goo- Goo..Ga-Goob, Gaahhh -Gahhhlpth...  |
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Post by Shadow on Jan 31, 2006 0:07:05 GMT -5
Why do I have this sudden urge to go itchy kitchy coo... ?  |
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Post by Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) on Jan 31, 2006 0:48:43 GMT -5
Why do I have this sudden urge to go itchy kitchy coo... ? Goo Goo, Gaaah Gaaalppth.. *** Agrees In Baby Talk *** |
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Post by Doc on Jan 31, 2006 1:34:01 GMT -5
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Post by Miss Vaggie (Aka ET Girl) on Jan 31, 2006 1:36:46 GMT -5
Credit cards accepted? So we have to pay up?!  Boo Boo, Ba, Boo hoo, ga joob.. !  |
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Post by beatlies on Feb 2, 2006 20:33:49 GMT -5
China Tech NewsBy Perry Wu Google (GOOG) seems to think that it can not rule the world without having a firm grip over China's Internet population. And that probably won't happen any time soon. Google's inability to gain a foothold in China is not related to the search engine market being a poor sector. Piper analyst Safa Rashtchy has been correct for many years in placing his money on the booming search engine market and everyone knows that search engines are "in", right? Internet search engine markets are hot! Google's inability to succeed in China instead resides in it not being a Chinese company. Even with the hype surrounding Google's hire of the former Microsoft (MSFT) executive, Dr. Kai-Fu Lee, and other top grabs from Chinese companies like 1pai, Google's fundamental stumbling block in China comes from its failure to adapt to being a true Chinese Internet company. Yahoo (YHOO) tried many times to adapt. As far back as 1998 (or Web 0.98 Beta) when its then-VP, Heather Killen, made high-profile visits to China, the Western Internet company tried to sit at the Chinese banquet table. But Yahoo finally gave up last year when it bought a billion dollar stake in China's Alibaba.com and then gave Alibaba the rights to run Yahoo! China. There was not even a whimper from the company as its Chinese portal was torn down and replaced with a simple search engine. Sohu (SOHU), Sina (SINA), and Netease (NTES) had finally beaten the foreign interloper. Lycos tried too. It bought firms like Myrice.com. Netscape tried, via AOL. MSN has also been bobbling along with a few victories here and a few setbacks there--nothing much to be proud of. Forgive this, I dont mean to be PC-insensitive, but, really, at least one issue is, the Chinese people may not like it too much cause they can't pronounce it. It's the "L" situation. "Goo-gawrre." They need a Mandarin friendly name to substitute. Really. You think I am being sly but I am not. Look at it this way---would American's "go bonkers" over a Chinese search engine named "Zhiou Xing Kwang Tshou?" Think about it. Think how millions of, for example, people in Mississippi or Kentucky would struggle with that one. "Zoo-hee-oo Ex-'ing Kuh-wang Ta-shouh." or, the "Z.X.K.T" for short. Which would soon be the "ZX." "Say, we're usin' the ZX, how 'bout ch'all?" Maybe they could call it the "Quu-Qa." Any Mandarin experts on board? You see my reservation? It's the Japanese who have a problem pronouncing "L" not the Chinese. |
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Post by Doc on Feb 3, 2006 1:17:39 GMT -5
Yes, you're right. If I had just remembered "Ling-Ling" the Panda bear, I would have not tripped into that miscall.
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