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Post by 8749 on May 22, 2009 19:04:35 GMT -5
I listened to Here, There, and Everywhere as a kid, and because the album said the lead singer was Paul, I accepted it. I listened to it on a cd with earphones a couple of months ago, and the lead singer is John. His voice is extremely emotional, and the background singing (I can recognize George) is almost sorrowful. I always felt there was something strange about that song, and it could very well be a farewell to Paul. I was going to set this up as a poll. Other opinions?
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Post by JS2 on May 23, 2009 9:40:36 GMT -5
My opinion is that you need your ears syringing. I was listening to it today, If that's John then "In My Life" must be Susan Boyle or something. (Boyle reference: I win)
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Post by JS2 on May 23, 2009 9:42:58 GMT -5
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Post by Jude on May 23, 2009 10:48:04 GMT -5
I listened to Here, There, and Everywhere as a kid, and because the album said the lead singer was Paul, I accepted it. I listened to it on a cd with earphones a couple of months ago, and the lead singer is John. His voice is extremely emotional, and the background singing (I can recognize George) is almost sorrowful. I always felt there was something strange about that song, and it could very well be a farewell to Paul. I was going to set this up as a poll. Other opinions? You, sir, are certifiably insane. You seemed a bit daft before with whole gypsie thing, but now? Thank you Thank you for bringing this forum to an all-new low. |
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Post by B on May 23, 2009 12:48:12 GMT -5
Oh my!
Interesting video. A gentle ballad accompanied by frantic images.
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Post by peacec on May 24, 2009 21:56:55 GMT -5
I listened to Here, There, and Everywhere as a kid, and because the album said the lead singer was Paul, I accepted it. I listened to it on a cd with earphones a couple of months ago, and the lead singer is John. His voice is extremely emotional, and the background singing (I can recognize George) is almost sorrowful. I always felt there was something strange about that song, and it could very well be a farewell to Paul. I was going to set this up as a poll. Other opinions? hell yeah it's john. i always knew it was. i never checked to see who sang it, i never thought otherwise.... |
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Post by ramone on May 24, 2009 23:37:48 GMT -5
The vocals are double tracked - and I don't think they're flanged.
I use to think it was Paul with John beside him.
But listening again, I think it's Paul layered over Paul.
Basic double track.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on May 25, 2009 12:46:05 GMT -5
The vocals are double tracked - and I don't think they're flanged. I use to think it was Paul with John beside him. But listening again, I think it's Paul layered over Paul. Basic double track. I'm pretty sure that the Here, There, and Everywhere vocal used varispeed. I'm 98% certain that it's JPM, double tracked and pitched up, but if it's anyone but JPM, I'd believe it was George before John... |
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Post by 8749 on May 26, 2009 16:29:44 GMT -5
Jude, Jude, that's MAM to you. Faul is a Gypsy, and fact-upon-fact, I'll prove it. I understand double-tracking and it's possible it's a John-Paul track, but listen to H, T & E lyrics: "Watching her eyes/ And hoping I'm always there" with John on REAL LOVE: "Only to be alone/ Only to be alone." I had only heard The Beatles version of REAL LOVE until today and the watery-sounding John lead sounds like both H,T, & E, AND like John's replacement . I listened to the original take of REAL LOVE today---www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuEOKK8d43c---and it's undoubtedly John and he CAN hit the high notes.
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Post by Jude on May 26, 2009 21:48:54 GMT -5
Jude, Jude, that's MAM to you. Faul is a Gypsy, and fact-upon-fact, I'll prove it. I understand double-tracking and it's possible it's a John-Paul track, but listen to H, T & E lyrics: "Watching her eyes/ And hoping I'm always there" with John on REAL LOVE: "Only to be alone/ Only to be alone." I had only heard The Beatles version of REAL LOVE until today and the watery-sounding John lead sounds like both H,T, & E, AND like John's replacement . I listened to the original take of REAL LOVE today---www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuEOKK8d43c---and it's undoubtedly John and he CAN hit the high notes. What on earth is a mam? Are you trying to say you're a woman, MA'AM? So you say you'll prove fact upon fact that the so-called "Faul" is a gypsy. That's the funniest thing I've heard all day---almost. What's funnier is your insinuation that the vocalist of Here, There, and Everywhere sounds anything like the vocalist of Real Love. Make no mistake, there is and has only been one John Lennon! You have seriously deluded yourself if you think for one minute that person who sang songs such as Real Love and Starting Over was anyone but the man born John Winston Lennon. Next you'll be talking about how George's replacement took over for him in the mid 70's, because from there on his voice sounded different and whatnot. But back to the gypsy issue. The more you talk about Paul being a gypsy the more obvious it is that you have no idea how Gypsies look or speak. The one you call Faul has consistently spoken in a distinct Liverpudlian accent since 1966, and it's obvious to everyone but you that he is genuinely native to Britain. And besides that, other than the gypsy reference in Admiral Halsey you really have nothing to lean on here, not a single concrete clue that suggest this man is a gypsy. If you want to hear about his origins, why not hear it from the man himself?
Well, I was found in the transit lounge
of a dirty airport town
What was I doing on the road to ruin
Well my mama laid me down
My mama laid me down
Around my hand was a plastic band
With a picture of my face
I was crying, left to die
in this godforsaken place
This godforsaken place
Only Mama knows
what she laid me down
in this godforsaken town
She was running too
What she was running from
I always wondered
I never knew
Only Mama knows
Only Mama knows
I'm passing through
I'm on my way
On the road, no ETA
I'm passing through
No fixed abode
And that is why....
I need to try
To hold on
I've got to hold on
Was it planned as a one night stand
or did she live in disgrace
Well, I never
will I ever
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Post by 8749 on May 27, 2009 15:57:53 GMT -5
It would be leading people off in the wrong direction to suggest that Faul is an orphan because in the Barry Miles' book he said his mother left home when he was 14, and that wasn't a euphemism for dying. Paul also wasn't an orphan. There is no "Gypsy look and Gypsy talk" because Romanies span across Europe and have emigrated to North America, and, if you believe some theories, began as a culture in India. I'll keep posting the links between Faul's Gypsy background and how he worked it into the Beatles' and post-Beatles' music. And when I find out who he is, I'll post that, too.
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Post by B on May 27, 2009 17:06:31 GMT -5
Be a gypsy; get around
Lift your feet up off the ground
Live a little; get around.
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Post by Jude on May 27, 2009 20:45:45 GMT -5
Be a gypsy; get around Lift your feet up off the ground Live a little; get around. That's it, though. That lyric is the single connection between Sir Paul and gypsies. I'm afraid anything else 8749 posts on the matter will be useless conjecture. |
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Post by 8749 on May 28, 2009 16:14:07 GMT -5
After reading the "Re: O-Bloody O Blood die!" thread, I realize that Jude likes to argue for the hell of it. I won't argue. BTW, Jude asked, "What on earth is a mam?" MAM according to Webster's Unabridged Third New International Dictionary is a variant of MA'AM.
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Post by Jude on May 29, 2009 8:34:35 GMT -5
After reading the "Re: O-Bloody O Blood die!" thread, I realize that Jude likes to argue for the hell of it. I won't argue. BTW, Jude asked, "What on earth is a mam?" MAM according to Webster's Unabridged Third New International Dictionary is a variant of MA'AM. No if I argued for fun I'd try to take on someone who can at least argue at level (it doesn't take much---only common sense). If you look around you'll notice that I only argue with mindnumbingly thick people who spread inane conspiracy theories and who outright preach them as if they were gospel. And I do that because I miss the days of looking for glow-in-the-dark images on Pepper records and discussing song clues and am sick to unholy death of each and every loony-of-the-week that constitutes most of this forum's new membership. But so that there will be no hard feelings, two gifts for your ego:   |
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Post by plastic paul on May 29, 2009 9:12:50 GMT -5
And I do that because I miss the days of looking for glow-in-the-dark images on Pepper records and discussing song clues. Ah..... Memories. |
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Post by 8749 on May 29, 2009 13:58:07 GMT -5
Michael Jackson is a poster boy for how plastic surgery can radically alter a facial appearance. And since they were looking for someone closer to Paul's appearance in the first place (and toyed with up to 6 replacements before the current one), it was a quicker and easier job with Sir Paul. And Jude: go away; I passed adolescence >40 years ago.
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Post by FP on Jun 7, 2009 23:54:55 GMT -5
Michael Jackson is a poster boy for how plastic surgery can radically alter a facial appearance. ...And how it looks completely unnatural. Nothing about "Faul's" face show the tightness or lack of express you see with people who have had major plastic surgery. |
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Post by Doc on Jun 8, 2009 3:13:25 GMT -5
Michael Jackson is a poster boy for how plastic surgery can radically alter a facial appearance. ...And how it looks completely unnatural. Nothing about "Faul's" face show the tightness or lack of express you see with people who have had major plastic surgery. Generally true. I have had a number of friends go under the knife for *ahem* "a procedure" or two just too *ahem* freshen up a bit. In my recall, they, well, number one they tend to "hide out" or go on a "rest sabbatical" for 2 or 3 weeks and then return looking so much better. Even after a month or longer the face and cheeks may look "a little taut and unyielding" and frankly one friend of mine couldn't make most facial expressions for a time, in fact having in one local television broadcast to wear glasses (which he does not wear) and asked the camera people to "avoid close-ups and stick to long and medium shots" and the light was softened, etc., to accommodate his, frankly, well, frozen puppet face appearance. In time his visage loosened up and he looked amazing for "a year or two", then the façade began to loosen and nowadays is sagging and sorry to say he needs another couple of turns on the crank. (I need a major tug myself but have decided to go au naturel and let people get used to the gradual prune up that we all face. Though there are moments when I fancy the idea of a big overhaul; you know, leave town, loose the weight, tighten the face, get a new wardrobe and return looking fabulous and make everyone jealous, but then I think, no, that's not nice to do. I want to look age appropriate with jowls and the whole thing no matter how much I cringe every time I pass a mirror or see a recent photo in honest lighting. That's how fair and good I am to my friend; I want to look the broken down wreck to which I have attained. To do any less would be to flaunt artificial looks in the face of others; others who have endured my diatribes and madness all these years, WHY should they be submitted to a display of vanity from me now? But I digress. There are a couple of early images of William that imply the possibility of recent, at that time, (say, 2 months ago in 1966) minor to medium plastic surgery from late 66, early 67. His face, while looking in very good shape, appears slightly "tight" and in heavy, oil based make-up to smooth over that effect. I will find the two I think I remember. Frankly I would wear it to if.... of well, why lie. I use MAC make-up on occasion when I have to look a little better on stage and I had, say, a long week and I might be "lookin' a little rough." But never very much, not very much at all. I mean, well, I do use a big fat brush and pretty much ladle it on, and pull the straps, and stretch the wig on last, with the cotton in the cheeks and sometimes a little lip gloss without color, or well, a light light color nothing too red of course, and not much rouge, I mean, just enough, not like "elf make-up" but enough to take away a decade or two, I mean, I am 38 years old now, and have to, OK 39 but I need to--40? Who said I was 40? That was a mistake. Somebody just made that up I didn't say that. My birthday? Oh, I was born in Nineteen six---I mean seventy tw--fi---nine. Nineteen seventy-nine yes that's right. What? I said I saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan? Uhm...... well I did. Sort of. Well, no I did. Well it was some kind of a time-travel-extra dimensional thing, I guess. Uhm. Anybody got any mascara? And a small mirror? And Dr. Hartley's number? Yes, THE Dr. Hartley. He can fix ANYTHING. I just need better insurance..... or medicaid. I need the surgery. I need it NOW. I am going to book it for mid-August. Look at these chins!!!! What is this nostril doing? It's HIGHER than the other one! And this cheek? Why are my eye lids down over my eyes---- WHEN THEY'RE OPEN? HUH? WHY? WHY? Its' not fair. It is not. This isn't the face I had when I got here. Everything is drooping down, falling, sagging. Even my NOSE TIP!!! I have rhinoid PTOSIS! Droopy nose tip! ARGH! And lately, with my eyes all crowded around with so much extra tissue, they look somehow smaller, beadier, closer together. OMG!! NO!!!! I HAVE POOR EYE DISTANCE!!!!!!!! Help me Sunking, help me now! I need a brilliant movie make-up man like Freddie Williamson to get me thru the summer..... |
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Post by Doc on Jun 8, 2009 3:18:44 GMT -5
After reading the "Re: O-Bloody O Blood die!" thread, I realize that Jude likes to argue for the hell of it. I won't argue. BTW, Jude asked, "What on earth is a mam?" MAM according to Webster's Unabridged Third New International Dictionary is a variant of MA'AM. No if I argued for fun I'd try to take on someone who can at least argue at level (it doesn't take much---only common sense). If you look around you'll notice that I only argue with mindnumbingly thick people who spread inane conspiracy theories and who outright preach them as if they were gospel. And I do that because I miss the days of looking for glow-in-the-dark images on Pepper records and discussing song clues and am sick to unholy death of each and every loony-of-the-week that constitutes most of this forum's new membership. But so that there will be no hard feelings, two gifts for your ego:  You are so right. I put in "Gypsy", and "Bill" and I got this photo called, "GypsyBill". No question about it. This proves it. Bill IS not "a" GYPSY--- BILL IS GYPSY!!!!! Part Gypsy Rose Lee, and part Momma Rose....... |
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Post by Doc on Jun 8, 2009 3:22:20 GMT -5
 Sung by Momma Rose. [Speaking] Finished? We're just beginning and there's no one to stop us this time!
I had a dream, a dream about you, baby.
It's gonna come true, baby.
They think that we're through, but baby,
You'll be swell! You'll be great!
Gonna have the whole world on the plate!
Starting here, starting now,
honey, everything's coming up roses!
Clear the decks! Clear the tracks!
You've got nothing to do but relax.
Blow a kiss. Take a bow.
Honey, everything's coming up roses!
Now's your inning. Stand the world on it's ear!
Set it spinning! That'll be just the beginning!
Curtain up! Light the lights!
You got nothing to hit but the heights!
You'll be swell. You'll be great.
I can tell. Just you wait.
That lucky star I talk about is due!
Honey, everything's coming up roses for me and for you!
You can do it, all you need is a hand.
We can do it, Mama is gonna see to it!
Curtain up! Light the lights!
We got nothing to hit but the heights!
I can tell, wait and see.
There's the bell! Follow me!
And nothing's gonna stop us 'til we're through!
Honey, everything's coming up roses and daffodils!
Everything's coming up sunshine and Santa Claus!
Everything's gonna be bright lights and lollipops!
Everything's coming up roses for me and for you! |
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Post by Doc on Jun 8, 2009 4:27:56 GMT -5
But, Here, There, and Everywhere, everyone gets older.  |
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